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Weedman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States65 Posts
April 17 2010 22:00 GMT
#721
At the parties I go to everyone gets beer, and the new guy is welcomed!
Smoke it!
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
April 17 2010 22:01 GMT
#722
I feel kind of embarrassed that I understand baller's 1 shot Jersey Shore reference... lol
DrSmoke
Profile Joined April 2010
United States175 Posts
April 17 2010 22:02 GMT
#723
Jersey shore may be the one thing more disgusting than beer.
Cheree
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada123 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:04:23
April 17 2010 22:03 GMT
#724
On April 18 2010 06:53 baller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 18 2010 06:45 Cheree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.


It's stupid to let everyone get to nominate themselves in the first place, it's even stupider to say no one gets the beer if no one retracts their nomination. While ronnie and pauly helped with the organization of the party, it doesn't mean mike isn't deserving from his own perspective. He may have had a full weekend of acting like Mother Theresa, feeding the homeless and buying a donkey the whole village can fuck. So in his own right, he thinks he deserves a break and is deserving of a beer.


mike could be mother theresa. or he could be a douche that steals ur girlfriend when u go to the bathroom at a club. my point is ronnie and pauly have no idea about this outsider mike guy. and when u join a community ur first posts r the first impression u leave for every1 else. u have 1 shot to make a first impression on ronnie and pauly. 1 shot. especially on ronnie. and new users like mike r using their 1st posts to spam for a beer that they kno they probably won't get.

thats why its understandable ronnie and pauly hate mike. new posters shouldn't complain about the situation they create for themselves.

Ronnie and Pauly could listen to Mike's story and get to know him. If Mike's convincing, then he deserves a shot. Also, Mike isn't necessarily new, he could be someone frequenting these parties for a long time but his presence had slipped everyone's mind. He may have even helped with the preperation a lot more than Ronnie and Pauly, but he just needed to remind people of it. BTW, it's not only Mike having a first impression on Ronnie and Pauly, it also works the other way around. The impression of the community on Mike depends on how the community reacts to his simple request of a beer. People should just be saying, "Hah nice try Mike, but sorry, we're giving it to Ronnie and Pauly cause we know them and the effort they've put in. As for you, better luck next time" Instead, many in the TL community have opted to go for the public humiliation route that doesn't help anything at all. People not stepping down aren't the ones ruining everyone's chance at the beer, it's the organizers who are ruining it with their poor design of a beer giving out process that doesn't match with their intention of giving the beer to the most deserving in the party,
*wants beta*
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
April 17 2010 22:03 GMT
#725
The competetion SAID : you can nominate yourself if you think you deserve it.

It did not define the word 'deserve', so people came and posted explanations why they are deserving. Whats the big deal?
Although at the end of original competition it was stated that nominees will be chosen, it got transformed into hate fest, so most people got chance to opt out or i stay, BUT WHY THE HATE? everybody did that LITTERALLY according to the rules.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:06:08
April 17 2010 22:04 GMT
#726
Okay, it's good that instead of arguing about keys/TL/newbs we're now arguing about beer/party/mike. Makin' some progress! Haha seriously though it's pretty funny that the last two pages have been repeated arguments only using the analogy this time around
IndecisivePenguin
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States771 Posts
April 17 2010 22:05 GMT
#727
On April 18 2010 07:03 Cheree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:53 baller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 18 2010 06:45 Cheree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.


It's stupid to let everyone get to nominate themselves in the first place, it's even stupider to say no one gets the beer if no one retracts their nomination. While ronnie and pauly helped with the organization of the party, it doesn't mean mike isn't deserving from his own perspective. He may have had a full weekend of acting like Mother Theresa, feeding the homeless and buying a donkey the whole village can fuck. So in his own right, he thinks he deserves a break and is deserving of a beer.


mike could be mother theresa. or he could be a douche that steals ur girlfriend when u go to the bathroom at a club. my point is ronnie and pauly have no idea about this outsider mike guy. and when u join a community ur first posts r the first impression u leave for every1 else. u have 1 shot to make a first impression on ronnie and pauly. 1 shot. especially on ronnie. and new users like mike r using their 1st posts to spam for a beer that they kno they probably won't get.

thats why its understandable ronnie and pauly hate mike. new posters shouldn't complain about the situation they create for themselves.

