EPTdoes it really take this long to implement LAN over internet?
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
does it really take this long to implement LAN over internet? | ||
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Hehlol
22 Posts
On November 13 2009 20:31 PobTheCad wrote: this bnet 2.0 doesn't even have freaking chat lobbies does it really take this long to implement LAN over internet? Shut up and get on with your life. You're so stupid I doubt you realize just how much goes into making a video game of this caliber. Get on with your life, SC2 will come out when it's ready and you'll buy it like the bitch you are. | ||
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immacolate
Serbia199 Posts
On November 08 2009 12:32 FrozenArbiter wrote: You realize it's only being held back because they haven't finished Bnet 2.0? The actual game is ready for beta =[ based on battle reports, the actual game sucks, and no matter how long they postpone beta, it will still suck unless some major changes are made. good thing is that at least someone in blizzard seems to be aware of this problem. | ||
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Gregsen
Germany667 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 14 2009 00:40 Hehlol wrote: Shut up and get on with your life. You're so stupid I doubt you realize just how much goes into making a video game of this caliber. Get on with your life, SC2 will come out when it's ready and you'll buy it like the bitch you are. Are you trying to get banned? Make your point without calling people stupid -_- | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On November 14 2009 00:40 Hehlol wrote: Shut up and get on with your life. You're so stupid I doubt you realize just how much goes into making a video game of this caliber. Get on with your life, SC2 will come out when it's ready and you'll buy it like the bitch you are. i won't be buying SC2 , don't like the direction blizzard or the game is heading personally keep making those judgements though if it makes you feel better about yourself..... | ||
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cerebralz
United States443 Posts
I don't know if that's something that can be checked up on, but multi-national legal problems could be a source of delay without reason. | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On November 14 2009 08:37 cerebralz wrote: Personally, i think there are some unspoken legal conflicts that are holding things back. Stuff with ratings and copyright and such. I could be wrong, but that's the only thing that comes to mind with a delay such as this. The game does seem to be beta ready and yes, bnet 2.0 doesn't seem like that much of a stretch, unless theyre trying to develop their own software, or build infrastructure or something. I don't know if that's something that can be checked up on, but multi-national legal problems could be a source of delay without reason. just a theory but are they releasing a foreign language (eg korean) beta as well as the english? this may be slowing them down? | ||
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Dav_
Hungary236 Posts
november 2009 SC2 first half of 2010 WoW: cataclysm 3.3(will be released this or next month) is supposed to be the last content patch for WoW http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20464486377&postId=203051101516&sid=1#1 after the last content patch usualy takes half year to release the next expansion. so 2010 june... if the WoW exp will be released in june than there is no way SC2 comes out in the first half of 2010 if SC2 comes out in the first half of 2010(beta in jan or feb) they need to delay the WoW exp and release another content patch. WoW ppl will cry so it's unlikely  one thing is certain. they need to release a beta early next year. if it's the WoW exp beta we are fucked and SC2 will be released in Q4 2010:s | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On November 14 2009 19:25 Dav_ wrote: if SC2 comes out in the first half of 2010(beta in jan or feb) they need to delay the WoW exp and release another content patch. WoW ppl will cry so it's unlikely man let them cry no new blizzard games this year that will make it 6 years since the last blizzard game when one comes out next year 2004>2010.too long to wait , but the WOW people have had plenty of expansions and patches to keep them occupied , people wanting something else/new have been waiting....and waiting... | ||
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EximoSua
171 Posts
On November 14 2009 01:02 immacolate wrote: based on battle reports, the actual game sucks, and no matter how long they postpone beta, it will still suck unless some major changes are made. good thing is that at least someone in blizzard seems to be aware of this problem. I've been temp banned for less than this. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On November 14 2009 21:40 PobTheCad wrote: man let them cry no new blizzard games this year that will make it 6 years since the last blizzard game when one comes out next year 2004>2010.too long to wait , but the WOW people have had plenty of expansions and patches to keep them occupied , people wanting something else/new have been waiting....and waiting... Why is everyone acting like WoW and SC2 are linked in development? The development teams for the two games are *entirely* separate. Do you think they could have gotten this far without having separate teams? WoW has been in development constantly since it's been released, if Blizzard couldn't work on other games at the same time they woudn't have even gotten this far. As for waiting, you must not be used to pre-launch game hype, let along Blizzard pre-launch game hype. It's pretty much the definition of waiting. If you don't want to wait, just find something else to do with your extra time than following every step of SC2 development. | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On November 15 2009 00:45 phyvo wrote: They've already admitted before that they pulled SC2 devs for WoW back during the early stages. I believe they're separate most of the time, but honestly they're going to do whatever they have to in order to keep WoW running smoothly. Why is everyone acting like WoW and SC2 are linked in development? The development teams for the two games are *entirely* separate. Do you think they could have gotten this far without having separate teams? WoW has been in development constantly since it's been released, if Blizzard couldn't work on other games at the same time they woudn't have even gotten this far. As for waiting, you must not be used to pre-launch game hype, let along Blizzard pre-launch game hype. It's pretty much the definition of waiting. If you don't want to wait, just find something else to do with your extra time than following every step of SC2 development. