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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 04 2011 18:31 GMT
#15621
I still don't really understand why he asked for donations for his living expenses after talking about how expensive running some of these projects are. So he's basically saying he'll be diverting most/all of his income (blip.tv, youtube, ustream, parents?) towards his projects and wants to rely on donations for living expenses right? What kind of foolhardy thinking is that? Why not just ask for donations for the projects instead of trying to sound like a sacrificial hero by asking us to help keep him alive? I doubt those who have/will donate wouldn't have refused had it been for the projects themselves.

Anywho, i have the greatest respect for your commitment and ambition towards the SC2 scene and esports Sean, so best of luck to you and your projects. Oh and maybe you can be just a little more prudent on your future plans.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 04 2011 18:41 GMT
#15622
On January 05 2011 03:31 Telcontar wrote:
I still don't really understand why he asked for donations for his living expenses after talking about how expensive running some of these projects are. So he's basically saying he'll be diverting most/all of his income (blip.tv, youtube, ustream, parents?) towards his projects and wants to rely on donations for living expenses right? What kind of foolhardy thinking is that? Why not just ask for donations for the projects instead of trying to sound like a sacrificial hero by asking us to help keep him alive? I doubt those who have/will donate wouldn't have refused had it been for the projects themselves.

Anywho, i have the greatest respect for your commitment and ambition towards the SC2 scene and esports Sean, so best of luck to you and your projects. Oh and maybe you can be just a little more prudent on your future plans.


i may have misunderstood but i think that the projects hes doing arent going to be paid for by himself or the donations but that hes going to try to get the money from other stuff to go into the esports scene. at least thats what i got out of it
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
January 04 2011 18:43 GMT
#15623
Can you see his announcement somewhere if you missed it? On blip.tv is only the daily he made after the announcement.
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
January 04 2011 18:44 GMT
#15624
Here it is, just one page back in this thread.

http://www.own3d.tv/video/51761/Day9_-_let_s_make_e-sports_happen_together_in_2011
We know nothing.
gundream
Profile Joined April 2010
United States229 Posts
January 04 2011 18:50 GMT
#15625
why are the people that are complaining....complaining.....he is probably going to do more for e-sports than any of you complaining about how he worded his announcement or how he actually plans to pull this off will ever do....so many fans of day9 that don't have faith in day9? just get out the donation sites and have them ready cause this will be difficult for him to do but i have faith that he knows what he is doing...he pulled a great release party and i think he can do a lot for the community...regardless of how he says he is going to do it
hallihg
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland61 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 19:01:02
January 04 2011 18:56 GMT
#15626
People who annoy you, aka. naggers, are here complaining like Sean is a public institution whos finances have to be transparent. He's an honest guy so we know that he most likely wont spend what people have donated to him on weed or hookers, but when you donate money to Day9 you are giving him money and the freedom to spend it, wheather it will be for daily expenses or esports projects or marijuana. So dont donate money to an individual on the internet if you want a report and receipts on how the money was spent.

que sera sera
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
January 04 2011 19:00 GMT
#15627
It's a donation not an investment. Get over it people.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
ProbeEtPylon
Profile Joined October 2010
168 Posts
January 04 2011 19:00 GMT
#15628
Does Day[9] have his own internet page?
beer
Scigrex
Profile Joined August 2010
United States34 Posts
January 04 2011 19:21 GMT
#15629
On January 05 2011 04:00 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Does Day[9] have his own internet page?


He said that he is hard at work on getting one up. Hopefully on the side there will be a donation button that will make it nice and easy for fans to donate to him. It sounds like getting this webpage up and running is his first major project of the year.
Plaxy
Profile Joined December 2010
57 Posts
January 04 2011 19:21 GMT
#15630
On January 05 2011 04:00 nihlon wrote:
It's a donation not an investment. Get over it people.



agreed sean even stressed how its totaly optional and 100% for the community. He said even if he doesent get donations his dailies (hour long shows! imagine if hbo gave away all their shows for free) will always be free which is awsome.

He even declined sponsor ships for his dailies becuase he wants what he does to stay focused on improving esports.

Once i start working again will deffiently be donating so Sean can stay living and do what he does best and what he loves, improving esports!
So we'll hate him Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark gracken. - Pieman
ProbeEtPylon
Profile Joined October 2010
168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 19:29:24
January 04 2011 19:25 GMT
#15631
On January 05 2011 04:21 Scigrex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 04:00 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Does Day[9] have his own internet page?