Ronnie and Pauly could listen to Mike's story and get to know him. If Mike's convincing, then he deserves a shot. Also, Mike isn't necessarily new, he could be someone frequenting these parties for a long time but his presence had slipped everyone's mind. He may have even helped with the preperation a lot more than Ronnie and Pauly, but he just needed to remind people of it. BTW, it's not only Mike having a first impression on Ronnie and Pauly, it also works the other way around. The impression of the community on Mike depends on how the community reacts to his simple request of a beer. People should just be saying, "Hah nice try Mike, but sorry, we're giving it to Ronnie and Pauly cause we know them and the effort they've put in. As for you, better luck next time" Instead, many in the TL community have opted to go for the public humiliation route that doesn't help anything at all. People not stepping down aren't the ones ruining everyone's chance at the beer, it's the organizers who are ruining it with their poor design of a beer giving out process that doesn't match with their intention of giving the beer to the most deserving in the party,


In the end, it's all just kinda messed up everywhere, isn't it?
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
April 17 2010 22:06 GMT
#728
On April 18 2010 06:59 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:58 baller wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:54 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.

if you're assuming that many starcraft players are not knowledgeable concerning "parties," how does using a party as an analogy help "every1 understand better?"

the "party" is the internet forum and "ronnie and pauly" are old teamliquid users and "mike" is a new teamliquid user and the "beer" at the party is teamliquid's beta keys

I realize how the analogy works, I'm suggesting that "for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other." was completely unnecessary.

ok ill make another analogy if u dont think the party one is appropriate for a gaming forum

lets say u used to be a bartender. but now u work as a salesman for ur boss, who provides u with a job and a place to live, right next to where u work. but on the 1st day of work, u start demanding things like a day off. how is ur boss going to react? hes going to think ur undeserving. it doesnt matter that u did great things at ur old job. when u come to somewhere new u need to respect the people who have been there longer.

in this analogy (hopefully its clearer) the "job" is the internet forums team liquid, the "boss" is the older users / moderators, "u" is the new posters, and the "day off" is a beta key. hopefully this one is easier to understand than the party one.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
April 17 2010 22:06 GMT
#729
On April 18 2010 07:03 NightOfTheDead wrote:
The competetion SAID : you can nominate yourself if you think you deserve it.

It did not define the word 'deserve', so people came and posted explanations why they are deserving. Whats the big deal?
Although at the end of original competition it was stated that nominees will be chosen, it got transformed into hate fest, so most people got chance to opt out or i stay, BUT WHY THE HATE? everybody did that LITTERALLY according to the rules.


Where does it say we can't hate on people that nominate themselves?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
April 17 2010 22:07 GMT
#730
On April 18 2010 07:00 Weedman wrote:
At the parties I go to everyone gets beer, and the new guy is welcomed!


At the parties I go to everyone gets an equal share of beer and has a good time.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
TranslatorBaa!
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
April 17 2010 22:07 GMT
#731
On April 18 2010 07:06 OreoBoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:03 NightOfTheDead wrote:
The competetion SAID : you can nominate yourself if you think you deserve it.

It did not define the word 'deserve', so people came and posted explanations why they are deserving. Whats the big deal?
Although at the end of original competition it was stated that nominees will be chosen, it got transformed into hate fest, so most people got chance to opt out or i stay, BUT WHY THE HATE? everybody did that LITTERALLY according to the rules.


Where does it say we can't hate on people that nominate themselves?