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Until they do that, then yes, they can shuffle devs around as much as they want because they do not have to worry about committing to running the beta. If this is the case then I think the biggest delay will in fact be... right now. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On November 15 2009 00:45 phyvo wrote: Why is everyone acting like WoW and SC2 are linked in development? The development teams for the two games are *entirely* separate. Do you think they could have gotten this far without having separate teams? WoW has been in development constantly since it's been released, if Blizzard couldn't work on other games at the same time they woudn't have even gotten this far. As for waiting, you must not be used to pre-launch game hype, let along Blizzard pre-launch game hype. It's pretty much the definition of waiting. If you don't want to wait, just find something else to do with your extra time than following every step of SC2 development. But Blizzard's resources are still finite. Spending more on wow, hiring more staff, putting more money toward development, paying more overtime, buying and maintaining better servers etc, ultimately means less of is spent on similar things for games we at teamliquid prefer. A dollar spent on a wow expansion is a dollar not spent developing starcraft 2. This might not hold true for time since they have separate development teams with separate skills, but it still holds true for money. TL is not the center of the universe, and blizzard makes much more money selling wow subscriptions; it makes more sense for them to spend more time and money on wow, even if it comes at the expense of their other games. I'm still surprised they ever announced sc2 given how successful wow has been. I'm betting that each dollar spent developing and refining wow yields them a higher return than each to be spent on sc2 will end up earning them. Wow just appeals to such a gigantic audience, it doesn't matter if it's a "worse" game. If they manage to secure a pretty sweet deal with broadcasters and sc2 as a competitive televised game grows in popularity, maybe my guess will be wrong(it'll be impossible to find out either way, of course). Remember, the game has to come out like 6-12 months after they begin the beta, so the beta is like a practically finished game. I'm kinda glad they're taking their time refining it. I'd personally rather have them release it later but have a very balanced first ladder season than have them release it earlier and have the first few months of the game's ladder suck balls and be hideously imbalanced (war3). | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On November 14 2009 18:19 PobTheCad wrote: just a theory but are they releasing a foreign language (eg English) beta as well as the english? this may be slowing them down? Fixed Blizzard outsourced the scripting to S. Korea and got Korean voice actors, since there are more customers there and the rest of it's employees can work on WoW. Actually, that would be interesting if the game came out in both languages and you could toggle them as an option. It might make listening to Korean commentators harder for those who don't speak Korean, but... | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
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ERGO
United States168 Posts
All I see is a bunch of people bitching at the company who made the BEST GAME EVER and sold it for 20 bucks and still host the online play ELEVEN YEARS later for FREE, about not making the NEXT best game ever fast and good enough. All I see is a bunch of self styled game theory EXPERTS who think they are smarter than the entire SC2 development team bitching about how bad sc2 is going to be, with only the battle reports to judge by. If you saw Dustin Browder in the street, what would you say to him? Would you run up to him, kick him in the balls, and yell "HOW DARE YOU NOT RELEASE THE BETA ON TIIIIIME?!" You make it sound like blizzard has done you some personal disservice by doing exactly what they always do, and by doing exactly what makes them great. Goddamnit, some of you should really be ashamed of yourselves. | ||
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eMbrace
United States1300 Posts
On November 16 2009 10:22 ERGO wrote: So was it actually confirmed that they pulled people off SC2 to work on WoW? I've heard lots of people say it was confirmed but have NEVER seen any actual confirmation of this. All I see is a bunch of people bitching at the company who made the BEST GAME EVER and sold it for 20 bucks and still host the online play ELEVEN YEARS later for FREE, about not making the NEXT best game ever fast and good enough. All I see is a bunch of self styled game theory EXPERTS who think they are smarter than the entire SC2 development team bitching about how bad sc2 is going to be, with only the battle reports to judge by. If you saw Dustin Browder in the street, what would you say to him? Would you run up to him, kick him in the balls, and yell "HOW DARE YOU NOT RELEASE THE BETA ON TIIIIIME?!" You make it sound like blizzard has done you some personal disservice by doing exactly what they always do, and by doing exactly what makes them great. Goddamnit, some of you should really be ashamed of yourselves. The hate is almost entirely because of WoW, and the inherent negative stereotypes of MMOs and MMO players. WoW is just a game where you kill pigs all day, and the people who are addicted to it lose their lives as they pay monthly fees to Blizzard. Therefore Blizzard is a greed monster who is bent on keeping these people addicted and ignoring the true games they should be developing for the real gamers out there. So anything we see from future blizzard games will be compared to WoW (graphics, gameplay), and people will assume they are trying to fuck everyone over who buys their games ( OMGGG pay2play for battlenet!!!!? END OF THE WORLDDD). And seeing as Blizzard has spent so much time on WoW, it's only reasonable to assume that they have lost all their talent at making balanced RTS games, which gives everyone the right to write enormous analytical articles about a balance problems of an RTS game that is in its alpha stage ------------------------------ in all seriousness, i understand why people are dissapointed with the delays, but all the criticism towards blizzard is sometimes just plain silly. and while WoW is still an excellent game, they really have changed the focus entirely to the casual gamer, which is kind of sad =/ and going to a Blizzcon to find out that 70% of the people there don't even know what Starcraft or Diablo is makes me a sad gamer. | ||
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