EU 1v1 Platinum rankings

On February 28 2010 07:31 Nafaltar wrote:
I will probably try and update with more current rankings every few days.

Pre patch Beta:
Repost of the rankings from 24.02. (link)

Post Patch 0.4.0.14133:
Rankings from 27.02. 23:07 GMT+1

On February 28 2010 07:34 Pape wrote:
No offense to all of these top rank threads, but who really cares? To me it really doesn't matter when most of the good competition isn't even playing the beta. Most guys have admitted that it is easy to get into the platinum league, and although I believe its not a easy ride all the way to the top its not the hardest either. Us without a key could care less who is top 10, and those that have a beta can check themselves if they care right?

On February 28 2010 07:38 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Can check... yes, but not easily. You have to have a friend in each division, then you have to check each friends profile -_ - It takes forever cause there's no back button.

RunA's record is wtf insane. That's a lot of games - can't be just one person?

I like these threads, so thx!

On February 28 2010 08:32 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Yeah, constantly, which is why I'm so annoyed by this whole division system. They give different points for wins depending on what division you are in (or at least, this is what I've been told), so the players in smaller divisions get less points to keep the disparity between players smaller or something.

I dunno, I'd much rather just have 1 ranking Or at least have 1600 pts mean the same regardless of what league or division you are in.

On February 28 2010 07:37 Tsagacity wrote:
Wow @ Runa's games played o.O

Also, Div 7 is almost pure zerg right now

On February 28 2010 08:39 Rothbardian wrote:


I believe this is how it works. Those who are proposing the different points different division theory have no supporting evidence. The disparity with points comes from the sheer fact of Bonus/Rest points + those who play 300 games will always have more points than those who play 50 because if you are 240-60 and the other guy is 50-0, you will invariably have a much higher ELO, its just common sense.

It's my belief that there is parity between the divisions, and you can rank by ELO and get accurate results (Though the B/R pts skew the whole system....).

On February 28 2010 07:34 Pape wrote:
No offense to all of these top rank threads, but who really cares? To me it really doesn't matter when most of the good competition isn't even playing the beta. Most guys have admitted that it is easy to get into the platinum league, and although I believe its not a easy ride all the way to the top its not the hardest either. Us without a key could care less who is top 10, and those that have a beta can check themselves if they care right?

On February 28 2010 08:40 distant_voice wrote:
so many known starcraft players in the rankings...

On February 28 2010 08:44 FrozenArbiter wrote:


I want 1600 to mean the same across all divisions tho. Like, it sucks when someone can be in gold with 1600 points and someone in Platinum with 1200 points can be ranked higher.

It makes no sense! Split the leagues in some other way, or at least give a "master ranking" - I want to see overall rankings not division by division/league by league.

Also, maybe it is just a coincidence, but look at Orly in Division 7. The guy is 125-25. He's got 1539 points.
Look at mTwMFkAra in division 6 - 125-48, 1554 pts.
Look at OgerEli in Div 7: 135-41 -- 1422 pts

Then let's look at me - JinrO, Division 3:
82-36 -- 1672 pts

Or hell, let's look at the leader of my division since he's played about the same amount of games:
Naugrim: 122-49 -- 1818 pts

Does that really make sense? Why isn't there anyone in the big divisions who has a ton of games played, a good record, but a low score?

On February 28 2010 07:38 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Can check... yes, but not easily. You have to have a friend in each division, then you have to check each friends profile -_ - It takes forever cause there's no back button.

RunA's record is wtf insane. That's a lot of games - can't be just one person?

I like these threads, so thx!

On February 28 2010 09:25 Zoler wrote:
Also, woohoo not a single terran #1

On February 28 2010 09:23 L wrote:

I think the idea is specifically to get away from a master ranking. Instead of worrying about how good you are compared to all possible players, focus on being the best out of your small pool.

That kinda mimicks the way SC started off as a game friends would play; you'd try to be the best out of your friends, then from there move to better and better pools sequentially.

On February 28 2010 08:59 Jyvblamo wrote:
The point difference between Naugrim and mTwMFkAra should be evidence enough that your point ranking is only absolute within your own division. Which kind of annoys me, since it becomes very hard to compare players from different divisions.

On February 28 2010 09:40 ven wrote:
Aren't the divisions supposed to be stacked on top of each other rather than lined up in parallel? Comparing ratings across divisions is useless as even the last person in division one is higher ranked globally than any person in any other of the divisions no matter their rating.
This relation is obviously skewed in such an early phase with players getting added to the system in waves.

I might be wrong but a league system with multiple parallel leagues sounds completely illogical to me which is why I never even considered that to be a possibility until you guys started comparing ratings across divisions.

On February 28 2010 09:53 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Nah, the divisions are parallel, the leagues are stacked however.

On February 28 2010 10:09 ven wrote:

Are you sure? Then why are people getting relegated between divisions and how would Blizzard's statement of "finding you a neighborhood of 100 players of equal skill against whom you will be ranked" still be true if the divisions within a league were all the same?

