EPTMouse Acceleration? - Page 4
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Deleted User 61629
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crashonly
Finland418 Posts
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
On June 18 2010 21:59 sob3k wrote: Jesus, I feel like I'm drawing on a waffle iron no accel seems to change the increments the mouse moves in from 1px all the way to like 4px... ....its like low resolution mouse movement... Is this how everyone's is working and you just deal with it? I have a Logitech Mini Optical...is it just crap at 1680x1050? WTF...how would you aim in CS with this? Lower your sensitivity.... | ||
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
On June 19 2010 05:04 Inori wrote: Can somebody confirm if I should have "Reduce mouse lag"on or off in SC2 options? Turn it on. It changes how the cursor is animated and typically will increase CPU usage slightly in exchange for a more responsive cursor animation. Sometimes you may notice in games that the cursor feels a little "sluggish". This feature helps eliminate that. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 18 2010 21:59 sob3k wrote: Jesus, I feel like I'm drawing on a waffle iron no accel seems to change the increments the mouse moves in from 1px all the way to like 4px... ....its like low resolution mouse movement... Is this how everyone's is working and you just deal with it? I have a Logitech Mini Optical...is it just crap at 1680x1050? WTF...how would you aim in CS with this? Outside of less than half a dozen people, nearly all competitive FPS players play without acceleration and most use low sens for greater precision. | ||
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
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crashonly
Finland418 Posts
On June 19 2010 05:38 MiyaviTeddy wrote: Does people even know what acceleration even does? On June 19 2010 04:55 Wr3k wrote: With mouse accel if you move quick to the left several times and then need to move back to center slowly your mouse will end up on the left end of your pad while the cursor is center justified. This causes you to eventually need to lift up your hand and move your mouse, which needless to say is BAD. Without mouse accel this problem does not exist, as your movements correlate to the cursor in a 1:1 fashion regardless of speed. The cursor does not accelerate or decelerate, it merely matches the speed of your hand. You cannot deny that having to pick up your mouse and relocate it to the center of the mousepad is detrimental. Additionally with mouse accel if you need to simply quickly move to a specific point on the screen it will begin to decrease cursor movement speed exponentially with respect to your hands deceleration, increasing the time it takes you to click on specific points by a significant amount. Do you really want to be slower? This is only the most recent explanation of 'what mouse acceleration' does in this thread, it has been done several times by now by several people. | ||
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gravityy
Denmark16 Posts
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Crazyeyes
Canada1342 Posts
It makes me wonder... is there anything else I'm missing? What else should I be turnin on/off? Also, what exactly does deleting those two registry files do? I turned off the MouseAccel, then deleted those, and I can't really notice a difference. Of course I noticed the difference when turning MouseAccel off, though. | ||
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hoborg
United States430 Posts
On June 19 2010 04:55 Wr3k wrote: With mouse accel if you move quick to the left several times and then need to move back to center slowly your mouse will end up on the left end of your pad while the cursor is center justified. This causes you to eventually need to lift up your hand and move your mouse, which needless to say is BAD. Without mouse accel this problem does not exist This is why I'm trying to switch to no accel - it hurts my hand if I have to keep recentering my mouse! But I'm still having the problem where there is accel in SC2 even though there is not on my desktop. Can anyone please help me out be performing a little test?: Open up a custom map in SC2 and move your mouse on the mousepad in tiny rapid circles, keeping the mouse in the same spot. Does your cursor stay in the same spot or does it drift off like on my computer? I'm curious as to if SC2 has acceleration permanently on or if I've got some setting incorrect on my computer. | ||
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
On June 18 2010 21:59 sob3k wrote: Jesus, I feel like I'm drawing on a waffle iron no accel seems to change the increments the mouse moves in from 1px all the way to like 4px... ....its like low resolution mouse movement... Is this how everyone's is working and you just deal with it? I have a Logitech Mini Optical...is it just crap at 1680x1050? WTF...how would you aim in CS with this? There's a reason why its called "enhance precision", because it helps bad mouses out with this problem. Logitech Mini is a pretty bad mouse performance wise, its good for starcraft since the resolution is low anyway. However with higher resolutions, that's why any half decent mouse nowadays for FPS (razer's, mx518) has increased DPI to increase actual precision, which works well for no mouse accel. | ||
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
On June 19 2010 06:55 hoborg wrote: This is why I'm trying to switch to no accel - it hurts my hand if I have to keep recentering my mouse! But I'm still having the problem where there is accel in SC2 even though there is not on my desktop. Can anyone please help me out be performing a little test?: Open up a custom map in SC2 and move your mouse on the mousepad in tiny rapid circles, keeping the mouse in the same spot. Does your cursor stay in the same spot or does it drift off like on my computer? I'm curious as to if SC2 has acceleration permanently on or if I've got some setting incorrect on my computer. | ||
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kineSiS-
Korea (South)1068 Posts
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Error Ash
Germany177 Posts
On June 19 2010 07:26 kineSiS- wrote: If you are an FPS player you can do very well with the Accceleration. ^^ #1 in a Public CS server within 1 Week. Oh gee, number one on a pubbie? That's so awesome... Anyone could do that with a joystick, touchpad, trackball, NES pad, ... And no, all the really good players, at least the ones i know it of (stermy, fox, cooller, etc...), play with mouse accel off. | ||
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
On June 19 2010 07:39 Error Ash wrote: Oh gee, number one on a pubbie? That's so awesome... Anyone could do that with a joystick, touchpad, trackball, NES pad, ... And no, all the really good players, at least the ones i know it of (stermy, fox, cooller, etc...), play with mouse accel off. I know cooller and ALOT of other quake players play with mouse accel ON btw. Although I personally feel that no accel is way better and its more common at high level fps, theres still a lot of really good accel players. | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
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-ReMeDy-
United States46 Posts
ix. Acceleration Turn on/off pointer acceleration and set acceleration level. Acceleration is not recommended for gaming. ^ I don't think they would say that and not disable acceleration by default, so I think I'm fine. My "enhance pointer speed" in my control panel was also disabled by default. I also disabled the registry keys. All these changes, yet no mouse difference, may mean I was playing with acceleration off this entire time without realizing it's a good thing. | ||
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
On June 19 2010 07:46 Vimsey wrote: Wr3K has covered this very well. When you first switch it will take getting used to and you will do worse with it. As to the above you wont find a top level pub player using acceleration in a top FPS let alone a comp player. cooller, rapha, cypher, zero4, fox, all of them being extremely high level quake players, use accel | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
On June 19 2010 07:48 -ReMeDy- wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Razer Copperhead mouse (and perhaps other Razer mouses?) have acceleration off by default. According to my mouse panel, that seems to be the case, as both the "acceleration" option and "X-Y Master Sensitivity" is toggled off. In the Razer Copperhead help file, it also states in the description for "Acceleration": ix. Acceleration Turn on/off pointer acceleration and set acceleration level. Acceleration is not recommended for gaming. ^ I don't think they would say that and not disable acceleration by default, so I think I'm fine. My "enhance pointer speed" in my control panel was also disabled by default. I also disabled the registry keys. All these changes, yet no mouse difference, may mean I was playing with acceleration off this entire time without realizing it's a good thing. Yes i think you are right there my imperator does and with other mice i had to make sure the windows settings were turned off. | ||
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