Where does it say that you can't? the question was why.
thezergk
Profile Joined October 2009
United States492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:09:32
April 17 2010 22:09 GMT
#732
This forum is getting exciting. Hot_Bid's evil plan is working!
Nada vs. TLO Results: "Nada 1 TLO 1 Bnet 2 KESPA 1"
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 17 2010 22:11 GMT
#733
On April 18 2010 07:06 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:59 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:58 baller wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:54 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.

if you're assuming that many starcraft players are not knowledgeable concerning "parties," how does using a party as an analogy help "every1 understand better?"

the "party" is the internet forum and "ronnie and pauly" are old teamliquid users and "mike" is a new teamliquid user and the "beer" at the party is teamliquid's beta keys

I realize how the analogy works, I'm suggesting that "for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other." was completely unnecessary.

ok ill make another analogy if u dont think the party one is appropriate for a gaming forum

lets say u used to be a bartender. but now u work as a salesman for ur boss, who provides u with a job and a place to live, right next to where u work. but on the 1st day of work, u start demanding things like a day off. how is ur boss going to react? hes going to think ur undeserving. it doesnt matter that u did great things at ur old job. when u come to somewhere new u need to respect the people who have been there longer.

in this analogy (hopefully its clearer) the "job" is the internet forums team liquid, the "boss" is the older users / moderators, "u" is the new posters, and the "day off" is a beta key. hopefully this one is easier to understand than the party one.


No youre not getting what I'm saying - I completely understand the analogy, the analogy works, its just:
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other.


Why was this necessary? I'm disgusted at the sense of empowerment you give yourself through this comment.
:)
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
April 17 2010 22:11 GMT
#734
On April 18 2010 07:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:00 Weedman wrote:
At the parties I go to everyone gets beer, and the new guy is welcomed!


At the parties I go to everyone gets an equal share of beer and has a good time.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


At the parties I go to everyone is too busy smoking and being high to worry about a few lousy beers. We're all good to drive home afterward as well. Fuck beer, rofl
Chains none
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
April 17 2010 22:11 GMT
#735
On April 18 2010 07:03 Cheree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:53 baller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 18 2010 06:45 Cheree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.


It's stupid to let everyone get to nominate themselves in the first place, it's even stupider to say no one gets the beer if no one retracts their nomination. While ronnie and pauly helped with the organization of the party, it doesn't mean mike isn't deserving from his own perspective. He may have had a full weekend of acting like Mother Theresa, feeding the homeless and buying a donkey the whole village can fuck. So in his own right, he thinks he deserves a break and is deserving of a beer.


mike could be mother theresa. or he could be a douche that steals ur girlfriend when u go to the bathroom at a club. my point is ronnie and pauly have no idea about this outsider mike guy. and when u join a community ur first posts r the first impression u leave for every1 else. u have 1 shot to make a first impression on ronnie and pauly. 1 shot. especially on ronnie. and new users like mike r using their 1st posts to spam for a beer that they kno they probably won't get.

thats why its understandable ronnie and pauly hate mike. new posters shouldn't complain about the situation they create for themselves.

Ronnie and Pauly could listen to Mike's story and get to know him. If Mike's convincing, then he deserves a shot.

no man, u only get 1 shot at first impression. 1 shot bro, 1 shot. thats the whole point.

Also, Mike isn't necessarily new, he could be someone frequenting these parties for a long time but his presence had slipped everyone's mind. He may have even helped with the preperation a lot more than Ronnie and Pauly, but he just needed to remind people of it.

just because mike did preparation doesnt mean he gets to demand things. if some1 cooked ur meal for u and then after the meal didnt want to help clean up after his own plate and wanted u to be his bitch and clean up his trash, that would be messed up even if he did the preparation.

BTW, it's not only Mike having a first impression on Ronnie and Pauly, it also works the other way around. The impression of the community on Mike depends on how the community reacts to his simple request of a beer. People should just be saying, "Hah nice try Mike, but sorry, we're giving it to Ronnie and Pauly cause we know them and the effort they've put in. As for you, better luck next time" Instead, many in the TL community have opted to go for the public humiliation route that doesn't help anything at all. People not stepping down aren't the ones ruining everyone's chance at the beer, it's the organizers who are ruining it with their poor design of a beer giving out process that doesn't match with their intention of giving the beer to the most deserving in the party.

