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s2pid_loser
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
April 17 2010 22:30 GMT
#761
I'll opt out
Et Ducit Mundum Per Luce
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 17 2010 22:30 GMT
#762
On April 18 2010 07:26 IndecisivePenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:23 Snowfield wrote:
It would be rather humerus if TL turns on the dime and says that everyone who opted out gets a key for being nice.


Yeah I really wouldn't have a problem with generous people getting the keys. But how do we then differentiate those who are actually generous from those just trying to look good for the community?

i think a lot of people opting out are hoping for that^^
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:31:40
April 17 2010 22:30 GMT
#763
On April 18 2010 07:29 Chaoz wrote:
So what if there are 20 keys and only 15 are in? What happens to the other 5?

I would only assume another giveaway.
But I highly doubt it would go down to such a low number of people.
After all, 50 + people have decided to stay in
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 17 2010 22:31 GMT
#764
On April 18 2010 07:29 Chaoz wrote:
So what if there are 20 keys and only 15 are in? What happens to the other 5?

Once the number of users on the list matches the number of keys we allotted, the contest ends and everyone gets their keys.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Cheree
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada123 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:32:48
April 17 2010 22:32 GMT
#765
On April 18 2010 07:25 IndecisivePenguin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 18 2010 07:22 Cheree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:11 baller wrote:
On April 18 2010 07:03 Cheree wrote:
On April 18 2010 06:53 baller wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 18 2010 06:45 Cheree wrote:
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On April 18 2010 06:38 baller wrote:
i will make an analogy that may help every1 understand better

lets say theres a real life party. for those nerds that r like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and they have all this beer there, and they r drinkin the beer that they have there.

but suddenly oh no, there r only a few beers left. so the party hosts r like, who thinks they should have the last few beers? any1 can have them, just tell us why u think u deserve the last beers. so first, the ppl who helped set up the party and have been there for hours say maybe pauly or ronnie should have the beers.

but then some new guy mike walks in that minute and is like yo party, i should get the beer because i really like beer. all the peeps at the party get angry bc they dont think mike deserves it, and they also r kind of insulted that mike would even ask, even tho they said any1 could ask 4 beer.

so now its obvious why ronnie and pauly would think mike is an asshole. try to imagine urself as ronnie or pauly. imagine the "party" is an internet forum called teamliquid and the "beers" is beta keys. imagine mike is a new poster. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.


It's stupid to let everyone get to nominate themselves in the first place, it's even stupider to say no one gets the beer if no one retracts their nomination. While ronnie and pauly helped with the organization of the party, it doesn't mean mike isn't deserving from his own perspective. He may have had a full weekend of acting like Mother Theresa, feeding the homeless and buying a donkey the whole village can fuck. So in his own right, he thinks he deserves a break and is deserving of a beer.


mike could be mother theresa. or he could be a douche that steals ur girlfriend when u go to the bathroom at a club. my point is ronnie and pauly have no idea about this outsider mike guy. and when u join a community ur first posts r the first impression u leave for every1 else. u have 1 shot to make a first impression on ronnie and pauly. 1 shot. especially on ronnie. and new users like mike r using their 1st posts to spam for a beer that they kno they probably won't get.

thats why its understandable ronnie and pauly hate mike. new posters shouldn't complain about the situation they create for themselves.

Ronnie and Pauly could listen to Mike's story and get to know him. If Mike's convincing, then he deserves a shot.

no man, u only get 1 shot at first impression. 1 shot bro, 1 shot. thats the whole point.

Why even give new members that one shot if you're going to shoot everyone down no matter what they say?

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On April 18 2010 07:11 baller wrote:
just because mike did preparation doesnt mean he gets to demand things. if some1 cooked ur meal for u and then after the meal didnt want to help clean up after his own plate and wanted u to be his bitch and clean up his trash, that would be messed up even if he did the preparation.

It's not a demand, it's a nomination. If your efforts go unnoticed, there's no shame in reminding people your contributions.

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On April 18 2010 07:11 baller wrote:
when u and ur friends r in a battle and a grenade gets thrown at u, some1 has to take it for the good of the team. thats what friends r for. what i see in this thread is a grenade getting thrown and only 39 out of 150 ppl willing to save their friends.

Bad analogy. If no one wins this contest, the beta keys are not lost, they will be given out in a better manner.


It's fun having to re-explain things over and over, eh?

Yep, I'll drill it into their heads if I have to. :D

- Cheree
Investor in People
*wants beta*
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
April 17 2010 22:32 GMT
#766
What About DanBel?
Why Not?
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
IndecisivePenguin
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States771 Posts
April 17 2010 22:32 GMT
#767
On April 18 2010 07:30 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:26 IndecisivePenguin wrote:
On April 18 2010 07:23 Snowfield wrote:
It would be rather humerus if TL turns on the dime and says that everyone who opted out gets a key for being nice.


