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Leukraft
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Aleixo
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
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Vertitto
Poland750 Posts
On March 14 2013 07:04 BearStorm wrote: Well at least they changed a few of the extremely annoying details from the leaked ending. Xel' Naga artifacts makes a lot more sense than an implanted kill device. Also Kerrigan freeing the swarm is something that should maybe happen at the end of LotV so at least I'm happy they changed that. well you don't know if they'v changed it at all. btw. Shouldn't the "Heart of the Swarm" subforum be delated since HoTS is fully operational now ? | ||
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
On March 14 2013 07:20 Vertitto wrote: well you don't know if they'v changed it at all. btw. Shouldn't the "Heart of the Swarm" subforum be delated since HoTS is fully operational now ? ????? I certainly know that they've made those changes. Sorry maybe it's not clear, but I'm comparing the cinematic in the OP to this: In which case we can clearly tell that they've made changes. Specifically I pointed out the Xel' Naga artifact and the freeing of The Swarm. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On March 14 2013 10:07 BearStorm wrote: ????? I certainly know that they've made those changes. Sorry maybe it's not clear, but I'm comparing the cinematic in the OP to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YkX4Yt4ek8 In which case we can clearly tell that they've made changes. Specifically I pointed out the Xel' Naga artifact and the freeing of The Swarm. Hmm, that's interesting. The dialogue makes more sense with the implant, why would Mengsk say he was "keeping an animal like you close to me without an insurance policy" if he's referring to Artifact? He was never keeping her close after she got infested... | ||
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n0ise
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funny to see that 'justice' was one of their initial ideas, until they decided to stick to vengeance | ||
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
On March 14 2013 10:14 Alzadar wrote: Hmm, that's interesting. The dialogue makes more sense with the implant, why would Mengsk say he was "keeping an animal like you close to me without an insurance policy" if he's referring to Artifact? He was never keeping her close after she got infested... Yeah I remember thinking the same thing. Mengsk also didn't have the artifact when she was human either. Seems like they got a little sloppy with the dialogue. However, I do prefer the Xel' Naga artifact even though the implant would have been more interesting (for Mengsk's character). My problem with the implant is that it would be very difficult to believe that she wouldn't know notice it after all those years as she experienced drastic physical evolution. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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mGGNoRe
Australia124 Posts
Second I noticed a few differences as well I liked them too. The zerg felt quite iffy nad not scary in the leaked cinematic to me. So i'm glad they changed it! good work blizzard. | ||
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Warpish
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Signus
United States269 Posts
The zerg being free and getting justice lines were cut and for good reason, but the theming behind it is still way too prevalent throughout the campaign. Not having it stuffed down your throat at the very end is a welcome change, but the Zerg are still basically the Orcs from Warcraft 3. Amon's influence is the Burning Legion, Kerrigan is Thrall, and the whole thing makes me a little disgusted with Blizzard's writing staff for being unable to get away from telling the same damn story again and again. Blizzard ruined both the Zerg and Kerrigan for me, both of which were the most interesting parts of the Starcraft universe at the end of Brood War. Now we just have to wait 3 years for Legacy of the Void and see how this trainwreck ends. | ||
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Warpish
834 Posts
On March 14 2013 11:38 Signus wrote: It's funny how they changed stuff due to outrage. The dialogue fits a lot better with a kill device than the xel'naga artifact, but I don't think either is bad. If anything, the kill device is better because it goes really plays into Mengsk's paranoia, but it's almost impossible to imagine that it would have survived intact for so long through so many infestations. Either way, it works just so Raynor can save Kerrigan at the end, so whatever. The zerg being free and getting justice lines were cut and for good reason, but the theming behind it is still way too prevalent throughout the campaign. Not having it stuffed down your throat at the very end is a welcome change, but the Zerg are still basically the Orcs from Warcraft 3. Amon's influence is the Burning Legion, Kerrigan is Thrall, and the whole thing makes me a little disgusted with Blizzard's writing staff for being unable to tell more than one story. Blizzard ruined both the Zerg and Kerrigan for me, both of which were the most interesting parts of the Starcraft universe at the end of Brood War. Now we just have to wait 3 years for Legacy of the Void and see how this trainwreck ends. We know how it ends; at least those who played Warcraft 3 do. The three races will unite to fight Amon. It's so obvious. It's so silly. I lost hope for this trainwreck of a story. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Goldfish
