EPThttp://sclegacy.com/news/23-sc2/529-igromir-2009-starcraft-ii-coverage-day-1
I 'spose it's not surprising, but it's still disheartening.
Beta pushed back to 2010 T_T
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[wh]_ForAlways
United States235 Posts
http://sclegacy.com/news/23-sc2/529-igromir-2009-starcraft-ii-coverage-day-1 I 'spose it's not surprising, but it's still disheartening. | ||
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Always
United States376 Posts
Crud. edit: thanks for the update though. | ||
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
 ((((((((((((((((((((((well, at least it gives me time to get my schoolwork sorted | ||
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ForTheSwarm
United States556 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:25 Megalisk wrote: Long live Brood War! Ha ha, +1. SC2 Release date pushed back to [whenever WoW dies] | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:26 Median wrote: Excellent. The more time they spend on it, the better. You realize it's only being held back because they haven't finished Bnet 2.0? The actual game is ready for beta =[ | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
I was really hoping they were just waiting for the conversion of WoW accounts to BNet to release the beta. Guess it's gonna be longer... | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + duh broodwar when I first heard they were pushing beta back (repeatedly) I was upset cause I wanted to play sooo bad. But now I feel like "whatev" cause I fell back in love with Broodwar. Largely in part to iccup and the awesome tl.net. I feel like im playing a new game everytime I play. And following pro/foreigner SC is just so amazing. So.... in short thank you teamliquid! | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:47 DyEnasTy wrote: Hey gives us more time with the best rts game ever! + Show Spoiler + duh broodwar when I first heard they were pushing beta back (repeatedly) I was upset cause I wanted to play sooo bad. But now I feel like "whatev" cause I fell back in love with Broodwar. Largely in part to iccup and the awesome tl.net. I feel like im playing a new game everytime I play. And following pro/foreigner SC is just so amazing. So.... in short thank you teamliquid! That is actually really awesome to hear/read :D I am happy people can still come back or start appreciating the game for how amazing it is. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:49 29 fps wrote: pushed back several more times, then canceled? like sc ghost? DONT EVEN SAY THAT OMG | ||
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Singapore66357 Posts
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Ranix
United States666 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:49 29 fps wrote: pushed back several more times, then canceled? like sc ghost? Wait.. can that even happen at this stage? I mean I guess it is possible. | ||
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United States17423 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
if it gets canceled i will cry. >:[ | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:49 29 fps wrote: pushed back several more times, then canceled? like sc ghost? hopefully not, even if the multiplayer isn't good enough to replace brood war on the esports scene i still want to see what happens in the campaign | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On November 08 2009 13:01 David Mudkips wrote: Wait.. can that even happen at this stage? I mean I guess it is possible. only in the ridiculously unlikely situation that it's pushed back for another ~2/3 years by that time they probably would restart everything or just give up cause the graphics and everything would be horribly outdated | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:32 FrozenArbiter wrote: You realize it's only being held back because they haven't finished Bnet 2.0? The actual game is ready for beta =[ nope, they just removed roach's moving while burrowed, which sounds like a pretty big (balancing) change. in addition, WoW is supposed to move to b.net 2.0 on november 11. And I think WoW has more players than sc2 beta. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:49 29 fps wrote: pushed back several more times, then canceled? like sc ghost? Get the hell out. Don't even say that. AUGH you've crushed my heart. Why.. T_____T | ||
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yhnmk
Canada630 Posts
I don't consider this a project thats taken like, 5 years, or 4 or however many they've actually been making it for, as far as I'm concerned, starcraft 2 is over a decade overdue. Therefore, the normal patience I have for blizzard games...kinda diminished. | ||
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ItsPaul
Australia177 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:47 DyEnasTy wrote: Hey gives us more time with the best rts game ever! + Show Spoiler + duh broodwar when I first heard they were pushing beta back (repeatedly) I was upset cause I wanted to play sooo bad. But now I feel like "whatev" cause I fell back in love with Broodwar. Largely in part to iccup and the awesome tl.net. I feel like im playing a new game everytime I play. And following pro/foreigner SC is just so amazing. So.... in short thank you teamliquid! this times a thousand | ||
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PrideNeverDies
Kazakhstan74 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 08 2009 13:13 Assault_1 wrote: nope, they just removed roach's moving while burrowed, which sounds like a pretty big (balancing) change. in addition, WoW is supposed to move to b.net 2.0 on november 11. And I think WoW has more players than sc2 beta. No, it sounds like a pretty tiny balancing change lol Seriously, they change this stuff every god damn week. The game is 100% ready for beta, they've even said so themselves. Why do you think they were saying they were gonna release beta during the summer, then said they had to push it back due to battle.net 2.0 problems? At this point there are 2 potential issues: 1 - Single Player is more than 6 months away from being ready, thus they can't start beta because there'd be too big a gap between beta and release. 2 - Battle.net 2.0 is not ready. Pick one. | ||
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Highways
Australia6105 Posts
Even if its just vsing computers. | ||
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China10252 Posts
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On November 08 2009 13:25 Highways wrote: Blizzard should release a demo to compensate for this. Even if its just vsing computers. | ||
Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On November 08 2009 13:25 Highways wrote: Blizzard should release a demo to compensate for this. Even if its just vsing computers. That would be a great idea, even just the first mission of the campaign would be awesome. I'd be happy to see something. | ||
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DIMJkE
Bulgaria425 Posts
BTW IgroMir = Game world | ||
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Konni
Germany3044 Posts
I really thought they meant it when they said beta will be out in 2009 | ||