He said that he is hard at work on getting one up. Hopefully on the side there will be a donation button that will make it nice and easy for fans to donate to him. It sounds like getting this webpage up and running is his first major project of the year.


Cool, I wonder if it will offer more than being a pure "daily archieve"...
beer
JWes8
Profile Joined July 2010
United States13 Posts
January 04 2011 19:35 GMT
#15632
On January 05 2011 04:00 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Does Day[9] have his own internet page?

He will soon. That is the foundation for his big plan. Once he has that done, he wants us to all conglomerate there to discuss what we can do to make ESports 'happen'.

I actually went to college for sport management (just graduated 2 weeks ago with my BS). My reasoning, unlike everyone else in my major who wanted to work with the Yankees or Giants, was to create a competitive gaming scene based in academia, primarily high schools. Perhaps creating 'main stream' professional gaming will help that. Sean has to succed because we have to make him succeed. I know I am going to. If you are on this site at all, it means you have to believe in his vision and should help him press on too.

As far as donations, come on people, its not like we are trying to pay for his Mansion in LA (I'm sure he has many nerd servants building that for free). We are simply paying to give the biggest name in SC2 time to build whatever he can. We just need to have faith that he will do it (He's gotta be the best actor of all time if has managed to fool the thousands of avid fans he has accumulated over the past year or so into thinking he's a pretty upstanding gentleman who really, REALLY loves Starcraft, perhaps more than anyone else)

We just have to trust that Sean will do it right, and I for one, believe in him. If only for his magnetic personality. Business' around the world would KILL for a spokesperson like Day[9] to lead their advertising campaign. He can get the people to make it happen, all he needs is our support. Why wouldn't we at least give him a shot? I'd definately buy him some Dr. Pepper, so $5-10 isn't that big of an investment if you consider how much a change this could have on North America, maybe even the world (oh yes, exageration, but maybe no...)

Also, I read in an earlier post that someone stated that ticket sales are the biggest source of income for major sports. No sir, no indeed. Title sponsorships can be up to $30 million a year, and the primariy source of money outside of that is close to ticket sales, but not quite. Its luxury boxes. Those big ass suites at the tops of arenas and stadiums. They cost six to seven digits a year. And again, before tickets, concessions. Yes, tickets help, but its not a make or break situation. One last big source of income that also comes before tickest (not including merchandies, which yes, also surpasses tickets) is the TV sponsorships for the league (broadcasting rights), which is spread evenly to each team in most major North American sports.

Aaaannnd.... rant over. In a nutshell. Support Day[9] because he's the best. Give him Dr. Pepper!
o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
January 04 2011 19:51 GMT
#15633
Some of these comments are utterly ridiculous. If you don't want to donate to him, then don't fucking donate to him. If it upsets you that he is going to use some of the donations for living expenses, then don't fucking donate to him. But why waste everyone's time with absurd tangents about what donations money "should" be spent for? Get off your misguided high horse and realize that everyone can spend their money however they damn please. Sean is a very smart guy and can figure out how best to further the community without your indignant financial advice.
ProbeEtPylon
Profile Joined October 2010
168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-04 19:58:52
January 04 2011 19:52 GMT
#15634
On January 05 2011 04:35 JWes8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 04:00 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Does Day[9] have his own internet page?

He will soon. That is the foundation for his big plan. Once he has that done, he wants us to all conglomerate there to discuss what we can do to make ESports 'happen'.

I actually went to college for sport management (just graduated 2 weeks ago with my BS). My reasoning, unlike everyone else in my major who wanted to work with the Yankees or Giants, was to create a competitive gaming scene based in academia, primarily high schools. Perhaps creating 'main stream' professional gaming will help that. Sean has to succed because we have to make him succeed. I know I am going to. If you are on this site at all, it means you have to believe in his vision and should help him press on too.

As far as donations, come on people, its not like we are trying to pay for his Mansion in LA (I'm sure he has many nerd servants building that for free). We are simply paying to give the biggest name in SC2 time to build whatever he can. We just need to have faith that he will do it (He's gotta be the best actor of all time if has managed to fool the thousands of avid fans he has accumulated over the past year or so into thinking he's a pretty upstanding gentleman who really, REALLY loves Starcraft, perhaps more than anyone else)

We just have to trust that Sean will do it right, and I for one, believe in him. If only for his magnetic personality. Business' around the world would KILL for a spokesperson like Day[9] to lead their advertising campaign. He can get the people to make it happen, all he needs is our support. Why wouldn't we at least give him a shot? I'd definately buy him some Dr. Pepper, so $5-10 isn't that big of an investment if you consider how much a change this could have on North America, maybe even the world (oh yes, exageration, but maybe no...)