Yeah I really wouldn't have a problem with generous people getting the keys. But how do we then differentiate those who are actually generous from those just trying to look good for the community?

i think a lot of people opting out are hoping for that^^


Yeah I'm sure everyone considered it a possibility. In that sense, though, they might still be looking out for their personal gain in the end anyway.

Still <3ing you all that did so sincerely though.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 17 2010 22:33 GMT
#768
On April 18 2010 07:31 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:29 Chaoz wrote:
So what if there are 20 keys and only 15 are in? What happens to the other 5?

Once the number of users on the list matches the number of keys we allotted, the contest ends and everyone gets their keys.

isnt there less than 5 keys lol? there is no way enough people will drop out by the deadline.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:39:32
April 17 2010 22:36 GMT
#769
I think that TL handled this all wrong though. Why no drawing at all? That makes it so that there is no point in this. You could've at least selected some more users that are great contributors(like in the news post) instead of doing this. Now that I realize whats happening for real I just wish I hadn't nominated myself at all. -.- I'm starting to wonder why I should trust TL's staff at all anymore.

edit: edited for change of meaning.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:39:50
April 17 2010 22:37 GMT
#770
On April 18 2010 07:26 zTz wrote:
Oh shit baller, that makes so much sense... ( to quote you ) Lol good analogy.

I think everyone is analyzing what TL is offering a little too much.

Iv had this TL account since '03 but I'm not the bigges forum poster...obviously. Speaking for myself, which I think goes for a lot of other people in the SC community that are on TL.net 24/7, reading liquipedia, following calendar events, strats... Just getting their fixes from the local SC drugdealer, TL, who we love so dearly.I'm on the site all day!

I myself am writing this from work, from my iPhone... Just because someone doesn't have 10k posts or is well known doesn't mean they are not members of the community. How mean to say so

which brings me to my next point... I should really get back out into the plant where I inspect the quality and safety of vegetables you and Your families are consuming... All the more reason to give me a key. I can see it now:

"Food inspector let's e-coli hit the shelves, reason: he didn't get a Starcraft 2 beta key from TeamLiquid.net"
... No i'd never do that

honestly regardless of join date if you dont contribute on this site in some way or another you're a leech. And im saying this because i am a leech myself. You're taking everything with nothing in return. Even saying thank you to contributors is helpful. If you ask some of the contributors and ask them why they stream, translate, etc they'll answer i do it for the people that say thanks.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
April 17 2010 22:38 GMT
#771
On April 17 2010 14:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
Even though you guys received a lot of hate from everyone for being selfish, we have decided to give a few beta keys to the self-nominators from the SC2 Beta Nomination Thread.



What if they aren't SC2 Beta keys? Maybe they are bet keys for Super Monster Zombie Mash up Killer : EXTREME edition.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
April 17 2010 22:38 GMT
#772
On April 18 2010 07:37 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:26 zTz wrote:
Oh shit baller, that makes so much sense... ( to quote you ) Lol good analogy.

I think everyone is analyzing what TL is offering a little too much.

Iv had this TL account since '03 but I'm not the bigges forum poster...obviously. Speaking for myself, which I think goes for a lot of other people in the SC community that are on TL.net 24/7, reading liquipedia, following calendar events, strats... Just getting their fixes from the local SC drugdealer, TL, who we love so dearly.I'm on the site all day!

I myself am writing this from work, from my iPhone... Just because someone doesn't have 10k posts or is well known doesn't mean they are not members of the community. How mean to say so

which brings me to my next point... I should really get back out into the plant where I inspect the quality and safety of vegetables you and Your families are consuming... All the more reason to give me a key. I can see it now:

"Food inspector let's e-coli hit the shelves, reason: he didn't get a Starcraft 2 beta key from TeamLiquid.net"
... No i'd never do that

honestly regardless of join date if you dont contribute on this site in some way or another you're a leech. And im saying this because i am a leech myself.


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Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
April 17 2010 22:39 GMT
#773
It all seems, as said several times before, pointless and cruel. You might as well just have given the keys to the rest of the staff that hasn't got a key yet or whatever. It's like you made this thing specifically so that people could bash on us even more.
Cheree
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada123 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 22:43:13
April 17 2010 22:39 GMT
#774
On April 18 2010 07:28 LordWeird wrote:
It's like you're trying to get the last spot on your local recreational American Football team the Liquid Logicians. For those nerds who are like: "What?", American Football is an R-Sport. R meaning "real". Ok so you have the coach saying "Okay we only have a few spots left, tell us why you deserve them and it's yours. Anybody can speak up". You have Leroy Jackson and Chuck Thikstake who have been to every practice and have stayed afterward to help others with working out/going over plays who think they deserve it because they are very loyal and dedicated. Then you have Maxwell Bigshot who just moved to your city and used to be the best player for his team, the Gosu Gamedogs. He thinks he deserves it for whatever reason. He is no more extraordinary than Leroy or Chuck in terms of physical prowess or athletic ability but everybody still thinks that Maxwell is a dickhead because he hasn't done shit as far as their concerned.