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Sweden5626 Posts
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Canada246 Posts
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United States3824 Posts
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bEsT[Alive]
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Intangible. | ||
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ocoini
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On November 08 2009 14:04 cgrinker wrote: What's Starcraft 2? It's a point-and-click adventure game, featuring Guybrush Threepwood. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:31 MrHoon wrote: wow lol that was expected but nonetheless disappointing | ||
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Chile4253 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9104 Posts
edit: Oh the beta won't even start until 2010? yikes... Says sc2 will still come out during the first half of 2010 though, but I'm not quite sure I believe that. | ||
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:32 So no fek wrote: Meh, I'm not sure if I'll care anymore when it finally does come out. >_> +1 | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
well, at least "long live brood war" is good <3 | ||
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Canada19447 Posts
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Captain Peabody
United States3126 Posts
Now, it very well could be true... but I think I'm going to hold off jumping off any bridges until we get some kind of official confirmation here. | ||
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
On November 08 2009 13:42 Archerofaiur wrote: | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=sv&js=y&u=http://forums.goha.ru/showthread.php?p=8389477&sl=ru&tl=en&history_state0= | ||
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
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Canada10211 Posts
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Canada7507 Posts
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
On November 08 2009 15:17 Plexa wrote: Blizzard was probably like, Oh shit! TL is running TSL2 - better dodge that QFT | ||
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Dgtl
Canada889 Posts
On November 08 2009 15:17 Plexa wrote: Blizzard was probably like, Oh shit! TL is running TSL2 - better dodge that Hehe, at least we have that for now. Damn it, they are taking their sweet time with SC2 :/ | ||
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Traveler
United States451 Posts
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Arrian
United States889 Posts
Seriously, why don't they push it to like 2012/13 so they can excite us by moving the date UP? | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On November 08 2009 16:00 Arrian wrote: Quoth a wise netizen of the SC2 forums some time back: "SC2 is going to be a great game, and our grandchildren are going to love playing it" Seriously, why don't they push it to like 2012/13 so they can excite us by moving the date UP? I don't think any form of release date from blizzard excites anybody anymore haha. I'll believe it when I'm holding a copy in my hands. | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
TSL2!!!!!!!! | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27154 Posts
On November 08 2009 15:17 Plexa wrote: Blizzard was probably like, Oh shit! TL is running TSL2 - better dodge that amen. | ||
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Canada974 Posts
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Australia6499 Posts
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copyleft
Romania10 Posts
This doesn't mean that they pushed back the US beta again, it just means that in Russia the beta will come in 2010. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On November 08 2009 16:49 copyleft wrote: I'm sorry but is every single user that posted on this thread braindead?(i haven't read all 4 pages, maybe someone said this already) Blizzard always said that EU and KR beta stages will will start after the US one, since they have to setup up the server infrastructure. This doesn't mean that they pushed back the US beta again, it just means that in Russia the beta will come in 2010. Ah well... 2010 in Russia still means no time soon in North America. | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On November 08 2009 13:21 FrozenArbiter wrote: The game is 100% ready for beta, they've even said so themselves. And Valve said the source code leak was what held back the release of Half Life 2. | ||
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On November 08 2009 15:25 Traveler wrote: This kind of sucks, I mean Blizzard should be taking their time in order to produce a good game and all, but they also run the risk of keeping us waiting and not keeping deadlines thus making some of the fanbase angry. People will forget all about this delay once the game is released. It is way better than releasing the game on time but with obvious imbalance problem, and shitty online match service, because then the fanbase will remeber that for sure. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36379 Posts
hehe are you really going to not play sc2 because of delays? blizzard knows they could delay this for 10 years and it'd sell even more | ||
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[wh]_ForAlways
United States235 Posts
On November 08 2009 16:49 copyleft wrote: I'm sorry but is every single user that posted on this thread braindead?(i haven't read all 4 pages, maybe someone said this already) Blizzard always said that EU and KR beta stages will will start after the US one, since they have to setup up the server infrastructure. This doesn't mean that they pushed back the US beta again, it just means that in Russia the beta will come in 2010. I really want to say this is a very good point, but at the same time I'd rather not get my hopes up ;_; | ||
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Canada2492 Posts
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:32 FrozenArbiter wrote: You realize it's only being held back because they haven't finished Bnet 2.0? The actual game is ready for beta =[ You mean MW 2.0000000000000 | ||
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United States394 Posts
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endGame
United States394 Posts
On November 08 2009 16:49 copyleft wrote: I'm sorry but is every single user that posted on this thread braindead?(i haven't read all 4 pages, maybe someone said this already) Blizzard always said that EU and KR beta stages will will start after the US one, since they have to setup up the server infrastructure. This doesn't mean that they pushed back the US beta again, it just means that in Russia the beta will come in 2010. That's actually an excellent point. | ||
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:32 FrozenArbiter wrote: You realize it's only being held back because they haven't finished Bnet 2.0? The actual game is ready for beta =[ They are still sorting out roach stuff, so no, not exactly. | ||