Also, I read in an earlier post that someone stated that ticket sales are the biggest source of income for major sports. No sir, no indeed. Title sponsorships can be up to $30 million a year, and the primariy source of money outside of that is close to ticket sales, but not quite. Its luxury boxes. Those big ass suites at the tops of arenas and stadiums. They cost six to seven digits a year. And again, before tickets, concessions. Yes, tickets help, but its not a make or break situation. One last big source of income that also comes before tickest (not including merchandies, which yes, also surpasses tickets) is the TV sponsorships for the league (broadcasting rights), which is spread evenly to each team in most major North American sports.

Aaaannnd.... rant over. In a nutshell. Support Day[9] because he's the best. Give him Dr. Pepper!


°_° While reading this, I just got brilliant idea. Rather a revelation. It will solve all money problems. It will make all "nerd servants" happy. The perfect advertising media. The nerdiest thing, that a nerd can ever buy. DAY[9] PLUSHIES :D
beer
DharmaTurtle
Profile Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
January 04 2011 20:07 GMT
#15635
I want a Manfred of my own!
I went from bronze to platinum in 3 awesome days.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 04 2011 20:11 GMT
#15636
On January 05 2011 04:35 JWes8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 04:00 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Does Day[9] have his own internet page?

He will soon. That is the foundation for his big plan. Once he has that done, he wants us to all conglomerate there to discuss what we can do to make ESports 'happen'.

I actually went to college for sport management (just graduated 2 weeks ago with my BS). My reasoning, unlike everyone else in my major who wanted to work with the Yankees or Giants, was to create a competitive gaming scene based in academia, primarily high schools. Perhaps creating 'main stream' professional gaming will help that. Sean has to succed because we have to make him succeed. I know I am going to. If you are on this site at all, it means you have to believe in his vision and should help him press on too.

As far as donations, come on people, its not like we are trying to pay for his Mansion in LA (I'm sure he has many nerd servants building that for free). We are simply paying to give the biggest name in SC2 time to build whatever he can. We just need to have faith that he will do it (He's gotta be the best actor of all time if has managed to fool the thousands of avid fans he has accumulated over the past year or so into thinking he's a pretty upstanding gentleman who really, REALLY loves Starcraft, perhaps more than anyone else)

We just have to trust that Sean will do it right, and I for one, believe in him. If only for his magnetic personality. Business' around the world would KILL for a spokesperson like Day[9] to lead their advertising campaign. He can get the people to make it happen, all he needs is our support. Why wouldn't we at least give him a shot? I'd definately buy him some Dr. Pepper, so $5-10 isn't that big of an investment if you consider how much a change this could have on North America, maybe even the world (oh yes, exageration, but maybe no...)

Also, I read in an earlier post that someone stated that ticket sales are the biggest source of income for major sports. No sir, no indeed. Title sponsorships can be up to $30 million a year, and the primariy source of money outside of that is close to ticket sales, but not quite. Its luxury boxes. Those big ass suites at the tops of arenas and stadiums. They cost six to seven digits a year. And again, before tickets, concessions. Yes, tickets help, but its not a make or break situation. One last big source of income that also comes before tickest (not including merchandies, which yes, also surpasses tickets) is the TV sponsorships for the league (broadcasting rights), which is spread evenly to each team in most major North American sports.

Aaaannnd.... rant over. In a nutshell. Support Day[9] because he's the best. Give him Dr. Pepper!



Back when I played Counter-Strike at a CAL-i level my team (we were all high school friends) tried to organize a tournament at our high school. They thought it was cool at first until they realized it involved guns and violence and then we were quickly shot down. I'm not sure there can ever be a "varsity" e-Sports team as long as most games popular in e-Sports feature killing as the main objective.
Wat
Karrmin
Profile Joined March 2010
Brazil27 Posts
January 04 2011 20:45 GMT
#15637
anyone have the link were day[9] explains how he stream?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 04 2011 20:48 GMT
#15638
On January 05 2011 04:52 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2011 04:35 JWes8 wrote:
On January 05 2011 04:00 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
Does Day[9] have his own internet page?