On February 28 2010 10:38 ven wrote:
10 placement matches on an already skewed distribution resulting from the low playerpool might slot you into the wrong division and as far as I remember you only get to move across divisions in some kind of interval unless there are special circumstances.
If the ladder does work this way the divisions will correct themselves upon one of the first transitions or whatever you call them.

On March 05 2010 01:57 aqui wrote:
how come the leader in my gold division has more points(1700-1800 ish) than orly who leads a plat div? also does anyone know how the placement system works? i was downgraded to gold after winning 3 matches

On March 05 2010 02:07 Nafaltar wrote:
Ok div number 9 added aswell. Player count per divison is currently:
Div #1 83 // #2 55 // #3 72 // #4 34 // #5 63 // #6 22 // #7 13 // #8 40 // #9 39

On March 05 2010 02:06 G.s)NarutO wrote:
The point system makes no sense too. I played white-ra today and even though he was favored and is about 300 points higher than me I only got 25 points. (12 for win, 6 for him being favored, 9 bonus pool) and I dont even have a bonus pool :-/!

Edit: Note to FrozenArbiter -> Desis is WOW ex SK Gaming and HasuObs is Wc3 mouz.

Div 8:
MorroW - BW
Himan - Unknown
Mastahkillah - Unknown

On March 05 2010 02:01 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Div 6:
Nazgul - BW
Kara - BW
Chi - Unknown

On March 05 2010 02:11 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Damnit, I actually know who hasuobs is - no idea why I wrote BW ^^ Fixed ty.

Btw, I don't recognize ANYONE in Div 9 :s

On March 05 2010 02:49 EvilSky wrote:
What does bonus pool mean ?

On March 05 2010 02:44 DorF wrote:
If i wud've been in division 9 then I'd be number 1 :p
Is that division just started or soemthing cuz the highest score is really low (I'm 24th in division3 with almost 1500)

Btw holy shit at runa :D

On March 05 2010 04:35 G.s)NarutO wrote:


If you don't ladder a few days you get a bonus pool and climb the ladder faster because for every win you get some points from the bonus pool.(for good players..)

On March 05 2010 05:08 FrozenArbiter wrote:

Smaller divisions gain points slower ;/

On March 05 2010 02:44 DorF wrote:
If i wud've been in division 9 then I'd be number 1 :p
Is that division just started or soemthing cuz the highest score is really low (I'm 24th in division3 with almost 1500)

Btw holy shit at runa :D

On March 05 2010 06:52 MorroW wrote:

i fail to believe that

source?

i think all divisions gain pts just as quickly, i just think there r divisions to divide us to make newbs say yay im 1st in my div and for tournament purposes

On March 05 2010 04:35 G.s)NarutO wrote:


If you don't ladder a few days you get a bonus pool and climb the ladder faster because for every win you get some points from the bonus pool.(for good players..)

On February 28 2010 07:38 FrozenArbiter wrote:
RunA's record is wtf insane. That's a lot of games - can't be just one person?

On March 05 2010 08:08 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:

When I was 1600 I played Nightend at 2000 and was rated a favorite, probably because I'm #1 in my division and he's not (was #2 behind runa) or something weird like that. Same for when I played Jinro when he was 1850 and I was 1600 and many other examples.

I gained 5 points for beating Himan #2 of your division at 1700 today, etc etc. I don't know the system but it seems people from smaller divisions are getting less points. I think it's so that when new people get added to the smaller division the spread is not too big when they enter.

On March 07 2010 01:48 IdrA wrote:
theres no way, its obvious that larger divisions inflate ranks somehow.
ya, someone can have a worse record but have more points if they happened to play and beat higher ranked players, but having it hold true for entire divisions in just about every case?

On March 07 2010 17:57 Alur wrote:
EU Platinum Div 10 screenshot @ 10:00 AM (CET)
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 05 2010 04:35 G.s)NarutO wrote:


If you don't ladder a few days you get a bonus pool and climb the ladder faster because for every win you get some points from the bonus pool.(for good players..)

On March 07 2010 21:27 iCCup.deL wrote:
Wow Europe servers are way more stacked than USA :D Can't wait to check out Asia.

Nice to see a strong WC3 representation with it being Europe (and there being no good American WC3 players). Lots of familiar names holding the top few positions.

On March 07 2010 21:43 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:


Could you ever stop your patriotistic bullshit?

On March 07 2010 21:58 iCCup.deL wrote:

By stacked I mean individual divisions are stacked with more good players in one, whereas in NA they are spread out. Obviously we can't comment on who has the better players because they can't play one and other at the moment.

On March 21 2010 22:41 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Division #7 Terran leader now ME :D!

In front of 1 Protoss and 6 Zergs! FUCK YEAH-_-

On March 21 2010 22:47 MorroW wrote:

nice bump