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Sweden5302 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On November 08 2009 20:37 ProoM wrote: They are still sorting out roach stuff, so no, not exactly. Stop giving out misinformation and please educate yourself with the following articles while you are at it: Starcraft 2 Delayed to 2010 Battle.net, blaimed Battle.net 2.0 Will-Be Like Xbox Live CausedSC2 Delay Starcraft II has been delayed again yet. | ||
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BBS
Germany204 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:31 Spawkuring wrote: I'm going to cry myself to sleep. so do i .. | ||
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
I blame dolphin & whale | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
On November 08 2009 21:46 Gunman_csz wrote: fu dolphinnn! and fu whale! I blame dolphin & whale SHIKEN EN DE KOOOW! | ||
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Italy358 Posts
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Captain Peabody
United States3126 Posts
A: Tomorrow (laughter). Of course not. Usually Blizzard we're not talking about dates. While we plan for next year to do a beta test. As soon as we feel that the game is released we will release it soon. The fact that this is a Google-translated Russian transcription of a live event, the fact that Beta in Russia won't start until 2010 regardless (even if its late November/December here, it's gonna take a while to get everything up and running), and the fact that even in the US, they're still going to be doing the bulk of their Beta testing in 2010 (hence, possibly we're "doing a Beta test" next year...anyone?) all don't exactly add to the veracity of this story. Especially as this is the only source for this "scoop" I've been able to find. Now, again, this could very well be true...but, come on, this just isn't convincing stuff. At all. When Karune or Cydra or someone official confirms it, yeah, I'll be sad. But at this point, I'm becoming less and less convinced of the veracity of this extremely-overhyped-yet-largely-groundless rumor by the moment. Hold your horses, people... | ||
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Switzerland2431 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 08 2009 16:01 251 wrote: FA - aren't they still changing the game pretty frequently though? Unless that's not what you mean by 100% ready for beta? Actually now that I think of it, the Q&As have pretty much stopped. Maybe they're pretty happy with what they got. Meh.. They are gonna change the game during beta as well ;o On November 08 2009 17:40 MamiyaOtaru wrote: And Valve said the source code leak was what held back the release of Half Life 2. Let's consider some facts: 1 - In May~June 2009, Blizzard started sending out beta invites to some handpicked players (you can find a newspost about it here), as well as telling gaming journalists to prepare themselves by making battle.net accounts. 2 - They then followed that up by announcing "beta this summer". 3 - They then cancelled this citing Battle.net 2.0 as the reason, and moved beta to "late 2009". Now, you could be all paranoid about this and think it has something to do with the multiplayer not being ready, but why would you? Everyone who has played the game seems to think it's more or less ready to go into beta, Blizzard are saying it's ready to go into beta... There have been NO big changes to multiplayer in a looooooooong time. When was the last time you saw a unit cut? Aside from the macro mechanics, that are almost a year old by now, when was the last time you saw a new feature? Maybe it's not Battle.net 2.0 that's holding things back, maybe it's single player. Maybe it's Modern Warfare being released and them not wanting to collide with it. Maybe the reading in goats innards suggested they push it back, I don't know, I'm just fairly sure it has nothing to do with multiplayer gameplay. | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:20 Chuiu wrote: Release date pushed back to 2012. the end of the world????  | ||
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[Azn]Nada
United States275 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
this is becoming a farse. They need to get the game out very soon | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On November 08 2009 23:11 Jayson X wrote: tbh i don't care. I still enjoy playing and watching broodwar too much... Same here. There is going to be no progaming for starcraft 2. It's going to die just like WC3 died. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
activision sales politics in action | ||
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Brazil695 Posts
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Wineandbread
United States2065 Posts
Get over it and play moar BW. =P | ||
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
People spend all this time complaining about the parts of the game that suck, then complain when Blizzard delays the beta to spend more time refining it. Good job Blizz! | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On November 09 2009 01:48 Wineandbread wrote: It's never coming out guys Get over it and play moar BW. =P SC: GHOST... dun dun dun FAILURE. | ||
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United States781 Posts
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United States656 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On November 09 2009 02:05 Triple7 wrote: Blizzard probably laughs at the thousands of disappointed fans every time they do this. they probably lose a fan everytime they do this | ||
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France5778 Posts
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Wire
United States494 Posts
for my next not so prediction: release in 2010 as well, approx 3-5 months after beta begins.  | ||
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Cyrox
Sweden147 Posts
Sorry guys ... | ||
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StalkerSC
Canada378 Posts
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England2109 Posts
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fanatacist
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IgroMir = GameWorld | ||
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tarpman
Canada719 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
EDIT: Yeah, just checked, first half -,.- | ||
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Finland1364 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On November 09 2009 03:33 Kennigit wrote: Strange because at the latest activition blizzard press conference they said they are still looking at first quarter 2010 release. Well it is Activision, so maybe beta will now be available in stores for the low price of 49.99 | ||
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Canada110 Posts
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On November 09 2009 04:47 AdunToridas wrote: Once upon a time, many, many years ago, I had the opinion that Blizzard was cool. I still have that opinion, but damn the wait is always so painful. | ||
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Pape
Serbia419 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