when u and ur friends r in a battle and a grenade gets thrown at u, some1 has to take it for the good of the team. thats what friends r for. what i see in this thread is a grenade getting thrown and only 39 out of 150 ppl willing to save their friends.
IndecisivePenguin
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States771 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:18:59
April 17 2010 22:12 GMT
#736
Screw beer, we need a pinata! :D

+ Show Spoiler +
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OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
April 17 2010 22:13 GMT
#737
On April 18 2010 07:11 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:06 baller wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:59 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:58 baller wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:54 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.

if you're assuming that many starcraft players are not knowledgeable concerning "parties," how does using a party as an analogy help "every1 understand better?"

the "party" is the internet forum and "ronnie and pauly" are old teamliquid users and "mike" is a new teamliquid user and the "beer" at the party is teamliquid's beta keys

I realize how the analogy works, I'm suggesting that "for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other." was completely unnecessary.

ok ill make another analogy if u dont think the party one is appropriate for a gaming forum

lets say u used to be a bartender. but now u work as a salesman for ur boss, who provides u with a job and a place to live, right next to where u work. but on the 1st day of work, u start demanding things like a day off. how is ur boss going to react? hes going to think ur undeserving. it doesnt matter that u did great things at ur old job. when u come to somewhere new u need to respect the people who have been there longer.

in this analogy (hopefully its clearer) the "job" is the internet forums team liquid, the "boss" is the older users / moderators, "u" is the new posters, and the "day off" is a beta key. hopefully this one is easier to understand than the party one.


No youre not getting what I'm saying - I completely understand the analogy, the analogy works, its just:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other.


Why was this necessary? I'm disgusted at the sense of empowerment you give yourself through this comment.


Dude it's a joke, chill.
It's just some nerd humor.
Cheree
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada123 Posts
April 17 2010 22:14 GMT
#738
On April 18 2010 07:05 IndecisivePenguin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 18 2010 07:03 Cheree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:53 baller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 18 2010 06:45 Cheree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.


It's stupid to let everyone get to nominate themselves in the first place, it's even stupider to say no one gets the beer if no one retracts their nomination. While ronnie and pauly helped with the organization of the party, it doesn't mean mike isn't deserving from his own perspective. He may have had a full weekend of acting like Mother Theresa, feeding the homeless and buying a donkey the whole village can fuck. So in his own right, he thinks he deserves a break and is deserving of a beer.


mike could be mother theresa. or he could be a douche that steals ur girlfriend when u go to the bathroom at a club. my point is ronnie and pauly have no idea about this outsider mike guy. and when u join a community ur first posts r the first impression u leave for every1 else. u have 1 shot to make a first impression on ronnie and pauly. 1 shot. especially on ronnie. and new users like mike r using their 1st posts to spam for a beer that they kno they probably won't get.

thats why its understandable ronnie and pauly hate mike. new posters shouldn't complain about the situation they create for themselves.

Ronnie and Pauly could listen to Mike's story and get to know him. If Mike's convincing, then he deserves a shot. Also, Mike isn't necessarily new, he could be someone frequenting these parties for a long time but his presence had slipped everyone's mind. He may have even helped with the preperation a lot more than Ronnie and Pauly, but he just needed to remind people of it. BTW, it's not only Mike having a first impression on Ronnie and Pauly, it also works the other way around. The impression of the community on Mike depends on how the community reacts to his simple request of a beer. People should just be saying, "Hah nice try Mike, but sorry, we're giving it to Ronnie and Pauly cause we know them and the effort they've put in. As for you, better luck next time" Instead, many in the TL community have opted to go for the public humiliation route that doesn't help anything at all. People not stepping down aren't the ones ruining everyone's chance at the beer, it's the organizers who are ruining it with their poor design of a beer giving out process that doesn't match with their intention of giving the beer to the most deserving in the party,


In the end, it's all just kinda messed up everywhere, isn't it?

