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On April 23 2010 04:00 Floophead_III wrote:
It is legit, I didn't see forum post at first so hence why I didn't believe it.
These balance changes are mostly retarded though. The only one that really was needed was immortal build time.
They still seem to be ignoring the fact that zerg is an abomination, marauders are still the best unit in the game, and zerg is spam roach and win unless there's marauders on the field.
Hopefully they'll go back to hardcore balance in patch 10. Galaxy and the bnet changes definitely make the patch still worthwhile.
I agree the immortal change was the main good change, but marauder/roaches still are going to reign supreme which is sort of disappointing.
The immortal change and concussive change though do make mech more viable and slightly easier to transition into  i know you ghostmech a lot too floop, so you prob like this 
dunno about Zerg getting buffs lmao, they are still pretty much the strongest, though mech T is even with them, I am guessing that is why they buffed the infestor, to counteract thors even more in zvt.
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On April 23 2010 04:01 mgl0x9 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2010 03:57 iNty.sCream wrote:
leg speed for zealots costs still 200/200, so what was the problem with marauder concussion shells at patch 8? Protoss are meant to be a more expensive race *see sc1*
They are also supposed to have the most powerful units, How is that true when the Marauder can 1v1 Zealots, Stalkers and Sentries? I hate how the immortal is a necessity in every MU.
Also, still need to address a lot of issues.
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On April 23 2010 04:02 fatduck wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2010 04:01 mgl0x9 wrote:On April 23 2010 03:57 iNty.sCream wrote:
leg speed for zealots costs still 200/200, so what was the problem with marauder concussion shells at patch 8? Protoss are meant to be a more expensive race *see sc1* Yea they're also supposed to have more powerful units, I think someone forgot to bring that one over from BW :[]
Remember the Dustin Browder interview everyone. They created cool units, without thinking of how they fit into the general feel. While they obviously thought of it a little bit (Viking fits great with Terran) overall they really don't care that much about uniqueness so long as no 2 races have the same unit.
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On April 23 2010 04:02 Lz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2010 04:00 avilo wrote:excellent patch just for the immortal change. Now we'll see how D+ iccup players do without pure build order immortal wins they may actually have to start pressing F to abuse forcefields again! Maybe even a blink in there? rofl! Protoss is still as strong as ever, what are some people here smoking. sad but true ^^
lol yup, they got it all
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On April 23 2010 04:02 Occas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2010 04:00 Floophead_III wrote:...marauders are still the best unit in the game... Yeah, they kick the crap out of my mutas, lol :p
You won't have any mutas.
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mxl0g9, that still means that zealots arent worth shit vs terran till you got speed, wich comes more in mid, mid-late
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anyone able to download the patch yet?
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Forcefild needs a nerf... cuz the whole spamming forcefield.. and having enough enrgy to cast a forcefield right when it spawns is way no cool...
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god still can't get over the marauder buff. So many terran units could use a buff like the Hellion or Siege tank, but they decide to take the most OP unit in the game and rebuff it. ROFL
then they throw a drastic immortal nerf, but don't buff anything that the protoss needs
wtf
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This is such a terrible patch.
Buffing Marauders when they were already extremely strong in all MU's?? Why buff Marauders and nerf Immortals (pretty substantial nerf, even) when Immortals are the only good counter against them in the early-mid game? Also buffing neural parasite will nullify robotics play in the mid-game.
Also why remove LT and Metalopolis from the 2v2 pool? They were 10000x better than Twilight Fortress, which is perhaps the worst map ever designed.
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WHY why why why is twilight still there... oh well 4 more maps for a net gain of 2 should mean twilight comes up less at least...
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I just want a nerf on the marauder and a buff on everything else. I hate how the marauder is the core unit for any T matchup.
edit: But the interface changes seem really neat, looking forward to being able to download the patch.
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Spine Crawler
Attack period decreased from 1.6 to 1.85.
What?!
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Marauder un-nerf is silly, but HOOOOOOO boy did they make Infestors sexy again :D
Mass roaches + neural parasite Immortals = win?
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On April 23 2010 04:03 Lollersauce wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2010 04:02 Occas wrote:On April 23 2010 04:00 Floophead_III wrote:...marauders are still the best unit in the game... Yeah, they kick the crap out of my mutas, lol :p By the time mutas kill the number of marauders amassed while you were getting those mutas, you have a good chance of being dead already.
I was just making a general joke as obviously Marauders aren't AA, that's all. Everyone's being all intense so I was just trying to lighten the mood a little...
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On April 23 2010 03:50 BDF92 wrote:
can anyone not open sc2? whenever I open it it just shows a small rectangle box on my screen with sc2 that stays there until i terminate the process
I'm getting this too. Whenever I click on the box, it turns all white and goes unresponsive. If you leave it running it will start eventually, but apparently the battle.net is down anyway, so it doesn't matter. That box thing is weird though, seeing as how SC2 hasn't actually updated yet, and I didn't get it before.
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On April 23 2010 04:03 Crisium wrote:
Remember the Dustin Browder interview everyone. They created cool units, without thinking of how they fit into the general feel.
Except the new zerg units aren't that cool to begin with...
Compared to the mechanics of those we lost, anyway.
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So Patch 9.... Wooo Map Editor! I heard that UMS can definitely improve the core gameplay and the general balance of the units.... Lol not. A UMS cannot help that Zerg in general is bland and boring as fuck. Buffing the Infestor doesn't make them interesting. Buffing infested terran's damage from 5 to 8 doesn't do anything since the CORE GAMEPLAY still needs work..
Does UMS affect that TvP currently is a joke? Does buffing marauders INCREASE unit diversity in TvP and actually making it worth to make something that isnt a marauder and then nerfing immortals build time? But again i heard that UMS helps TvP and increases the viabillity of other units....
Does UMS affect that NO ONE enjoys the hard counter system at all? Does anyone enjoy Marauders, Immortals, or Roaches and there effect on the game?
Blizzard a map editor is great and all, but please fix the core gameplay FIRST and then add all the extras. There is a reason its a beta....
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Whoever designed Twilight Fortress was stoned off his ass.
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blah, i don't agree with the immortal nerf , and i wish they add chat channels/private channels.
good thing i play random, I'd definitely be very annoyed as protoss player. I dunno where blizzard got their data to justify the changes. They should look at data from plat/gold division only.
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