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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
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intrudor
Canada446 Posts
dude, you got 11 posts so far on this forum. youre not really in a position to decide who's intelligent and who's not. | ||
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Re-Play-
Dominican Republic825 Posts
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zipz0p
United States123 Posts
 I like the YellOw comment too - classic. | ||
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Bormac
Belgium122 Posts
Thank you Zatic, and all other magnificent bastards involved. | ||
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quaLLe
Germany11 Posts
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
On April 12 2010 11:17 PhiliBiRD wrote: if it wasnt a joke, im glad they arent doing this. sounded really bad. still people haven't worked this out? | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On April 12 2010 08:37 intrudor wrote: im not interested in laughing. im interested in SC2 being as good as BW. ive never played a single game...but ...obviously..reading the feedback...im concerned. If some dude made an awesome Half-life mod, which became Counter-Strike....i hope that SC2 Pro-mode actually gets done in the future, in the event that SC2 doesnt live up to the expectations. do you want to laugh at an april's fool for a few minutes? and be sad for years to come due to the fact that SC2 actually sucks? or is SC2Pro-mod an idea that should be taken seriously? btw....was Zatic serious in his intention to create this project? (i.e. was he using april's fools day as a prospectus) What is the point of SCII if it was identical to BW? Why buy/play the same game twice? Why not play you know.... BW? To many companies realeased sequels these days that are nothing more then better graphics and some new maps. They are NOT the same game, and they shouldn't "(...)ive never played a single game(...)" Maybe wait saying it will suck until you tried it? Who knows you might love it | ||
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psychopat
Canada417 Posts
On April 12 2010 12:41 intrudor wrote: dude, you got 11 posts so far on this forum. youre not really in a position to decide who's intelligent and who's not. Because we all know that the number of posts properly reflects intellectual acumen, right? I realize and understand why a certain amount of favouritism to the regulars, but your retort kind of proves his point, regardless of how tactless that point was. As for the prank, it was very well done. It had an air of believability up until you really started browsing through the promod site and reading it all. It being March in the Americas at the time of the release was just icing on the cake and I'm sure that that contributed a lot to how many people were fooled. I think the Donzia and the Idra stuff were the funniest. | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
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sLiniss
United States849 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On April 13 2010 00:38 zul wrote: "a giant muta is an useful unit toi have" BAHAHAHA!! Seriously Idra played along so well in that convo with hotbid I thought it was just for lolz. Turns out he really lives up to being as "special" as we all know him to be. | ||
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intrudor
Canada446 Posts
On April 12 2010 22:40 SmoKim wrote: What is the point of SCII if it was identical to BW? Why buy/play the same game twice? Why not play you know.... BW? To many companies realeased sequels these days that are nothing more then better graphics and some new maps. They are NOT the same game, and they shouldn't "(...)ive never played a single game(...)" Maybe wait saying it will suck until you tried it? Who knows you might love it theres a fine line between "SC2 being the SAME as SC:BW" and "SC2 being the SAME as SC:BW" we dont want it to actually "be the same". what we want is a new game that keeps the core strategic elements that made BW so great and mixes it with all the new graphics/units/abilities/maps that SC2 should bring to the table. So introducing retarded automations and removing the defender's advantage and ignoring the positional importance of the armies etc... just for the sake of making sure SC2 isnt the same as BW is idiotic. if it aint broke, dont fix it. if you can recognize the key elements that made the original masterpiece so great, logic will tell you that you need to keep them while designing the sequel of the said masterpiece. ...and let's face it...reading the feedback we're getting from beta-testers, it's pretty clear that right now, SC2 is a decent game but it won't come close to matching BW's quality, let alone surpassing it. That being said, its obvious that its way too early to try to come up with a PROmod since we're only in the beta phase. But if after a few patches after the official release, we (serious gamers who actually know how a serious RTS should be like) still dont like the direction that SC2 is taking, then it will be time to start working on a fuckin' pro-mod to salvage this great franchise. if the FPS guys did it with counter-strike, then i dont see why we couldnt. we can think about that, or we can just laugh at some not-that-funny pranks. | ||
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BamBam
745 Posts