On November 09 2009 06:07 Pape wrote: LMAO I'm not even buying this game when it comes out now... seriously I'm getting modern warfare 2 when it comes out tuesday and than battlefield bad company 2 when it comes out in the spring and thats it for my gaming days. Those games are so much better and fun than this overhyped POS will ever be. Long live broodwar, sadly this game will never be as fun as broodwar. Obviously it must be economically for them to spend so much time on this game when you bet they will not only be drawing the $60 x 3 times from loving bw fans from this game it will also be reaching in your pocket at every corner of bnet 2.0. The long wait is probably just a time delay to let more people forget about BW and than when they release starcraft 2 everybody wants to go buy and play. Infinity ward was killed by activision and now its blizzard turn and I do blame all of this on greedy activision. But F them they are not getting a penny from me for this. okay. If you are buying MW2 because you love it, wouldn't that be obvious you will be paying for $60 x 3 if MW 3 and 4 are coming out in the future? and use "then", not than | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:49 29 fps wrote: pushed back several more times, then canceled? like sc ghost? Won't happen. Blizzard invested a shitton in this game, they will not let go and RTS is their domain anyway. Both Ghost and Warcraft quest games were sort of an experimental projects while SC2 is their main plan for moneymaking. | ||
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Re-Play-
Dominican Republic825 Posts
and save money to buy a new PC too | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
>_< | ||
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Canada1268 Posts
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
On November 09 2009 10:14 Mobius wrote: only a month left till 2010 anyways. link didnt work for me btw Much closer to two months. And it's not like it's gonna be on Jan 1st, 12:01 am. | ||
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XThunderyX
United States367 Posts
On November 09 2009 10:25 m3rciless wrote: Much closer to two months. And it's not like it's gonna be on Jan 1st, 12:01 am. How do YOU know? ;P | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
I mean they could use some better organization, maybe, or just start developing even earlier and release news even later. But few other companies seem to operate like this and it seems to show in the quallity of products. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On November 09 2009 09:54 FrozenArbiter wrote: ... I already bought a new PC (or well, upgraded my old one aka replacing most things that matter) this summer, you know after they said "hey guys, beta this summer, for sure!". >_< If its any consilation it will be time to upgrade again by the time Beta comes out. | ||
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Bulgaria4824 Posts
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On November 09 2009 11:50 hyst.eric.al wrote: this beta better cure cancer. srsly | ||
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Canada427 Posts
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
On November 09 2009 11:56 Equaoh wrote: Good, they'll have time to rethink some of the stupid unit models TBH if they couldn't get it right in 7 years, it isn't going to happen. Whoever their lead art designer is just has bad taste, it's probably Samwise I would assume. No matter what the issue is that's causing the delay, I would guess that they are already working on the first expansion because it seems completely impossible that the art team and all the other teams would have something to work on still. Also, imo they should just skip beta and launch the game imbalanced. Maybe do a 2 week stress test for bnet 2.0 then launch. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
rofl hahahahaha. It could totally happen! "We have decided to cancel development on sc2 to allocate resources toward more wow expansions" | ||
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
Though comprehend-able, this news is very dissapointng. | ||
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
On November 08 2009 14:26 Kennigit wrote: TSl2 time baby LOL fuckin A | ||
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Drowsy
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Pape
Serbia419 Posts
On November 09 2009 06:10 anch wrote: okay. If you are buying MW2 because you love it, wouldn't that be obvious you will be paying for $60 x 3 if MW 3 and 4 are coming out in the future? and use "then", not than im sorry i speak 4 languages english not being my first and sometimes you have to understand this is a international community | ||
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Canada5449 Posts
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On November 09 2009 15:24 DeCoup wrote: During Blizzcon Mike Morhaime said beta would start this year despite the delay, so this news is another delay for those expecting beta based off Morhaime's Blizzcon talk.There has only been 1 delay (the initial half way thru next year release delay), This info was not a further delay it was a 'no shit... The game is delayed theirfore the beta is'. I don't know why everyone is so supprised that the beta will start later to coincide with the games release. They shouldn't have needed to tell you the beta was also delayed with the whole game... It should have been obvious. They said they planned 4-6 months for beta and a 2010 beta will do just that. | ||
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United States3668 Posts
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
On November 09 2009 15:31 Tsagacity wrote: During Blizzcon Mike Morhaime said beta would start this year despite the delay, so this news is another delay for those expecting beta based off Morhaime's Blizzcon talk. Ah ok, so is this new beta delay announcement refering to the beta as a whole? Or that the Russians will get beta in 2010? Because North America and Australia are suppose to get beta first, and this quote did come out of a Q&A in Russia. I know i'm just trying to be optimistic.. but do you think (or is there anyone that is fluent enough to do their own translation) that they could have been refering to the start of the Russian beta not the entire beta process? | ||
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Orphan
Australia49 Posts
On November 09 2009 16:55 DeCoup wrote: Ah ok, so is this new beta delay announcement refering to the beta as a whole? Or that the Russians will get beta in 2010? Because North America and Australia are suppose to get beta first, and this quote did come out of a Q&A in Russia. I know i'm just trying to be optimistic.. but do you think (or is there anyone that is fluent enough to do their own translation) that they could have been refering to the start of the Russian beta not the entire beta process? It sounds like everyone is delayed until 2010 unfortunately. If it was Russians only then the answer would have probably specified it abit further, but instead they simply said that the beta will be released in 2010, which would sound like it's the entire thing. | ||
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Boertie
Netherlands98 Posts
It is because the whole bliz staff is going to play TSL2! | ||
