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I am staying on board for the ride, keep me in! Someone must fly the flag for RuBy!
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On April 18 2010 07:19 IndecisivePenguin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 07:16 baller wrote:On April 18 2010 07:11 synapse wrote:On April 18 2010 07:06 baller wrote:On April 18 2010 06:59 synapse wrote:On April 18 2010 06:58 baller wrote:On April 18 2010 06:54 synapse wrote:On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better
lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.
but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.
but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.
so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome. if you're assuming that many starcraft players are not knowledgeable concerning "parties," how does using a party as an analogy help "every1 understand better?" the "party" is the internet forum and "ronnie and pauly" are old teamliquid users and "mike" is a new teamliquid user and the "beer" at the party is teamliquid's beta keys I realize how the analogy works, I'm suggesting that "for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other." was completely unnecessary. ok ill make another analogy if u dont think the party one is appropriate for a gaming forum lets say u used to be a bartender. but now u work as a salesman for ur boss, who provides u with a job and a place to live, right next to where u work. but on the 1st day of work, u start demanding things like a day off. how is ur boss going to react? hes going to think ur undeserving. it doesnt matter that u did great things at ur old job. when u come to somewhere new u need to respect the people who have been there longer. in this analogy (hopefully its clearer) the "job" is the internet forums team liquid, the "boss" is the older users / moderators, "u" is the new posters, and the "day off" is a beta key. hopefully this one is easier to understand than the party one. No youre not getting what I'm saying - I completely understand the analogy, the analogy works, its just: On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better
lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. Why was this necessary? I'm disgusted at the sense of empowerment you give yourself through this comment. sigh ok im sorry my analogies r bad, its getting harder to think of them ok so lets say ur at a club. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a club is where ppl go to dance with other ppl their age and probably hook up (kiss and stuff). lets say at this club theres drinking, and ur friend walks in and gets drunk. but ur hooking up with this really fly girl and ur drunk friend is demanding that u take her back to her room. it really sucks to stop hooking up with ur girl and u think ur friend who just walked in would not get drunk right away and would understand that ur busy but she just doesnt and keeps demanding stuff. in this analogy ur friend is the new poster and the club is the internet forum teamliquid. the fly girl is the beta key. or maybe the beer is the beta key. or maybe the club is the older users. im not really sure because im running out of analogy ideas. this one isnt as good but i dont know how else to explain it. I think we pretty much already understand the situation. I think they just like humoring you.
as far as i know, every1 in this thread understands the situation. if u say u dont understand the situation im gonna make u understand the situation...
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wow, this is hilarious
none of you will get any though, how many keys are there? don't think enough people will opt out
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Hahaha, this thread is epic win. People flaming each other, people licking each others asses while saying that other shall drop out, while still being in it for "a chance for more deserving members of the community to get the keys". Posters who beg to be a part of this, analogies about mike and beer. All for a game that isnt gonna have any winners.
Why cant we just assemble these people, give them one gun each. Say that the last one standing is getting 10 beta keys and 10 000 $. Let pokerstars.net sponsor it or something.
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Srs bizns going on here. I honestly can't wait for this all to just blow over so everyone can go back to being calm. I never would have thought I would actually miss reading balance complain threads.
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On April 18 2010 07:11 baller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 07:03 Cheree wrote:On April 18 2010 06:53 baller wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 18 2010 06:45 Cheree wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better
lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.
but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.
but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.
so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome. It's stupid to let everyone get to nominate themselves in the first place, it's even stupider to say no one gets the beer if no one retracts their nomination. While ronnie and pauly helped with the organization of the party, it doesn't mean mike isn't deserving from his own perspective. He may have had a full weekend of acting like Mother Theresa, feeding the homeless and buying a donkey the whole village can fuck. So in his own right, he thinks he deserves a break and is deserving of a beer. mike could be mother theresa. or he could be a douche that steals ur girlfriend when u go to the bathroom at a club. my point is ronnie and pauly have no idea about this outsider mike guy. and when u join a community ur first posts r the first impression u leave for every1 else. u have 1 shot to make a first impression on ronnie and pauly. 1 shot. especially on ronnie. and new users like mike r using their 1st posts to spam for a beer that they kno they probably won't get. thats why its understandable ronnie and pauly hate mike. new posters shouldn't complain about the situation they create for themselves. Ronnie and Pauly could listen to Mike's story and get to know him. If Mike's convincing, then he deserves a shot. no man, u only get 1 shot at first impression. 1 shot bro, 1 shot. thats the whole point.
Why even give new members that one shot if you're going to shoot everyone down no matter what they say?
On April 18 2010 07:11 baller wrote:
just because mike did preparation doesnt mean he gets to demand things. if some1 cooked ur meal for u and then after the meal didnt want to help clean up after his own plate and wanted u to be his bitch and clean up his trash, that would be messed up even if he did the preparation.
It's not a demand, it's a nomination. If your efforts go unnoticed, there's no shame in reminding people your contributions.
