I completely agree with this.

And I'd like to add that I prefer to donate to an organisation than to a private, because it actually supports both the organisation and the members.

Edit: I actually misread what you wrote at first.

I'd say that more often cutting out the middle man is the easiest way to get your money to support the people you want it to, in order for them to reproduce whatever it is that you like..

And to Slasher:
I think this whole idea that you have is a showing of ignorance for the system. Because in the end the money is always coming out of the viewerships pockets. Only with add spornsors some of it also goes to them, and doesn't come back out in product that you're tuning in for.

It's innovations in the way we see how business works, like how many indy music developers are straying away from the norm and making it big not "selling out". I think Sean and other businesses are finding ways to make things more personal with their viewer-ship. There's no middleman for your money, it goes right where it's supposed to, and you don't have to worry about Doritos taking a cut.

Now if you were trying to offer up the argument that the tried a tested method for attaining add revenue for things such as this is a better option... Well then no duh! It's tried and tested. Advertisers would be a much easier way for Sean to make money. But that's not what he's trying to do. Sean is attempting to make everyone happy in the most efficient way possible, while still staying true to his fans and supporters. He's going above and beyond. And I'm willing to bet that this method he is using, because of the sort of person that Sean is and the sorts of people his supporters are, will work beautifully, and mature naturally as any learning business model.

I also felt it it very keen that you spoke about HD and Husky. This very part really helps to illustrate what I'm trying to say. Lately they've felt very "mainstream" and haven't really produced the content that I feel caters to the more "hardcore" fans because of that. Sure this is only one smaller part of the over all experience, but I think it's an important aspect that many viewers consider.

mizU

United States12125 Posts

January 05 2011 09:19 GMT

#15672

Ohhhhh Day[9].
You just had to say WhiteLoad on camera... like 50 times.

Naftali

United States54 Posts

January 05 2011 11:00 GMT

#15673

I'll be perfectly frank: I'm never going to donate money to Day9. The simple fact of the matter is that he doesn't need my money. I don't mean to say he doesn't need to eat, but that there are so many other sources of revenue before you get to charging your viewers, even through just asking for donations. Advertising is a tried and true method because it works. I fail to see how a short blurb about Doritos undermines the "hard-core" qualities of the dailies. He isn't NPR doing some hard-hitting story about food additives or obesity where he has to worry about corporate domineering. In fact he's already a corporate man just by how much he promotes the game, which is a product of Blizzard, part of Activision Blizzard, part of Vivendi.

Day9 has as much earning potential as almost anybody in this whole burgeoning eSports "scene". If he's rolling twenties two years from now I'll be as happy for him. If he doesn't like the terms sponsors are giving him, then he should get an agent to negotiate for him till he does. None of this is selling out, it's just being practical about who should pay for the content you produce: The viewers or some corporation?

Wodger

Scotland380 Posts

January 05 2011 12:44 GMT

#15674

1/04 Day[9] Daily #0233 Starcraft 2 TheLittleOne vs White-RA TvP (Blip.tv)
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Bellygareth

France512 Posts

January 05 2011 13:08 GMT

#15675

On January 05 2011 20:00 Naftali wrote:
I'll be perfectly frank: I'm never going to donate money to Day9. The simple fact of the matter is that he doesn't need my money. I don't mean to say he doesn't need to eat, but that there are so many other sources of revenue before you get to charging your viewers, even through just asking for donations. Advertising is a tried and true method because it works. I fail to see how a short blurb about Doritos undermines the "hard-core" qualities of the dailies. He isn't NPR doing some hard-hitting story about food additives or obesity where he has to worry about corporate domineering. In fact he's already a corporate man just by how much he promotes the game, which is a product of Blizzard, part of Activision Blizzard, part of Vivendi.

Day9 has as much earning potential as almost anybody in this whole burgeoning eSports "scene". If he's rolling twenties two years from now I'll be as happy for him. If he doesn't like the terms sponsors are giving him, then he should get an agent to negotiate for him till he does. None of this is selling out, it's just being practical about who should pay for the content you produce: The viewers or some corporation?

The difference is that if I donate I wont force him by contract to say my name on the daily a required number of times each hour.

It's unfortunately the kind of shit a sponsoring contract can require. And it's perfectly normal from the corporation point of vue.

The KY

United Kingdom6252 Posts

January 05 2011 13:56 GMT

#15676

So..hang on. Why is TLO playing T here?

What, basically, the hell?

ste0731

United Kingdom435 Posts

January 05 2011 14:01 GMT

#15677

On January 05 2011 22:56 The KY wrote:
So..hang on. Why is TLO playing T here?

What, basically, the hell?

TLO's playing random

DND_Enkil

Sweden598 Posts

January 05 2011 14:26 GMT

#15678

On January 05 2011 09:57 LokiOnline wrote:
I just donated. Given all the time and effort he has put into providing entertainment for us all, I see no point not to.

Where did you find his paypal? Been looking at all his sites that i know of and not seen any donate button so far.

On another note it feels a bit like a musician going "fuck no, i wont sell out and go corporate" and instead of releasing albums or even doing live shows sticks to standing in a street corner living entirely of what people donate to him ^^

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

January 05 2011 15:55 GMT

#15679

What's the e-mail we send our replays to and are we allowed to send in 2v2/3v3 ladder games for this week's Funday Monday?

Thanks!

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

January 05 2011 16:20 GMT

#15680

On January 06 2011 00:55 Torte de Lini wrote:
What's the e-mail we send our replays to and are we allowed to send in 2v2/3v3 ladder games for this week's Funday Monday?

Thanks!

yes, you are allowed to send 2v2 and 3v3, but I don't thik day9 will accept it unless it is a full zerg team and everyone does the nydus stuff ^^

by the way, the email is monday@day9.tv