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On March 14 2013 18:06 [F_]aths wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 17:53 BurningSera wrote:On March 14 2013 11:35 Warpish wrote:
I don't know what is worst. The artifact thing, Jim Raynor showing up like a cowboy in a shiny armor to save her lover (the greatest killer in the universe) or the discovery that Kerrigan can fly.
Or we get the exact same story just like the other two bliz games (D3 and war3). War3 was fine because of war2 (and war3 ending was excellent, epic, just...excellent) but hots could have been done so much better. I am so glad that i gave up on blizzard after D3. And the flying kerrigan is just laughable, i remember that was a mission of her killing some high templar back in bw (there are some decoys of that high templar and right after you killed the last one kerrigan will arrive in an overlord), i tried to search for the name but i couldnt find it. Found this mission video instead: + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bI7nUlsu9Y Kerrigan is so much evil (bitchy) in scbw and sc2 really have dumbed down the story alot (like ALOT), bitchy kerrigan wins all my heart tbh. I am so glad that that i gave up on blizzard after D3. I am a zerg in heart, proud to not own a copy of hots. The story is not dumber than in SC1 or BW. Of course, now you are older as back then, and life made you bitter so you want to have a bitchy Kerrigan. Newsflash: SC2 needs to sell to a large audience, not only to SC1 fans. If you are really a zerg at heart, you would have bought Hots regardless. (I am also one of the guys who almost exclusively plays zerg on the ladder.)
I would rather give up the game completely to play the game that is going to pain me. WoL was bad but I could take it (screw terran i dont care) but i will regret everyday if i bought hots. No money to blizzard who produced game like this, just no.
Also, please watch that video, it is only 4mins long.
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Well, the missions were quite fun to play and they weren't the same all the time. That was enjoyable. Only the last mission was a disappointment.
The cinematics looked good, but boy was the story fucking horrible. Really bad.
Uniting the swarm was of course cool, finding out about the roots of Zerg existance was also cool, but that's about it. The Dominion part was just lame and anti-climactic. Completely worthless. Mengsk never felt interesting or menacing. The story never made it seem like as if Mengsk actually had anything to show as a surprise. Also, no unexpected plot twists at all, just some small fry things, which were brought to you by captain obvious the minute you were introduced to it. Narud died the most anti-climactic death ever.
And yeah, we found out that there's a bad dude lurking inside the void. Well hello mr. fancypants.
They're just copying the shit out of the things they already made. What the fuck is that -.-
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Blizzard hasn´t written a good story arc since vanilla WoW pretty much. Haven't bought Hots and probably won´t either and watching this and reading the comments i am not surprised the story is bad. Still pissed at how bad and cliché the Diablo 3 storyline was compared to D2.
Also still no mentioning of Durant from BW? Before SC2 was released i was really curious about if he would appear since he was so damn cryptic in the BW campaign.
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if you guys dont buy HotS you dont know what u're missing! its awesome! :D
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On March 14 2013 16:14 USvBleakill wrote:
Mengsk was never a really good villain, he was ok but never had that much of developement. The very last scene was a little bit meh, i was thinking of a "must go, my people need me"- meme.
I really liked the story and the Starcraft universe a lot but what is really annoying for me in hots is: Why the fuck is Kerrigan so nice?
I mean seriously most of the time she jumps around like a 14 year old cheerleader with her first boyfriend. Yes they wanted to show that she is still a human but even after the transformation she acts too nice.
She cares about valarian, gives the terrans time to evacuate civilians and even to her subordinate, she is talking to them like employes not servans or slaves that are only living because she is allowing it.
I was hoping so much that rainor trys to kill her in the prison break scene. That she survives it barely and says "fuck that all now i´m going to kill everything with a heartbeat"
Most annoying thing about Kerrigan is that back when she was a human she gave off an impression of a strong, devoted person who still wasn't overly serious, seemed quite chill with a sense of humor. Her current character just doesn't really fit in, and I don't see how becoming a Zerg queen would develop her in this direction.
In SC campaign back when she was still a human Kerrigan was a total boss.