On April 18 2010 07:11 baller wrote:
when u and ur friends r in a battle and a grenade gets thrown at u, some1 has to take it for the good of the team. thats what friends r for. what i see in this thread is a grenade getting thrown and only 39 out of 150 ppl willing to save their friends.
Bad analogy. If no one wins this contest, the beta keys are not lost, they will be given out in a better manner.
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On April 18 2010 07:21 travis wrote:
wow, this is hilarious
none of you will get any though, how many keys are there? don't think enough people will opt out
I think there's only 10 keys.
So i'm assuming Hot_Bid gets 10 new accounts.
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It would be rather humerus if TL turns on the dime and says that everyone who opted out gets a key for being nice.
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forgot to add in my post that yes im still nominating myself. I really could use a key Ive followed SC2 since it was announced and have played BW hardcore to train for it.
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I know what to do! I order everyone else on the list in green to change your minds and opt-out NOW or none of us will get keys and we shall all die to the great fury that is GREED. Please just let it be me. This way you don't suffer! I'm really doing you a favor you know!
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On April 18 2010 07:22 Cheree wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 07:11 baller wrote:On April 18 2010 07:03 Cheree wrote:On April 18 2010 06:53 baller wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 18 2010 06:45 Cheree wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better
lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.
but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.
but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.
so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome. It's stupid to let everyone get to nominate themselves in the first place, it's even stupider to say no one gets the beer if no one retracts their nomination. While ronnie and pauly helped with the organization of the party, it doesn't mean mike isn't deserving from his own perspective. He may have had a full weekend of acting like Mother Theresa, feeding the homeless and buying a donkey the whole village can fuck. So in his own right, he thinks he deserves a break and is deserving of a beer. mike could be mother theresa. or he could be a douche that steals ur girlfriend when u go to the bathroom at a club. my point is ronnie and pauly have no idea about this outsider mike guy. and when u join a community ur first posts r the first impression u leave for every1 else. u have 1 shot to make a first impression on ronnie and pauly. 1 shot. especially on ronnie. and new users like mike r using their 1st posts to spam for a beer that they kno they probably won't get. thats why its understandable ronnie and pauly hate mike. new posters shouldn't complain about the situation they create for themselves. Ronnie and Pauly could listen to Mike's story and get to know him. If Mike's convincing, then he deserves a shot. no man, u only get 1 shot at first impression. 1 shot bro, 1 shot. thats the whole point. Why even give new members that one shot if you're going to shoot everyone down no matter what they say? Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 07:11 baller wrote:
just because mike did preparation doesnt mean he gets to demand things. if some1 cooked ur meal for u and then after the meal didnt want to help clean up after his own plate and wanted u to be his bitch and clean up his trash, that would be messed up even if he did the preparation. It's not a demand, it's a nomination. If your efforts go unnoticed, there's no shame in reminding people your contributions. Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 07:11 baller wrote:
when u and ur friends r in a battle and a grenade gets thrown at u, some1 has to take it for the good of the team. thats what friends r for. what i see in this thread is a grenade getting thrown and only 39 out of 150 ppl willing to save their friends. Bad analogy. If no one wins this contest, the beta keys are not lost, they will be given out in a better manner.
It's fun having to re-explain things over and over, eh?
In a way, I'm starting to hope this does fail, because the manner in which the process is currently being held is causing way too many problems and miscommunication. I think the majority would agree that this isn't the most effective way to handle the situation. At least some people are having fun though haha.
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I don't think everyone but 10 must opt out, There could be 50 left and then a drawing between the 50.
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Oh shit baller, that makes so much sense... ( to quote you ) Lol good analogy.
I think everyone is analyzing what TL is offering a little too much.
Iv had this TL account since '03 but I'm not the bigges forum poster...obviously. Speaking for myself, which I think goes for a lot of other people in the SC community that are on TL.net 24/7, reading liquipedia, following calendar events, strats... Just getting their fixes from the local SC drugdealer, TL, who we love so dearly.I'm on the site all day!
I myself am writing this from work, from my iPhone... Just because someone doesn't have 10k posts or is well known doesn't mean they are not members of the community. How mean to say so 
which brings me to my next point... I should really get back out into the plant where I inspect the quality and safety of vegetables you and Your families are consuming... All the more reason to give me a key. I can see it now:
"Food inspector let's e-coli hit the shelves, reason: he didn't get a Starcraft 2 beta key from TeamLiquid.net"
... No i'd never do that 
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On April 18 2010 07:23 Snowfield wrote:
It would be rather humerus if TL turns on the dime and says that everyone who opted out gets a key for being nice.
Yeah I really wouldn't have a problem with generous people getting the keys. But how do we then differentiate those who are actually generous from those just trying to look good for the community?
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On April 18 2010 07:25 Weedman wrote:
I don't think everyone but 10 must opt out, There could be 50 left and then a drawing between the 50.