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
On November 09 2009 06:07 Pape wrote: LMAO I'm not even buying this game when it comes out now... seriously I'm getting modern warfare 2 when it comes out tuesday and than battlefield bad company 2 when it comes out in the spring and thats it for my gaming days. Those games are so much better and fun than this overhyped POS will ever be. Long live broodwar, sadly this game will never be as fun as broodwar. Obviously it must be economically for them to spend so much time on this game when you bet they will not only be drawing the $60 x 3 times from loving bw fans from this game it will also be reaching in your pocket at every corner of bnet 2.0. The long wait is probably just a time delay to let more people forget about BW and than when they release starcraft 2 everybody wants to go buy and play. Infinity ward was killed by activision and now its blizzard turn and I do blame all of this on greedy activision. But F them they are not getting a penny from me for this. [sarcasm] I love it how logical and well thought-out this post is. Let us review: 1. He states that two yet unreleased games are much better and fun then a third yet unreleased game. 2. He claims that SC2 is an "overhyped POS", even though Modern Warfare 2 is the game with the biggest marketing campaign in gaming history (cheap tricks, such as intentional controversy, included). 3. He states that a yet unreleased game will never be as fun as a game that has already existed for a decade. 4. He repeats the old "60$x3" rhetoric, even though expansion packs never cost as much as a regular retail copy. 5. He implies that delaying SC2 will make people forget about BW, even though it was the sequel`s announcement that has prompted people to take up BW again and that further delay of the sequel will just make more people attached to BW. Yes, this is one quality post... [/sarcasm] | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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Pape
Serbia419 Posts
On November 09 2009 21:28 Tom Phoenix wrote: [sarcasm] I love it how logical and well thought-out this post is. Let us review: 1. He states that two yet unreleased games are much better and fun then a third yet unreleased game. 2. He claims that SC2 is an "overhyped POS", even though Modern Warfare 2 is the game with the biggest marketing campaign in gaming history (cheap tricks, such as intentional controversy, included). 3. He states that a yet unreleased game will never be as fun as a game that has already existed for a decade. 4. He repeats the old "60$x3" rhetoric, even though expansion packs never cost as much as a regular retail copy. 5. He implies that delaying SC2 will make people forget about BW, even though it was the sequel`s announcement that has prompted people to take up BW again and that further delay of the sequel will just make more people attached to BW. Yes, this is one quality post... [/sarcasm] haha wow nice can i have youre fucking signature man? please man? please?? everybody here drools your intelligence wait wait wait i hope youre not one of those guys nooo you cant be. wow man i really admire you and i bet everybody just sees how much brighter you are than all of the people you quote and correct on a daily basis. I seriously don't understand why you do not leave my rant alone and focus on your own opinion. | ||
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iSiN
United States1075 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On November 09 2009 21:28 Tom Phoenix wrote: [sarcasm] I love it how logical and well thought-out this post is. Let us review: 1. He states that two yet unreleased games are much better and fun then a third yet unreleased game. 2. He claims that SC2 is an "overhyped POS", even though Modern Warfare 2 is the game with the biggest marketing campaign in gaming history (cheap tricks, such as intentional controversy, included). 3. He states that a yet unreleased game will never be as fun as a game that has already existed for a decade. 4. He repeats the old "60$x3" rhetoric, even though expansion packs never cost as much as a regular retail copy. 5. He implies that delaying SC2 will make people forget about BW, even though it was the sequel`s announcement that has prompted people to take up BW again and that further delay of the sequel will just make more people attached to BW. Yes, this is one quality post... [/sarcasm] Also, what kind of idiot would buy modern warfare 2 and battlefield bad company 2 and not buy SC2   | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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FusionCutter
Canada974 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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beetlelisk
Poland2276 Posts
and yea I have more time to actually accomplish anything in terms of SC skill ;; | ||
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Pape
Serbia419 Posts
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homeless_guy
United States321 Posts
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AssiRoyal
Germany216 Posts
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
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NeSeNVi
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Manit0u
Poland17431 Posts
At least give me D3 before that. | ||
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AdunToridas
Germany380 Posts
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On November 10 2009 21:35 AdunToridas wrote: I'm still convinced that StarCraft 2 is the biggest April's Fools joke in the history of video gaming. In fact this game doesn't even exist, every screenshot has been pre-rendered and everybody who says that he played it on BlizzCON lies. Everybody. Happy April 2010. lol that would be an epic troll. I'm feeling a late 2011 early 2012 release date for the final game. | ||
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NguN
Australia1322 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
On November 10 2009 22:41 NguN wrote: Bisu's got another chance at the OSL! lol that was the first thing i thought too | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2802 Posts
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Kleander
United States334 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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EsX_Raptor
United States2802 Posts
On November 11 2009 04:17 Slaughter wrote: We all know that Blizz isn't developing a game, they are developing their biogenetics project where they are creating and breeding zerg to take over the world. Aaah! Now I get it! That's why Blizzard is partnered with EPIC Weapons ™ they are the ones building the Psy Emitter. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
In fact blizz, just postpone this game until summer 2013 and let me graduate with a 4.0 - then I'll buy it. | ||
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dcttr66
United States555 Posts
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iSiN
United States1075 Posts