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On March 14 2013 11:41 Warpish wrote: We know how it ends; at least those who played Warcraft 3 do. The three races will unite to fight Amon. It's so obvious. It's so silly. I lost hope for this trainwreck of a story. At least WC3TFT's ending was really good. Click. Though in a way, it's basically the same as BW's ending (where a villain ends up winning, except it was way more epic TFT and this is coming from someone who liked SC1+BW's story better mainly because I really liked the UED and their impact on the other characters in BW). SC1 already used their "TFT ending" with BW (or you can say it's the reverse since TFT came out after BW of course), so that means SC2 is heading the way of WoW (minus Arthas getting owned by an elite army of nerds with uber loot... except said elite army of nerds got owned and we needed an NPC to help us defeat Arthas). SC2: Rise of the Scantipede... set in China! It'll be after a montage of "We've defeated the Dominion, the Hybrids, and the Dark Voice.... what is left is to explore the Planet of the Scantipedes!". The new leader of the Zerg is the son of Kerrigan and Raynor named Barrosh! And Barrosh is like a total jerk to everyone for some reason. He kidnaps baby Scantipede children and destroys the Alliance (what do we call the Alliance of Protoss, Zerg, and Terran if it happens?) innocents! Zeratul and Selendis goes neutral for some reason. Without them, who will stop Barrosh from being a jerk to the Alliance? (Actually despite that, I heard that MoP is actually really good and most WoW players really liked the expansion compared to Cataclysm and Wrath of the Lich King.) On March 14 2013 10:57 BearStorm wrote: Yeah I remember thinking the same thing. Mengsk also didn't have the artifact when she was human either. Seems like they got a little sloppy with the dialogue. However, I do prefer the Xel' Naga artifact even though the implant would have been more interesting (for Mengsk's character). My problem with the implant is that it would be very difficult to believe that she wouldn't know notice it after all those years as she experienced drastic physical evolution. I agree. In a way, it makes the Overmind "even less" badass. First you find out that he wasn't owning it up in SC1 by himself (including revolting against the Xel'Naga), and now he did a lousy job at infesting Kerrigan? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Guess I really am not missing much by not getting HotS even though the unintentional comedy value of the cinematics was pretty good. | ||
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
"go fight without me kerrigan" "no jim! i'm coming to help!" -.- it would have been better if there were a few let downs in the story. like jim trying to get into the lair but ends up watching kerrigan kill mengsk from a distance and leave without acknowledging him. or just let fucking mengsk get away. or let jim raynor take some bullets in the final scene and be dead by the time she finds him. have valerian knife jim or his father. or show kerrigan killing mengsk alien style with a larva eating its way out of his chest. or have zeratul save mengsk and make everyone go "wtf is he doing??". or show kerrigan breaking into the lair to find zeratul over mengsk's dead body and say "i'm sorry kerrigan. but i couldn't let you" and watch her go ape shit crazy. just ANYTHING that's not what blizzard made. wtf. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On March 14 2013 13:20 HeeroFX wrote: Well the 3 races should unite and destroy the great evil being of Amon. Should be epic. But I hope the love of Kerrigan and Jim works out. I mean I wanted them to you know kiss and make up get married haha. Well at least the story works for someone  First of all I LOVED the game-play of the campaign, even though it was a bit easy, even on brutal. But I really wasn't a fan of all the lovey-dovey stuff between Kerrigan and Raynor. I hoped that when she became the queen of blades again Raynor'ed remember why he had vowed to kill her. Oh well. I also wish they'd had a bit more insight on the xel naga. The lack of that made the story feel kind of disjointed. With that said, they did alright. The cinematics were all amazing, and I'm glad mensk is dead. Edit: Oh, and still no Earth or really much of anything UED except Stukov. I find that to be super annoying. | ||
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PineapplePizza
United States749 Posts
On March 14 2013 14:13 TheDougler wrote: Edit: Oh, and still no Earth or really much of anything UED except Stukov. I find that to be super annoying. Stukov mentions that the UED will come back in one of the conversations, but whether that will be before someone twilight-archon superattacks Amon at the end of LotV, or not, is anyone's guess. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Dunno... I liked most of how BW was written, but the SC2 writers probably should try learning how to make romance(and especially the development, not just "oh I love x for no good reason", you need to show things that make the viewer feel like "If I was in that situation I might be able to sacrifice myself for that person's sake". The audience is supposed to understand why Raynor would love Kerrigan, they should also make us love her as well(And a shaking ass while walking isn't really the point here). Showing vulnerability in areas that one might not think of would be a very good starting point for that, getting embarrassed over something would be another thing(difficult to really explain though). If it seriously will be some "3 races unite against the great evil god"-story as it looks it will be, that'll be the biggest story-based disappointment since forever. If they're pushing Kerrigan + Raynor so much they might as well make it about them, that'd be somewhat creative. Maybe even making Raynor betray everyone for her or make Kerrigan be the evil god's host and force Raynor to kill her or something like that. Not just some shallow story written for second-graders and people who are afraid of crying. I don't get why people like that Mengsk is dead, he was a shining star in BW story and they just totally ruined him and then killed him off. Really tragic. | ||
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