6. If there are too many people still on the list after 48 hours, nobody gets any.
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On April 18 2010 07:25 Weedman wrote:
I don't think everyone but 10 must opt out, There could be 50 left and then a drawing between the 50.
No. There will be no drawing, that is the nature of the contest. Please read the rules.
If there are 20 keys and 21 people are left on the list, we give 0 keys away.
If there are 20 keys and 20 people are left on the list, we give 20 keys away.
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On April 18 2010 07:16 baller wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 07:11 synapse wrote:On April 18 2010 07:06 baller wrote:On April 18 2010 06:59 synapse wrote:On April 18 2010 06:58 baller wrote:On April 18 2010 06:54 synapse wrote:On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better
lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.
but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.
but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.
so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome. if you're assuming that many starcraft players are not knowledgeable concerning "parties," how does using a party as an analogy help "every1 understand better?" the "party" is the internet forum and "ronnie and pauly" are old teamliquid users and "mike" is a new teamliquid user and the "beer" at the party is teamliquid's beta keys I realize how the analogy works, I'm suggesting that "for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other." was completely unnecessary. ok ill make another analogy if u dont think the party one is appropriate for a gaming forum lets say u used to be a bartender. but now u work as a salesman for ur boss, who provides u with a job and a place to live, right next to where u work. but on the 1st day of work, u start demanding things like a day off. how is ur boss going to react? hes going to think ur undeserving. it doesnt matter that u did great things at ur old job. when u come to somewhere new u need to respect the people who have been there longer. in this analogy (hopefully its clearer) the "job" is the internet forums team liquid, the "boss" is the older users / moderators, "u" is the new posters, and the "day off" is a beta key. hopefully this one is easier to understand than the party one. No youre not getting what I'm saying - I completely understand the analogy, the analogy works, its just: On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better
lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. Why was this necessary? I'm disgusted at the sense of empowerment you give yourself through this comment. sigh ok im sorry my analogies r bad, its getting harder to think of them ok so lets say ur at a club. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a club is where ppl go to dance with other ppl their age and probably hook up (kiss and stuff). lets say at this club theres drinking, and ur friend walks in and gets drunk. but ur hooking up with this really fly girl and ur drunk friend is demanding that u take her back to her room. it really sucks to stop hooking up with ur girl and u think ur friend who just walked in would not get drunk right away and would understand that ur busy but she just doesnt and keeps demanding stuff. in this analogy ur friend is the new poster and the club is the internet forum teamliquid. the fly girl is the beta key. or maybe the beer is the beta key. or maybe the club is the older users. im not really sure because im running out of analogy ideas. this one isnt as good but i dont know how else to explain it.
It's like you're trying to get the last spot on your local recreational American Football team the Liquid Logicians. For those nerds who are like: "What?", American Football is an R-Sport. R meaning "real". Ok so you have the coach saying "Okay we only have a few spots left, tell us why you deserve them and it's yours. Anybody can speak up". You have Leroy Jackson and Chuck Thikstake who have been to every practice and have stayed afterward to help others with working out/going over plays who think they deserve it because they are very loyal and dedicated. Then you have Maxwell Bigshot who just moved to your city and used to be the best player for his team, the Gosu Gamedogs. He thinks he deserves it for whatever reason. He is no more extraordinary than Leroy or Chuck in terms of physical prowess or athletic ability but everybody still thinks that Maxwell is a dickhead because he hasn't done shit as far as their concerned.
In this analogy the spot on the team is perhaps the beta key. Leroy and Chuck are the regular and loyal forum contributes and Maxwell is the average 25 casual user.
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On April 18 2010 07:28 LordWeird wrote:
It's like you're trying to get the a spot on your local recreational American Football team the Liquid Logicians. For those nerds who are like: "What?", American Football is an R-Sport. R meaning "real". Ok so you have the coach saying "Okay we only have a few spots left, tell us why you deserve them and it's yours. Anybody can speak up". You have Leroy Jackson and Chuck Thikstake who have been to every practice and have stayed afterward to help others with working out/going over plays who think they deserve it because they are very loyal and dedicated. Then you have Maxwell Bigshot who just moved to your city and used to be the best player for his team, the Gosu Gamedogs. He thinks he deserves it for whatever reason. He is no more extraordinary than Leroy or Chuck in terms of physical prowess or athletic ability but everybody still thinks that Maxwell is a dickhead because he hasn't done shit as far as their concerned.
In this analogy the spot on the team is perhaps the beta key. Leroy and Chuck are the regular and loyal forum contributes and Maxwell is the average 25 casual user.
Haha don't feed the fire! xD
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On April 18 2010 07:22 ComradeDover wrote:
Srs bizns going on here. I honestly can't wait for this all to just blow over so everyone can go back to being calm. I never would have thought I would actually miss reading balance complain threads.
Come on, half the fun of being on TL is witnessing all the drama that goes on here. Why else would girl blogs and Idra bashing threads be so popular? 
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So what if there are 20 keys and only 15 are in? What happens to the other 5?
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