On November 11 2009 05:46 dcttr66 wrote: i think sc2 keeps getting pushed back becuase me getting a girlfriend keeps getting pushed back...blizzard wants me to win the race...what happens first, me get a girfriend or sc2 come out... Lets be honest if you don't have a gf b4 sc2 comes out you're not gonna get one. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On November 11 2009 05:46 dcttr66 wrote: i think sc2 keeps getting pushed back becuase me getting a girlfriend keeps getting pushed back...blizzard wants me to win the race...what happens first, me get a girfriend or sc2 come out... if only it was that simple TT | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On November 11 2009 04:24 EsX_Raptor wrote: Aaah! Now I get it! That's why Blizzard is partnered with EPIC Weapons ™ they are the ones building the Psy Emitter. Psi psy is from pokemon -.- and ya, of course from many other games as well, but i picked the dumbest so as to display my superior reasoning for correction | ||
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bramstokersc2
United States12 Posts
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UCD2
United States109 Posts
blizzard style | ||
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
the new street fighter, FFXIII, Gran Turismo 5 and The Last Guardian are going to be taking up all my time early 2010. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Orphan
Australia49 Posts
On November 11 2009 18:30 CharlieMurphy wrote: so is this confirmed for North America? or was this just a russia thing? I'm not sure anything has been confirmed yet, although that isn't to say it's wrong. I guess what I'm trying to say is that when it was clear SC2 wasn't going to be released this year, Blizzard put up an announcement on the battle.net forums. I expect the same would happen for the beta especially considering all the times in the past where they "confirmed" that it would happen 2009. In a sense, because they haven't posted anything yet it might mean that are still optimistic of a 2009 beta release. Either that, or the public isn't even worth it anymore to bother such an announcement. Given the silence with the recent activities, either scenario could be true. | ||
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theron[wdt]
United States395 Posts
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Grendor
United States70 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On November 11 2009 21:08 Grendor wrote: I must be the stupidest of all, saving my vaction two years in a row until the very end in the off chance there would be a beta. I should have spent that time with the bikini's this last summer. I'm in this boat. Now I have a ton of vacation days to find a place to use for work. ...I guess that's not so bad though, wish I could have gone on the summer trips with my friends though.  | ||
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timmeh
Austria177 Posts
On November 11 2009 22:54 Torenhire wrote: I'm in this boat. Now I have a ton of vacation days to find a place to use for work. ...I guess that's not so bad though, wish I could have gone on the summer trips with my friends though. Yes, you both are stupid | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
don't be mad they have jobs | ||
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
He was talking about beta in general and not specifically about a Russian beta. About Mike Morhaime contradicting that. Where did you read it? Don't remember him saying anything other that the development team is working hard towards beta - which they in fact are. This does not contradict Chris' statement though. Also crushes the speculation that he was only referring to Russian beta as well. | ||
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HiOT
Sweden1000 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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annYeong(o11)
Canada784 Posts
It hurts to hear that they are working with fan feedback and they know the best fan feedback is gongi to come after they give us the beta. until then we don't really know shit in terms of balance and feel. Theorycrafting can only go so far. | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
does it really take this long to implement LAN over internet? | ||
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Hehlol
22 Posts
On November 13 2009 20:31 PobTheCad wrote: this bnet 2.0 doesn't even have freaking chat lobbies does it really take this long to implement LAN over internet? Shut up and get on with your life. You're so stupid I doubt you realize just how much goes into making a video game of this caliber. Get on with your life, SC2 will come out when it's ready and you'll buy it like the bitch you are. | ||
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immacolate
Serbia199 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:32 FrozenArbiter wrote: You realize it's only being held back because they haven't finished Bnet 2.0? The actual game is ready for beta =[ based on battle reports, the actual game sucks, and no matter how long they postpone beta, it will still suck unless some major changes are made. good thing is that at least someone in blizzard seems to be aware of this problem. | ||
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 14 2009 00:40 Hehlol wrote: Shut up and get on with your life. You're so stupid I doubt you realize just how much goes into making a video game of this caliber. Get on with your life, SC2 will come out when it's ready and you'll buy it like the bitch you are. Are you trying to get banned? Make your point without calling people stupid -_- | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On November 14 2009 00:40 Hehlol wrote: Shut up and get on with your life. You're so stupid I doubt you realize just how much goes into making a video game of this caliber. Get on with your life, SC2 will come out when it's ready and you'll buy it like the bitch you are. i won't be buying SC2 , don't like the direction blizzard or the game is heading personally keep making those judgements though if it makes you feel better about yourself..... | ||
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cerebralz
United States443 Posts
I don't know if that's something that can be checked up on, but multi-national legal problems could be a source of delay without reason. | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On November 14 2009 08:37 cerebralz wrote: Personally, i think there are some unspoken legal conflicts that are holding things back. Stuff with ratings and copyright and such. I could be wrong, but that's the only thing that comes to mind with a delay such as this. The game does seem to be beta ready and yes, bnet 2.0 doesn't seem like that much of a stretch, unless theyre trying to develop their own software, or build infrastructure or something. I don't know if that's something that can be checked up on, but multi-national legal problems could be a source of delay without reason. just a theory but are they releasing a foreign language (eg korean) beta as well as the english? this may be slowing them down? | ||
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Dav_
Hungary236 Posts