On March 14 2013 17:11 [F_]aths wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 16:48 Callynn wrote:
This story is second only to the Diablo 3 story in clichés, predictability, utter dullness and overall hastened and cold narrative. It feels like the passion is completely drained from the story to make room for 1930 hollywood plot. Yes. Like any previous Starcraft campaign. But at SC1 we were easier to impress because we were younger and now look back as if the story of SC1 was somehow better.
Hm I was 19 when I finished SC1 campaign for the first time, it really is far better. Both Raynor and Kerrigan are actually boss characters unlike this shallow mess of SC2.
On March 14 2013 16:29 [F_]aths wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 16:14 USvBleakill wrote:
I really liked the story and the Starcraft universe a lot but what is really annoying for me in hots is: Why the fuck is Kerrigan so nice? Because you as the player must relate to her. You cannot expect to sell a campaign to a large audience and ask the players to relate to a cold-blooded killer.
This isn't true, you only need to show little bits of humanity. Cold-blooded killers can actually be very attractive and popular characters. It's a lot easier to "relate" to a well-written character than a badly written one.
Also that BEAMU-showoff between Kerrigan and Narud was hilariously dumb. Made Kerrigan also seem kind of weak; Vegeta would have Final Flashed that shit into outer space.
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I really liked the outcome of the campaign. leaves a lot of questions for what will happen and what will you fight against as Protoss in the next ''chapter''? I would've liked to see more interaction between Jim and Kerrigan though, maybe especially in that last scene. Felt kind of.. Empty.I also didn't really like her turning into the queen of blades again after ~4 missions. I really liked her as.. the human Sarah kerrigan again. :p
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On March 14 2013 18:56 Thalandros wrote:
I really liked the outcome of the campaign. leaves a lot of questions for what will happen and what will you fight against as Protoss in the next ''chapter''? I would've liked to see more interaction between Jim and Kerrigan though, maybe especially in that last scene. Felt kind of.. Empty.I also didn't really like her turning into the queen of blades again after ~4 missions. I really liked her as.. the human Sarah kerrigan again. :p
It does? Didn't they make it completely obvious who you'll be fighting against, even announcing the name?
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On March 14 2013 18:42 unkkz wrote:
Blizzard hasn´t written a good story arc since vanilla WoW pretty much. Haven't bought Hots and probably won´t either and watching this and reading the comments i am not surprised the story is bad. Still pissed at how bad and cliché the Diablo 3 storyline was compared to D2.
Also still no mentioning of Durant from BW? Before SC2 was released i was really curious about if he would appear since he was so damn cryptic in the BW campaign.
Vanilla WoW? Vanilla WoW had no story.
Also Narud is Duran. How much more obvious does it need to be?
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By the way where was nova? She looked like a main character and i was really expecting that she would hunt Kerrigan for the first part of the story. Or fight her at the end maybe with a cutscene.
A missed opportunity to have a "counterpart" with her because as the boring xel naga villain pointed out nova is what kerrigan could be without the zerg infestation.
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On March 14 2013 18:13 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 18:06 [F_]aths wrote:On March 14 2013 17:53 BurningSera wrote:On March 14 2013 11:35 Warpish wrote:
I don't know what is worst. The artifact thing, Jim Raynor showing up like a cowboy in a shiny armor to save her lover (the greatest killer in the universe) or the discovery that Kerrigan can fly.
Or we get the exact same story just like the other two bliz games (D3 and war3). War3 was fine because of war2 (and war3 ending was excellent, epic, just...excellent) but hots could have been done so much better. I am so glad that i gave up on blizzard after D3. And the flying kerrigan is just laughable, i remember that was a mission of her killing some high templar back in bw (there are some decoys of that high templar and right after you killed the last one kerrigan will arrive in an overlord), i tried to search for the name but i couldnt find it. Found this mission video instead: + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bI7nUlsu9Y Kerrigan is so much evil (bitchy) in scbw and sc2 really have dumbed down the story alot (like ALOT), bitchy kerrigan wins all my heart tbh. I am so glad that that i gave up on blizzard after D3. I am a zerg in heart, proud to not own a copy of hots. The story is not dumber than in SC1 or BW. Of course, now you are older as back then, and life made you bitter so you want to have a bitchy Kerrigan. Newsflash: SC2 needs to sell to a large audience, not only to SC1 fans. If you are really a zerg at heart, you would have bought Hots regardless. (I am also one of the guys who almost exclusively plays zerg on the ladder.) I would rather give up the game completely to play the game that is going to pain me. WoL was bad but I could take it (screw terran i dont care) but i will regret everyday if i bought hots. No money to blizzard who produced game like this, just no. Also, please watch that video, it is only 4mins long. As I finished the campaign (on normal mode) the same night Hots was launched, I already saw that video. I don't play the campaign to see videos however, I want to beat the missions and get all achievements.
