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On June 18 2010 14:56 ProHellZerg wrote:
prodiG, are you sure it's okay to delete those "SmoothMouseXCurve" and "SmoothMouseYCurve" registry files in Windows 7? Wouldn't that disable the whole mouse? O_o
I've done it at least fifty times. If you're feeling paranoid, export them to your desktop before you delete them from the registry
EDIT: you'll need to reboot for the changes to take effect
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Well prodiG, I know that I didn't have to delete those since I used "MarkC_Windows7_MouseFix," but I did it anyways to make sure there's zero mouse acceleration. Thanks. 
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I used the MarkC method, but never deleted the registry file in Win7. Will it affect anything?
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mouse accel is bad. not just because people here say it is. but because it's unpredictable.
the speed of the mouse is dictated by how your moving the mouse. quick sharp movements crank the speed way up, while small precise movements crank it way down.
just think about trying to predict "oh i need to move my mouse to there. mouse accel is on so i need to think about how fast i move my mouse there so i dont overshoot it"
whereas with it off you just move your mouse there and it's fine. because the speed is consistent forever.
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On June 18 2010 15:16 Chaoz wrote:
I used the MarkC method, but never deleted the registry file in Win7. Will it affect anything?
it's really not that big of a deal. if your paranoid you can always save the mouse folder to your desktop and restore the reg key later if your computer breaks.
but i seriously doubt it.
like with anything to do with computers. if you can backup and easily restore the settings later. there should be nothing stopping you from fiddling with them.
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Chaoz, deleting those registry files didn't affect my computer anything.
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Does anyone know if windows 7 has built in mouse acceleration? I've turned off "enhance pointer precision" in the mouse options but I know that windows XP also required a registry fix. Do I need something like that for windows 7?
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On June 18 2010 15:34 makopluxx wrote:
Does anyone know if windows 7 has built in mouse acceleration? I've turned off "enhance pointer precision" in the mouse options but I know that windows XP also required a registry fix. Do I need something like that for windows 7?
yes it does.
also:
as far as i know, all of the accel fixes you can download simply set the values of those two registry files to zero
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So I used mouse move recorder from MarkC. It seems pretty normal when I'm on the desktop, only a few reds and greens. When I try it in Sc2, it's all over the place so I guess mouse accel is still on. Any ideas on what's going on?
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only game you need mouse accel in is quake and unreal
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On June 18 2010 15:48 EleanorRIgby wrote:
only game you need mouse accel in is quake and unreal
uhh... no...
those are both games you need your mouse gestures to reflect exactly the same thing in game every time, missing a flick rail / shock combo can mean a win or a loss
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what is the benefit of turning off "enhance pointer precision"
that seems counter intuitive so if someone could please provide a brief explanation..
i really want to enhance my mouse control as well as keyboard use during the beta hiatus so thanks in advance for your info
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Just... read the thread. It's really all been explained. It's not even two full pages of reading, either. :D
Basically, it makes your movements more reliable.
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On June 18 2010 15:50 KillerPlague wrote:
what is the benefit of turning off "enhance pointer precision"
that seems counter intuitive so if someone could please provide a brief explanation..
i really want to enhance my mouse control as well as keyboard use during the beta hiatus so thanks in advance for your info
the mouse behaves a lot more consistently with it off in windows.
for those of you wondering any of the technical information, esreality always seems to blow anything i find on teamliquid out of the water: http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1846538
These guys know what they're talking about, if you want to see gaming hardware/software (especially mice) tested by the most anal and OCD gamers that's the place to go.
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mouse acceleration is terrible.
i don't think you can get used to it because at some point you will want to move your sacrifice control for speed, which is totally screwed up when the cursor moves varied distances per mouse movement.
with acceleration it's just harder to get consistent aim... this is why most players, espectially players with an FPS background, will have it off 100% of the time.
personally, having played FPS's since UT99, looking for the mouse acceleration button in the game properties is the first thing i do in a new game.
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On June 18 2010 14:56 ProHellZerg wrote:
prodiG, are you sure it's okay to delete those "SmoothMouseXCurve" and "SmoothMouseYCurve" registry files in Windows 7? Wouldn't that disable the whole mouse? O_o
Just turn of mouse acceleration "enhance pointer precision". Its not necessary to install some kind of registry fix under windows 7.
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In a vacuum, mouse acceleration is better on than off.
But we dont live or play in a vacuum, the amount of time it would take to train muscle memory to a level that it managed perfect accuracy with mouse acceleration would be astonishing.
For a rare few who never noticed it until way, way too late, its better to leave it on. If you're not already like top 0.5% in whatever it is you want to do with a mouse, though, you should turn it off.
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I'd like to add that MacOSX can not natively turn off mouse acceleration. I used to play dota on a Mac and I had to bear with having mouse acceleration. Turning the mouse acceleration to max helped make the movement more consistent, but there's no way to actually turn off or even down the acceleration curve, which is the real problem with the acceleration on it. It has the weirdest acceleration curve I've ever experienced. If I were to try to land right on a point on, say, my desktop, I would almost always either land too close or too far. Moving too slowly would not move it fast enough and moving it too quickly would overshoot.
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On June 18 2010 17:33 Kow wrote:
I'd like to add that MacOSX can not natively turn off mouse acceleration. I used to play dota on a Mac and I had to bear with having mouse acceleration. Turning the mouse acceleration to max helped make the movement more consistent, but there's no way to actually turn off or even down the acceleration curve, which is the real problem with the acceleration on it. It has the weirdest acceleration curve I've ever experienced. If I were to try to land right on a point on, say, my desktop, I would almost always either land too close or too far. Moving too slowly would not move it fast enough and moving it too quickly would overshoot.
it's even worse. even shareware drivers (steermouse + usb overdrive) who claim to fix it can't turn it off. the only thing that works reliable is controllermate. check this thread how to get rid of mac os x mouse accel.
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I've been playing WITH mouse acceleration all my life. Didn't even know you could turn it off. Makes me feel kinda stupid, but I've never been a pro-gamer or anything like that.
Looking forward to get home and try some BO maps with mouse acc off.
ps: just turned it off on my computer at work (no, I'm not gaming here) and it feels kinda weird. Guess I need a few hours practice before it feels right again. Thanks for bumping this thread again
hoborg
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