november 2009 SC2 first half of 2010 WoW: cataclysm 3.3(will be released this or next month) is supposed to be the last content patch for WoW http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20464486377&postId=203051101516&sid=1#1 after the last content patch usualy takes half year to release the next expansion. so 2010 june... if the WoW exp will be released in june than there is no way SC2 comes out in the first half of 2010 if SC2 comes out in the first half of 2010(beta in jan or feb) they need to delay the WoW exp and release another content patch. WoW ppl will cry so it's unlikely one thing is certain. they need to release a beta early next year. if it's the WoW exp beta we are fucked and SC2 will be released in Q4 2010:s | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On November 14 2009 19:25 Dav_ wrote: if SC2 comes out in the first half of 2010(beta in jan or feb) they need to delay the WoW exp and release another content patch. WoW ppl will cry so it's unlikely man let them cry no new blizzard games this year that will make it 6 years since the last blizzard game when one comes out next year 2004>2010.too long to wait , but the WOW people have had plenty of expansions and patches to keep them occupied , people wanting something else/new have been waiting....and waiting... | ||
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EximoSua
171 Posts
On November 14 2009 01:02 immacolate wrote: based on battle reports, the actual game sucks, and no matter how long they postpone beta, it will still suck unless some major changes are made. good thing is that at least someone in blizzard seems to be aware of this problem. I've been temp banned for less than this. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On November 14 2009 21:40 PobTheCad wrote: man let them cry no new blizzard games this year that will make it 6 years since the last blizzard game when one comes out next year 2004>2010.too long to wait , but the WOW people have had plenty of expansions and patches to keep them occupied , people wanting something else/new have been waiting....and waiting... Why is everyone acting like WoW and SC2 are linked in development? The development teams for the two games are *entirely* separate. Do you think they could have gotten this far without having separate teams? WoW has been in development constantly since it's been released, if Blizzard couldn't work on other games at the same time they woudn't have even gotten this far. As for waiting, you must not be used to pre-launch game hype, let along Blizzard pre-launch game hype. It's pretty much the definition of waiting. If you don't want to wait, just find something else to do with your extra time than following every step of SC2 development. | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On November 15 2009 00:45 phyvo wrote: They've already admitted before that they pulled SC2 devs for WoW back during the early stages. I believe they're separate most of the time, but honestly they're going to do whatever they have to in order to keep WoW running smoothly. Why is everyone acting like WoW and SC2 are linked in development? The development teams for the two games are *entirely* separate. Do you think they could have gotten this far without having separate teams? WoW has been in development constantly since it's been released, if Blizzard couldn't work on other games at the same time they woudn't have even gotten this far. As for waiting, you must not be used to pre-launch game hype, let along Blizzard pre-launch game hype. It's pretty much the definition of waiting. If you don't want to wait, just find something else to do with your extra time than following every step of SC2 development. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Until they do that, then yes, they can shuffle devs around as much as they want because they do not have to worry about committing to running the beta. If this is the case then I think the biggest delay will in fact be... right now. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On November 15 2009 00:45 phyvo wrote: Why is everyone acting like WoW and SC2 are linked in development? The development teams for the two games are *entirely* separate. Do you think they could have gotten this far without having separate teams? WoW has been in development constantly since it's been released, if Blizzard couldn't work on other games at the same time they woudn't have even gotten this far. As for waiting, you must not be used to pre-launch game hype, let along Blizzard pre-launch game hype. It's pretty much the definition of waiting. If you don't want to wait, just find something else to do with your extra time than following every step of SC2 development. But Blizzard's resources are still finite. Spending more on wow, hiring more staff, putting more money toward development, paying more overtime, buying and maintaining better servers etc, ultimately means less of is spent on similar things for games we at teamliquid prefer. A dollar spent on a wow expansion is a dollar not spent developing starcraft 2. This might not hold true for time since they have separate development teams with separate skills, but it still holds true for money. TL is not the center of the universe, and blizzard makes much more money selling wow subscriptions; it makes more sense for them to spend more time and money on wow, even if it comes at the expense of their other games. I'm still surprised they ever announced sc2 given how successful wow has been. I'm betting that each dollar spent developing and refining wow yields them a higher return than each to be spent on sc2 will end up earning them. Wow just appeals to such a gigantic audience, it doesn't matter if it's a "worse" game. If they manage to secure a pretty sweet deal with broadcasters and sc2 as a competitive televised game grows in popularity, maybe my guess will be wrong(it'll be impossible to find out either way, of course). Remember, the game has to come out like 6-12 months after they begin the beta, so the beta is like a practically finished game. I'm kinda glad they're taking their time refining it. I'd personally rather have them release it later but have a very balanced first ladder season than have them release it earlier and have the first few months of the game's ladder suck balls and be hideously imbalanced (war3). | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On November 14 2009 18:19 PobTheCad wrote: just a theory but are they releasing a foreign language (eg English) beta as well as the english? this may be slowing them down? Fixed Blizzard outsourced the scripting to S. Korea and got Korean voice actors, since there are more customers there and the rest of it's employees can work on WoW. Actually, that would be interesting if the game came out in both languages and you could toggle them as an option. It might make listening to Korean commentators harder for those who don't speak Korean, but... | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
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ERGO
United States168 Posts