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On March 14 2013 18:46 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 16:14 USvBleakill wrote:
Mengsk was never a really good villain, he was ok but never had that much of developement. The very last scene was a little bit meh, i was thinking of a "must go, my people need me"- meme.
I really liked the story and the Starcraft universe a lot but what is really annoying for me in hots is: Why the fuck is Kerrigan so nice?
I mean seriously most of the time she jumps around like a 14 year old cheerleader with her first boyfriend. Yes they wanted to show that she is still a human but even after the transformation she acts too nice.
She cares about valarian, gives the terrans time to evacuate civilians and even to her subordinate, she is talking to them like employes not servans or slaves that are only living because she is allowing it.
I was hoping so much that rainor trys to kill her in the prison break scene. That she survives it barely and says "fuck that all now i´m going to kill everything with a heartbeat" Most annoying thing about Kerrigan is that back when she was a human she gave off an impression of a strong, devoted person who still wasn't overly serious, seemed quite chill with a sense of humor. Her current character just doesn't really fit in, and I don't see how becoming a Zerg queen would develop her in this direction. In SC campaign back when she was still a human Kerrigan was a total boss. Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 17:11 [F_]aths wrote:On March 14 2013 16:48 Callynn wrote:
This story is second only to the Diablo 3 story in clichés, predictability, utter dullness and overall hastened and cold narrative. It feels like the passion is completely drained from the story to make room for 1930 hollywood plot. Yes. Like any previous Starcraft campaign. But at SC1 we were easier to impress because we were younger and now look back as if the story of SC1 was somehow better. Hm I was 19 when I finished SC1 campaign for the first time, it really is far better. Both Raynor and Kerrigan are actually boss characters unlike this shallow mess of SC2. Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 16:29 [F_]aths wrote:On March 14 2013 16:14 USvBleakill wrote:
I really liked the story and the Starcraft universe a lot but what is really annoying for me in hots is: Why the fuck is Kerrigan so nice? Because you as the player must relate to her. You cannot expect to sell a campaign to a large audience and ask the players to relate to a cold-blooded killer. This isn't true, you only need to show little bits of humanity. Cold-blooded killers can actually be very attractive and popular characters. It's a lot easier to "relate" to a well-written character than a badly written one. Also that BEAMU-showoff between Kerrigan and Narud was hilariously dumb. Made Kerrigan also seem kind of weak; Vegeta would have Final Flashed that shit into outer space.
That beam thing at least allowed for a new type of mission.
I doubt that cool-blooded killers are attractive to the general audience HotS is targeting at. I was 21 when I played the SC1 campaign and found it dull and bad then. But the setting was nice (the ingame graphics with dried-out bones of ancient animals and so on.)
The terran story: We REBEL (oho, we REBEL) with "this is Jimmy" against the bad confederacy. I wanted to play with blind obedience to my superiors and not REBEL versus the authorities. But I had no choice ... so okay we join Mensk but, surprise, surprise! It turns out he is a tyrant and he used us.
Beside having the entire SC setting being a 40K rip-off, plus a bit Starship Troopers and Alien, the story was even more unoriginal and full of cliches. Remember "this is Jimmy" meeting Sarah? Cliche, oh the cliche.
I still liked the missions.
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Mengsk deserved a better death, as the most cunning and manipulative person in the planet his death is pretty lame. Sitting in Korhal to await a Zerg invasion and having such a predictable death (intervened by Raynor Hollywood style) is simply not Mengsk would've done in SC1/BW.