In this analogy the spot on the team is perhaps the beta key. Leroy and Chuck are the regular and loyal forum contributes and Maxwell is the average 25 casual user.

The stupidest person in this analogy is the coach for not putting ANYONE on because neither of the three candidates will step down. What should be done is this, the coach should say "Ok Maxwell, we admire your fire, but I can't put you on cause we have both Leroy and Chuck who have invested so much in this team already. It wouldn't be fair to them."

If you call Maxwell a dickhead, you're basically driving him away from the team for no good reason as well as sending a message to all new recruits that they're sacks of shit until they prove themselves to the team. He just wants to play, there's nothing wrong with that.
*wants beta*
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
April 17 2010 22:40 GMT
#775
On April 18 2010 07:36 3FFA wrote:
I think that TL handled this all wrong though. Why no drawing at all? That makes it so that there is no point in this. You could've at least selected some more users that are great contributors(like in the news post) instead of doing this. Now that I realize whats happening for real I just wish I hadn't nominated myself at all. -.- I'm starting to wonder why I should trust TL's staff at all anymore.

edit: edited for change of meaning.


Why do you think all the keys from the nomination thread are being used in this contest?
skating
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 17 2010 22:43 GMT
#776
On April 18 2010 07:40 huameng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:36 3FFA wrote:
I think that TL handled this all wrong though. Why no drawing at all? That makes it so that there is no point in this. You could've at least selected some more users that are great contributors(like in the news post) instead of doing this. Now that I realize whats happening for real I just wish I hadn't nominated myself at all. -.- I'm starting to wonder why I should trust TL's staff at all anymore.

edit: edited for change of meaning.


Why do you think all the keys from the nomination thread are being used in this contest?

Ya but I didn't realize how they would handle the contest. This is just cruel. They should have just said that you can't nominate yourself instead of "and yes, you can nominate yourself".
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
April 17 2010 22:44 GMT
#777
On April 18 2010 07:43 3FFA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:40 huameng wrote:
On April 18 2010 07:36 3FFA wrote:
I think that TL handled this all wrong though. Why no drawing at all? That makes it so that there is no point in this. You could've at least selected some more users that are great contributors(like in the news post) instead of doing this. Now that I realize whats happening for real I just wish I hadn't nominated myself at all. -.- I'm starting to wonder why I should trust TL's staff at all anymore.

edit: edited for change of meaning.


Why do you think all the keys from the nomination thread are being used in this contest?

Ya but I didn't realize how they would handle the contest. This is just cruel. They should have just said that you can't nominate yourself instead of "and yes, you can nominate yourself".

Nah, they're just trying to extract as much amusement from the keys as possible while giving them away. Good entertainment for the rest of us.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 17 2010 22:46 GMT
#778
On April 18 2010 07:33 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:31 Hot_Bid wrote:
On April 18 2010 07:29 Chaoz wrote:
So what if there are 20 keys and only 15 are in? What happens to the other 5?

Once the number of users on the list matches the number of keys we allotted, the contest ends and everyone gets their keys.

isnt there less than 5 keys lol? there is no way enough people will drop out by the deadline.


That is the point.
:)
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 23:07:11
April 17 2010 22:47 GMT
#779
On April 18 2010 07:43 3FFA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2010 07:40 huameng wrote:
On April 18 2010 07:36 3FFA wrote:
I think that TL handled this all wrong though. Why no drawing at all? That makes it so that there is no point in this. You could've at least selected some more users that are great contributors(like in the news post) instead of doing this. Now that I realize whats happening for real I just wish I hadn't nominated myself at all. -.- I'm starting to wonder why I should trust TL's staff at all anymore.

edit: edited for change of meaning.


Why do you think all the keys from the nomination thread are being used in this contest?

Ya but I didn't realize how they would handle the contest. This is just cruel. They should have just said that you can't nominate yourself instead of "and yes, you can nominate yourself".

everyone has a right to nominate his or her self. it's a matter of personal discretion whether or not one should.

(pretending that all these people don't have keys, some do and some don't) if people like fuddx, kau, xeris, last romantic, ilikestarcraft, konadora, alffla etc nominated themselves do you think there would be any objection? (*edit* just realized that almost all of those people i listed have gigantic post counts, but the same would hold true if they only had 500 posts but there were still contributors to TL)
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 17 2010 22:48 GMT
#780
How is everyone so sure how many keys we have to give away for this? We haven't revealed how many we allocated, and I said earlier the number is much larger than people expect.
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