All I see is a bunch of people bitching at the company who made the BEST GAME EVER and sold it for 20 bucks and still host the online play ELEVEN YEARS later for FREE, about not making the NEXT best game ever fast and good enough. All I see is a bunch of self styled game theory EXPERTS who think they are smarter than the entire SC2 development team bitching about how bad sc2 is going to be, with only the battle reports to judge by. If you saw Dustin Browder in the street, what would you say to him? Would you run up to him, kick him in the balls, and yell "HOW DARE YOU NOT RELEASE THE BETA ON TIIIIIME?!" You make it sound like blizzard has done you some personal disservice by doing exactly what they always do, and by doing exactly what makes them great. Goddamnit, some of you should really be ashamed of yourselves. | ||
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On November 16 2009 10:22 ERGO wrote: So was it actually confirmed that they pulled people off SC2 to work on WoW? I've heard lots of people say it was confirmed but have NEVER seen any actual confirmation of this. All I see is a bunch of people bitching at the company who made the BEST GAME EVER and sold it for 20 bucks and still host the online play ELEVEN YEARS later for FREE, about not making the NEXT best game ever fast and good enough. All I see is a bunch of self styled game theory EXPERTS who think they are smarter than the entire SC2 development team bitching about how bad sc2 is going to be, with only the battle reports to judge by. If you saw Dustin Browder in the street, what would you say to him? Would you run up to him, kick him in the balls, and yell "HOW DARE YOU NOT RELEASE THE BETA ON TIIIIIME?!" You make it sound like blizzard has done you some personal disservice by doing exactly what they always do, and by doing exactly what makes them great. Goddamnit, some of you should really be ashamed of yourselves. The hate is almost entirely because of WoW, and the inherent negative stereotypes of MMOs and MMO players. WoW is just a game where you kill pigs all day, and the people who are addicted to it lose their lives as they pay monthly fees to Blizzard. Therefore Blizzard is a greed monster who is bent on keeping these people addicted and ignoring the true games they should be developing for the real gamers out there. So anything we see from future blizzard games will be compared to WoW (graphics, gameplay), and people will assume they are trying to fuck everyone over who buys their games ( OMGGG pay2play for battlenet!!!!? END OF THE WORLDDD). And seeing as Blizzard has spent so much time on WoW, it's only reasonable to assume that they have lost all their talent at making balanced RTS games, which gives everyone the right to write enormous analytical articles about a balance problems of an RTS game that is in its alpha stage ------------------------------ in all seriousness, i understand why people are dissapointed with the delays, but all the criticism towards blizzard is sometimes just plain silly. and while WoW is still an excellent game, they really have changed the focus entirely to the casual gamer, which is kind of sad =/ and going to a Blizzcon to find out that 70% of the people there don't even know what Starcraft or Diablo is makes me a sad gamer. | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On November 16 2009 10:22 ERGO wrote: If you're referring to the talk of delays in early development, a number of online articles quote their source as straight from Pardo. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=317499So was it actually confirmed that they pulled people off SC2 to work on WoW? I've heard lots of people say it was confirmed but have NEVER seen any actual confirmation of this. If you're talking about recent delays being WoW-related, that's just individual speculation. Honestly though I wouldn't blame them for pulling SC2 staff to solve WoW emergencies. I can't figure how extra staff from SC2 could bring a faster solution to Chinese WoW problems, but if they did I would fully expect those staff to get pulled. That's just smart business. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On November 15 2009 08:47 Slaughter wrote: Patience is a virtue. shit i'll finish college before it comes out lol | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On November 14 2009 00:40 Hehlol wrote: Shut up and get on with your life. You're so stupid I doubt you realize just how much goes into making a video game of this caliber. Get on with your life, SC2 will come out when it's ready and you'll buy it like the bitch you are. nm mods already saw it. you're still bad tho | ||
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ERGO
United States168 Posts
On November 16 2009 13:21 Tsagacity wrote: If you're referring to the talk of delays in early development, a number of online articles quote their source as straight from Pardo. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=317499. I can't figure how extra staff from SC2 could bring a faster solution to Chinese WoW problems, but if they did I would fully expect those staff to get pulled. That's just smart business. Thanks Tsagacity, but who is pardo? I also do not see how pulling people from sc2 would help with wow. It is a classic mistake of managers who know little of computer science to think that throwing more code writers at a project will make it work better, I should think that blizzard has more class than making that kind of mistake. You don't get to have millions of monthly customers without good management. | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Pardo | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
what issues are they having in china? is it about the gold farmers? | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On November 16 2009 18:33 PobTheCad wrote: I'm not sure how bad it is this time, but over the summer the government essentially shut down WoW in China for a while, which is like half the game's subscription base.im not up to speed on WoW what issues are they having in china? is it about the gold farmers? | ||
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On November 17 2009 04:32 ShivaN wrote: China STILL hasn't gotten WoTLK, WoW's most recent expansion. They're still playing on TBC content and Blizzard's already planning to release their next expansion. I feel bad for China, they've basically missed a whole expansion now. Not to mention the repercussions this had on WoW as an e-sport for them as no Chinese teams have been able to compete in anything due to all this as well. Honestly, some one needs to tell china they should keep playing TBC. WOTLK is just a casual EZ mode | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
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immacolate
Serbia199 Posts
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jeremycafe
United States354 Posts
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SnowFantasy
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On November 16 2009 14:25 StorrZerg wrote: shit i'll finish college before it comes out lol too late for many of us | ||
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jeremycafe
United States354 Posts
On November 20 2009 01:46 SnowFantasy wrote: no skeleteons? wow.. has to do with they way skeletons are viewed in china. I forgot what they symbolize there, but its a no go when it comes to video games. I think things cannot be showing flesh as well (zombies). Cant remember on that one though. There was a article showing images of the two games side by side. | ||
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