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I liked it. Yes it's not original in any way, yes you probably won't like it if you care about sc1 story (I only played that for the multiplayer anyway) but the missions is well done and I like the zerg characters much more than the terran ones. If you don't take it too seriously I think it's well worth the money.
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Gentlemen....
The Inauguration
Watch this ending cinematic... It's from 1997.... 1997 !!!!! Imagine if we had a cinematic like this with todays CGI graphics...
The entire Starcraft Universe and lore is captured in this very cinematic... It's about RACES, wars.. not about individuals..
But SC2 went an entirely other way with the story telling  !
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Sadly, this is due to the size of the game. AAA companies like blizzard do these tests where they let random retards rate their story and characters and random retards do not like intelligent stories like sc1, but cheesy dickfests like sc2.
I expected this super cheesiness so i was hellbent on enjoying it anyway and just shrugged away all the bitterness and hatred i feel because of their complete rape of my all time favorite videogame character, kerrigan. Like that, i could enjoy the final revenge on mengsk, the reunion of raynor and sarah etc. But now when i'm done i feel dirty. I forced myself to enjoy watching blizzard assraping the love of my life.
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Random retards don't like characters with character either. So we have this ugly bald fuck jim raynor in sc1, sure hes a really good guy but a pig nonetheless. SC2: superhero with tragic drinking problem. seriously fuck off blizzard
human kerrigan sc1: awesome cocky spacepunk. sc2: nice dream girl redhead.
infested kerrigan sc1: pure manipulative lying sadistic evil. sc2: straight forward hell commander, into nice dream girl zerghead
it's so fucking bad i'm about to hurl. stop raping my childhood blizzard
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I don't understand how Raynor can be an ally with Kerrigan. In wol he says that his crew's war is about saving lives yet in hots he becomes an ally with kerrigan that issues orders for the destruction of whole terran planets, kills general Warfield and other terrans left and right
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On March 14 2013 21:51 Chaoticrun wrote:
I don't understand how Raynor can be an ally with Kerrigan. In wol he says that his crew's war is about saving lives yet in hots he becomes an ally with kerrigan that issues orders for the destruction of whole terran planets, kills general Warfield and other terrans left and right
Kerrigan attacks warfield as she needs to retake Char and he wouldn't let her until he died. Also she lets all the people who are not already dead escape, it shows that her humanity has been slightly returned to her.
Raynor is also a hypocrite as throughout the entirety of SC1, BW and WoL he's killing other terrans and protoss people :p
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The campaign is really fun to play as. The story isn't the strongest story, its not like it is the hobbit or something like that. Heck Star wars 1-3 had a really cheesy story line, and I am sure 98% of us have seen them and enjoyed them( and by enjoy i mean had fun). The whole story of sc 2 is really crazy and over the top. I think blizzard had to do it that way. At the core of HOTS it is s a love story with Jim and Kerrigan. And Kerrigan basically has to go super saiyan to save jim, because they built mengsk up as a super powerful crazy bad guy. Not only that she had to become this super powerful queen of blades because blizzard created Zurvas(this super crazy strong primal zerg). . And if kerrigan can blow away a terran army with "space magic" you know Amon will be even more insane. Amon sounds extremely powerful, like a crazy scary thing, like the reapers of mass effect, that only through the combined might of all the races can they defeat it. Kerrigan has to lose her humanity because she has to give up everything to become the swarm to beat this Amon guy. That's just how I understand, what Blizzard wanted to do.
+ Show Spoiler +Look personally I would have prefered her maintain her human form, and she uses the zerg with the help of the hyperion to save Jim, for the first half of the game, and then the second half of the game join in a civil war with prince valerian, kerrigan's zerg and jim. I think it would be more interesting if kerrigan wasn't presented as a all powerful being but someone who is vulnerble. I found Jim in WoL more interesting because of the vulnerbility. Jim drank, he loved, he lost. and at the end of the day all he cared about was getting Kerrigan back, moving to a place he could live in peace with her. I think i would take zeratual, kerrigan and Jim Raynor and use them to ultimately unite the races to kill Amon in the 3rd game. Where you have to take those 3 heroes and convince each faction leaders, (Valerian, Broodmother, golden armada admirals( whoever leads them).) And once you have them all you engage in a big fight to kill Amon.
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