He will soon. That is the foundation for his big plan. Once he has that done, he wants us to all conglomerate there to discuss what we can do to make ESports 'happen'.

I actually went to college for sport management (just graduated 2 weeks ago with my BS). My reasoning, unlike everyone else in my major who wanted to work with the Yankees or Giants, was to create a competitive gaming scene based in academia, primarily high schools. Perhaps creating 'main stream' professional gaming will help that. Sean has to succed because we have to make him succeed. I know I am going to. If you are on this site at all, it means you have to believe in his vision and should help him press on too.

As far as donations, come on people, its not like we are trying to pay for his Mansion in LA (I'm sure he has many nerd servants building that for free). We are simply paying to give the biggest name in SC2 time to build whatever he can. We just need to have faith that he will do it (He's gotta be the best actor of all time if has managed to fool the thousands of avid fans he has accumulated over the past year or so into thinking he's a pretty upstanding gentleman who really, REALLY loves Starcraft, perhaps more than anyone else)

We just have to trust that Sean will do it right, and I for one, believe in him. If only for his magnetic personality. Business' around the world would KILL for a spokesperson like Day[9] to lead their advertising campaign. He can get the people to make it happen, all he needs is our support. Why wouldn't we at least give him a shot? I'd definately buy him some Dr. Pepper, so $5-10 isn't that big of an investment if you consider how much a change this could have on North America, maybe even the world (oh yes, exageration, but maybe no...)

Also, I read in an earlier post that someone stated that ticket sales are the biggest source of income for major sports. No sir, no indeed. Title sponsorships can be up to $30 million a year, and the primariy source of money outside of that is close to ticket sales, but not quite. Its luxury boxes. Those big ass suites at the tops of arenas and stadiums. They cost six to seven digits a year. And again, before tickets, concessions. Yes, tickets help, but its not a make or break situation. One last big source of income that also comes before tickest (not including merchandies, which yes, also surpasses tickets) is the TV sponsorships for the league (broadcasting rights), which is spread evenly to each team in most major North American sports.

Aaaannnd.... rant over. In a nutshell. Support Day[9] because he's the best. Give him Dr. Pepper!


°_° While reading this, I just got brilliant idea. Rather a revelation. It will solve all money problems. It will make all "nerd servants" happy. The perfect advertising media. The nerdiest thing, that a nerd can ever buy. DAY[9] PLUSHIES :D


That would sell so much that plushies companies would broke if they dont make their own day9 plushies. And daylings.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
JWes8
Profile Joined July 2010
United States13 Posts
January 04 2011 21:03 GMT
#15639
On January 05 2011 04:52 ProbeEtPylon wrote:
°_° While reading this, I just got brilliant idea. Rather a revelation. It will solve all money problems. It will make all "nerd servants" happy. The perfect advertising media. The nerdiest thing, that a nerd can ever buy. DAY[9] PLUSHIES :D


That is freakin' perfect! Could totally be a sweet donation thing, like $5 gives you small Day[9], $20 a mid size, and $50 and up a full on life size plushie. That'd be soooo good.

On January 05 2011 05:11 Tenks wrote:
Back when I played Counter-Strike at a CAL-i level my team (we were all high school friends) tried to organize a tournament at our high school. They thought it was cool at first until they realized it involved guns and violence and then we were quickly shot down. I'm not sure there can ever be a "varsity" e-Sports team as long as most games popular in e-Sports feature killing as the main objective.


True story dude... I'm kinda banking on high schools and such realizing that almost all entertainement media, IE movies, music, and to an extent, sports (remember the CoD Black Ops commercial that aired during basketball and football games) involves pretty brutal violence. But its not real, and the kids are playing those games anyway, so I mean, its not like their really taking that much of a stand.

But I totally see your point, and its a big ass problem. Thats a large reason why I think I may have to start in colleges and see how it works as a financial success. Athletic departments in high schools around the country are getting shut down because they just don't have enough funding from the state to keep them going, so if I can make it seem profitable, I think I have a shot.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 04 2011 21:07 GMT
#15640
I wish you the best of luck JWes8 but I think it'll be a hard thing to sell to high schools. Most seem to make their decisions based upon who is the loudest at the PTA meetings and like it or not violent video games are seen in a very, very negative light by most parents. Colleges would probably be a better leaping off point.

I also believe my school took issue since CS was rated "M" and a few people on the team (myself included) were under the age of 17 at the time. However since Australian video games have most of the violence cut out maybe just use those non-violent builds.
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