On April 12 2010 22:40 SmoKim wrote: What is the point of SCII if it was identical to BW? Why buy/play the same game twice? Why not play you know.... BW? To many companies realeased sequels these days that are nothing more then better graphics and some new maps. They are NOT the same game, and they shouldn't "(...)ive never played a single game(...)" Maybe wait saying it will suck until you tried it? Who knows you might love it For the same reason the masses bought Halo 2 as the sequel to Halo:CE For the same reason the masses bought Mass Effect 2 as the sequel to Mass Effect For the same reason the masses continue to buy the latest civilization franchise (Number #5 is coming out btw) For the same reason the masses buy Napoleon: Total war as a sequel from Empire : Total war A sequel's duty, is to carry onward what made the original great, while adding new and exciting things while scrapping the crappy stuff that made no sense and updating the game with the latest graphics to take advantage of a large consumer market to make the "big white men" rich. It is a shame that from the 10 year transition, the original starcraft crew has been lost. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On April 11 2010 17:47 Manifesto7 wrote: I just want to say that I think it is a shame that zatic's hard work is going down the drain. After pitching this idea to the lazy TL staff, and then making that site from I blame progamers personally. Look at what IdrA had to say about a mod that would have extended his career in Korea greatly: Idra [11:20 AM]: how big are the changes Idra [11:20 AM]: and are there any dangers using it Idra [11:20 AM]: legal with blizzard or otherwise HotBid [11:20 AM]: legally its fine HotBid [11:20 AM]: its like counterstrike modding HL2 Idra [11:20 AM]: how much does it change Idra [11:20 AM]: or what does it change HotBid [11:20 AM]: go to the website HotBid [11:20 AM]: it has the features there Idra [11:22 AM]: i think this is a bad idea Idra [11:22 AM]: its gonna fragment the community and official tournaments are never gonna run on it Idra [11:22 AM]: cuz blizz is gonna have a hand in everything thats really big and theyre not gonna use it HotBid [11:22 AM]: yeah but they dont know how powerful ESPORTS community is Idra [11:33 AM]: eh Idra [11:33 AM]: i dont think korea or china will adopt it at all Idra [11:33 AM]: and those are the biggies when you talk rts esports Idra [11:33 AM]: if you can get big euro leagues on board then youll get a bit of a split Idra [11:33 AM]: but i dont think its worth it Idra [11:34 AM]: btw i dont know anything about anything with computers, does this operate a seperate ladder or what Idra [11:34 AM]: like you can play on a ladder with other people using the mod and thats it? Idra [11:34 AM]: or just customs HotBid [11:34 AM]: we're going to run it through ICCup Idra [11:34 AM]: ah Idra [11:35 AM]: ya this is never gonna work Idra [11:35 AM]: interface mods and fixing high ground or w/e Idra [11:35 AM]: would be arguable Idra [11:35 AM]: but major changes to the game itself HotBid [11:36 AM]: id argue that the bigger issue is its release date Idra [11:36 AM]: what do you mean Idra [11:36 AM]: releasing the mod? HotBid [11:36 AM]: yeah today HotBid [11:36 AM]: is huge problem Idra [11:36 AM]: well ya its way too early, no way it should be done during the beta at all Idra [11:36 AM]: unless the goal is to demonstrate what blizz should be doing HotBid [11:36 AM]: nah i think today specifically HotBid [11:37 AM]: is the issue Idra [11:37 AM]: oh Idra [11:37 AM]: why HotBid [11:37 AM]: just a hunch Idra [11:38 AM]: you cant say somethin like that and then say “just a hunch” after a minute of typing and retyping Idra [11:39 AM]: did you get muta micro working as well as sc1? HotBid [11:39 AM]: we're thinking of doing one big mutalisk HotBid [11:39 AM]: like morphing them all into one Idra [11:39 AM]: permanently? HotBid [11:39 AM]: then it shoots out smaller mutas like interceptors Idra [11:39 AM]: that would be ridiculously overpowered Idra [11:40 AM]: wait Idra [11:40 AM]: what Idra [11:40 AM]: function exactly like a carrier or spawns actual mutas Idra [11:40 AM]: or do they act like broodlings Idra [11:40 AM]: or what Idra [11:40 AM]: i think making radical changes like that is just gonna discourage people even more HotBid [11:40 AM]: i dunno its probably not as big a change as the DT buff HotBid [11:41 AM]: giving DT reaper ability Idra [11:42 AM]: theres no dt buff listed on that page HotBid [11:42 AM]: its for the second patch HotBid [11:42 AM]: cant list everything at once HotBid [11:42 AM]: that'll overwhelm everyone Idra [11:42 AM]: ah Idra [11:42 AM]: i dunno i think if you really want this to be a good thing for the community you should do the interface changes, fix high ground and some of the auto micro features Idra [11:42 AM]: and leave the actual gameplay as untouched as possible Idra [11:43 AM]: and even then i think its bad to fragment it at all when we dont even know how sc2s gonna turn out Idra [11:43 AM]: tbh i think it has quite a bit of potential as is HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out Idra [11:45 AM]: oh Idra [11:45 AM]: i just moused over Idra [11:45 AM]: the little date thing Idra [11:45 AM]: you guys are cute HotBid [11:45 AM]: LOL this convo is fucking gold Idra [11:45 AM]: sigh Idra [11:46 AM]: are people buying it Idra [11:46 AM]: i havent read the forums HotBid [11:46 AM]: 90% arent HotBid [11:46 AM]: but i always knew you were special Idra [11:46 AM]: i dont fuckin know what day it is Some people just don't know what is good for them. + Show Spoiler + Seriously, zatic is fucking amazing. He deserves huge props for making the promod a reality. As usual, this project worked on a TL timeline= idea thread in January, rebump in Feb and March, last minute panic 2 days before the deadline. I'm just going to bump this IRC conversation back up also, I guess it all makes sense why Idra has such a beef with Manifesto. he's obviously still salty over this private conversation between Hotbid and him being revealed by Manifesto. | ||
zatic
Zurich15328 Posts
What SC2 could have become! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/news-archive/117987-sc2b-sc2-pro-mod http://www.sc2promod.com/ | ||
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