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Fuyihken
United States19 Posts
When I watch a replay the APM pane average counter doesn't seem to be very accurate. It'll be ok for a while but then it will just jump by almost a hundred for no reason. The constant APM readout seems pretty accurate but the average is definitely not... I'm sorry but I don't have an average APM of 180+, I just don't, lol. PS: I also have the same issue with the EPM counters. | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
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Fuyihken
United States19 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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PXEnTei
United States209 Posts
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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ailouros
United States193 Posts
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c0sm0naut
United States1229 Posts
On February 05 2013 06:26 kollin wrote: They may have started doing it by real time APM, as opposed to Blizzard time. | ||
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Grapefruit
Germany439 Posts
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Dirkinity
Germany409 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On February 05 2013 07:43 Grapefruit wrote: I think it only displays your peak APM. Not the average like it should. This is not true. My peak apm is always around like 500-600 in any SC1/SC2 game and my average in HotS after every game is about 280-350. They are either counting in real time now AND counting more action types OR they have a fucked up counter that is just wrong atm. | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
I find it much more useful to see the worker count of each player for econ results vs the new stupid apm. Apm means nothing imo unless ur top gm/pro player, as most apm from players are useless spam, does not help anyone improve to know what someones apm is, bring back the info wol shows after each match, Beta stats is just useless | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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SoFrOsTy
United States525 Posts
On February 05 2013 07:02 ailouros wrote: I think it's just working like it's supposed to now, besides the season average counter. There is no way it is working as intended. In Almost all of my replays zergs average over 400 apm while terrain and toss average 350ish. I haven't seen anyone with less than 300. Its calculating per real minute but being divided by the fake in game minute which is inflating the number. | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
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IronyDK
Denmark142 Posts
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ricepudding
47 Posts
I guess the real time thing makes sense for when it's actually working because I did see an increase in APM, even though I'm still not as good at HotS as I am at WoL. It does make me happy when I see that my APM is 2384. (o^-^)o Although I would like to know my actual APM without having to pull up a replay. | ||
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ghost_face
Australia33 Posts
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ailouros
United States193 Posts
On February 05 2013 12:27 SoFrOsTy wrote: There is no way it is working as intended. In Almost all of my replays zergs average over 400 apm while terrain and toss average 350ish. I haven't seen anyone with less than 300. Its calculating per real minute but being divided by the fake in game minute which is inflating the number. It's working fine for me at least, it's about what I had in Brood War. | ||
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ricepudding
47 Posts
On February 05 2013 18:27 ghost_face wrote: The APM counter in WoL wasn't showing your real speed. It is showing actions per ~43 seconds, a minute in game time, (60 seconds / 1.4), not actions per real minute, which HoTs is showing. Unfortunately, that still doesn't explain why it showed that I had 1000+ APM in my games. My APM is 110 at most (game time), and if you do the math, that doesn't equate to 1000 in real time. | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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LF[Media]
United States58 Posts
It's definitely not taking your peak/max apm, though, because I have right click bound to the mousewheel and if it was reading peak apm it would be reading like 1k apm whenever I set rally points or something. I also seriously doubt that it's just the difference between taking the apm in real time or not, because the difference between "faster" and real time seconds is, iirc, 1.4 or 1.8 or something (I don't know for sure but it's above 1 and below 2); the difference between "330 apm" and a more realistic 150 apm is a lot more drastic than that. I think it's just totally screwed up at the moment, but I wouldn't totally write off Blizzard tampering with it to artificially double your apm to make you "feel better about yourself"; between hiding your true MMR and separating the ladder into a billion little leagues and divisions, they seem to be completely comfortable with the idea of putting out artificially inflated data and statistics to make players feel like they are a lot "better" than they really are. That said, although it isn't a huge deal I would like to be able to see my actual apm; looking at the stats screen and thinking "okay, that's total bullshit, there is NO WAY that's accurate" doesn't increase my self esteem, it just frustrates me. If they are going to give APM stats, I'd like them to be accurate so I can see if I'm undergoing improvement or if I'm slacking off. I do really like the idea of showing your stats each game as compared to your average stats, it's a cool idea, but please make them correct! | ||
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imPermanenCe
Netherlands595 Posts
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Gevna
France2332 Posts
On February 05 2013 21:06 Belha wrote: I still miss the old WoL counter. For good old loyal players, that is the way to compare how fast are u playing. apm wol isn't even in real time, actually you have no way in sc2 (beside sc2 gears and other tier program) to know your apm. I don't know how it's possible for Blizzard to mess up so badly the apm counter. In wol I was at 170-200 apm (from sc2 gears), and in hots I've got 250apm. I may be a bit faster since there is more to do in hots, but probably not by 50-70 apm  | ||
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BoggieMan
520 Posts
maybe they fixed it cause in recent games i have had like normal apm. | ||
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Aestis
United States5 Posts
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scanders
20 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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ricepudding
47 Posts
On February 06 2013 01:30 scanders wrote: I believe the reason everyones APM is so high for zerg is because of larva. Say you have like 30 larva and hold down z to spawn 30 lings it takes less than a second and counts each one of those spawns as apm, so really increases your apm. That might be true, but I play Protoss and I got readings of 1000 APM. Haha. | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
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U_G_L_Y
United States516 Posts
So if you are hearing "You require more minerals" (as you should be) or mashing an upgrade hotkey repeatedly when one is about to finish, in WOL, it is not counting those as actions | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
On February 05 2013 21:06 Belha wrote: I still miss the old WoL counter. For good old loyal players, that is the way to compare how fast are u playing. No, you're wrong. The WoL counter is broken (and always has been). Sure, so is the HotS one, but at least they are trying to fix it .The Broodwar counter is the most accurate. | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
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Archen
United States79 Posts
The APM shown for the game you just played seems to be a little bit higher too, it seems to be about 50 or so higher for me each game. | ||
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