Yea, it's like a shit colored rainbow after a shitstorm.
*wants beta*
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
April 17 2010 22:16 GMT
#739
On April 18 2010 07:11 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:06 baller wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:59 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:58 baller wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:54 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.

if you're assuming that many starcraft players are not knowledgeable concerning "parties," how does using a party as an analogy help "every1 understand better?"

the "party" is the internet forum and "ronnie and pauly" are old teamliquid users and "mike" is a new teamliquid user and the "beer" at the party is teamliquid's beta keys

I realize how the analogy works, I'm suggesting that "for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other." was completely unnecessary.

ok ill make another analogy if u dont think the party one is appropriate for a gaming forum

lets say u used to be a bartender. but now u work as a salesman for ur boss, who provides u with a job and a place to live, right next to where u work. but on the 1st day of work, u start demanding things like a day off. how is ur boss going to react? hes going to think ur undeserving. it doesnt matter that u did great things at ur old job. when u come to somewhere new u need to respect the people who have been there longer.

in this analogy (hopefully its clearer) the "job" is the internet forums team liquid, the "boss" is the older users / moderators, "u" is the new posters, and the "day off" is a beta key. hopefully this one is easier to understand than the party one.


No youre not getting what I'm saying - I completely understand the analogy, the analogy works, its just:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other.


Why was this necessary? I'm disgusted at the sense of empowerment you give yourself through this comment.

sigh ok im sorry my analogies r bad, its getting harder to think of them

ok so lets say ur at a club. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a club is where ppl go to dance with other ppl their age and probably hook up (kiss and stuff). lets say at this club theres drinking, and ur friend walks in and gets drunk. but ur hooking up with this really fly girl and ur drunk friend is demanding that u take her back to her room. it really sucks to stop hooking up with ur girl and u think ur friend who just walked in would not get drunk right away and would understand that ur busy but she just doesnt and keeps demanding stuff.

in this analogy ur friend is the new poster and the club is the internet forum teamliquid. the fly girl is the beta key. or maybe the beer is the beta key. or maybe the club is the older users. im not really sure because im running out of analogy ideas. this one isnt as good but i dont know how else to explain it.
IndecisivePenguin
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States771 Posts
April 17 2010 22:19 GMT
#740
On April 18 2010 07:16 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:11 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 07:06 baller wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:59 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:58 baller wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:54 synapse wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.

if you're assuming that many starcraft players are not knowledgeable concerning "parties," how does using a party as an analogy help "every1 understand better?"

the "party" is the internet forum and "ronnie and pauly" are old teamliquid users and "mike" is a new teamliquid user and the "beer" at the party is teamliquid's beta keys

I realize how the analogy works, I'm suggesting that "for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other." was completely unnecessary.

ok ill make another analogy if u dont think the party one is appropriate for a gaming forum

lets say u used to be a bartender. but now u work as a salesman for ur boss, who provides u with a job and a place to live, right next to where u work. but on the 1st day of work, u start demanding things like a day off. how is ur boss going to react? hes going to think ur undeserving. it doesnt matter that u did great things at ur old job. when u come to somewhere new u need to respect the people who have been there longer.

in this analogy (hopefully its clearer) the "job" is the internet forums team liquid, the "boss" is the older users / moderators, "u" is the new posters, and the "day off" is a beta key. hopefully this one is easier to understand than the party one.


No youre not getting what I'm saying - I completely understand the analogy, the analogy works, its just:
On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other.


Why was this necessary? I'm disgusted at the sense of empowerment you give yourself through this comment.

sigh ok im sorry my analogies r bad, its getting harder to think of them

ok so lets say ur at a club. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a club is where ppl go to dance with other ppl their age and probably hook up (kiss and stuff). lets say at this club theres drinking, and ur friend walks in and gets drunk. but ur hooking up with this really fly girl and ur drunk friend is demanding that u take her back to her room. it really sucks to stop hooking up with ur girl and u think ur friend who just walked in would not get drunk right away and would understand that ur busy but she just doesnt and keeps demanding stuff.

in this analogy ur friend is the new poster and the club is the internet forum teamliquid. the fly girl is the beta key. or maybe the beer is the beta key. or maybe the club is the older users. im not really sure because im running out of analogy ideas. this one isnt as good but i dont know how else to explain it.


I think we pretty much already understand the situation. I think they just like humoring you.
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