On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I am aware of that. And I m also aware that David Kim is a high level ex professional player. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/David_Kim . The balance department is a team where as they all work together, sure Dustin is gold or whatever, but his expertise is in something else in relation to balance. If it were up to a 'gold level' player wouldn't you see actual ridiculed patches rather than an actual attempt to balance? Like I said, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing.
Ha Ha Ha
You are funny mate. You know what Dustin Browder calls "Micro"? Turning banshee cloak on/off (seriously).
They give terran a hellbat, which can be healed and flown by super speed medivacs, which rapes all zerglings and drones in seconds and even amazing vs. roaches.
Please watch this video and say again that Blizzard knows how to balance the game (5:18):
On February 06 2013 06:21 Sc2Wrath wrote: I can't believe they want to Nerf the Infestor some more, whilst still not getting other compensation on Lair tech units. I guess I can hope Swarm host is worked out, and becomes useful.
Hydra and Swarm Host and Muta changes are enough mid game strength. Hydra speed might not look like much on paper, but when combined with Roaches or Swarm Hosts you have a very powerful force. It's more about the composition synergy making them viable than direct changes to the Hydra.
The swarm host is useful. People are just slow to learn to use it properly. Check out blades thread and massive swarm host replay pack. As you can see from his replays the true strength of Zerg comes from using a big mix of Zerg units. I feel that many Zerg players think that if they can't mass 1-2 units and win that Zerg is broken, and hope that changes with HoTS.
On February 06 2013 06:31 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I hope you're aware than Dustin, Kim and the rest of the team base balance on the massive amounts of data they collect from us playing games. I hope you're aware that Dustin is not ashamed of his rank, and clearly does not base balance on low level play. I hope your aware that when the game goes retail the massive increase in data collected from the massive non-beta player base will be the first time Blizzard has real data to analyse to help balance the game. I hope your aware than BW and most other RTS require balancing after release for the reasons mentioned above.
Data doesn't mean shit if you cannot assess and apply the data properly. Moreover, you're presuming that the data they are using is indicative of balance which it may or may not. I know one thing is for certain, that is the lead balance designer of the game is a gold level terran. This fact alone is enough for me to have no faith in Blizzard. Honestly, what world do you live in? It took them over a fucking year for them to remove close positions on some of their ladder maps and you think they know how to balance a game? In what world would a competent balance designer would look at close positions on shattered temple and think it was balanced, so much to the pt where it stayed on the ladder for over a year? They have done nothing but consistently fuck up matchups or not address glaring issues over and over again. Blizzard is utterly incompetent.
that is no argument at all. DK isn't playing sc2 full time he is actually working ons sc2 fulltime. why would he be gm? because he knows theblacksheepwall?! or thepoweroverwhelming?! Certainly not. Why would the lead designer need to be a gm? maybe his apm are below 20 or his decision making is TERRIBLE in certain situations. who cares, it says nothing about his abilities to do his job. period.They have testers and statistic guys to analyse hundreds of thousands of games and yet the whole system MUST be flawed because one guy is gold. It's like saying the manager of a soccer team needs to be the best player in the world... HotS ais tons of fun, it has improved massively during beta and if u want to criticise do it in a constructive way or leave, coz otherwise u r not gonna achieve anything even if u had beneficial ideas.
On February 06 2013 06:21 Sc2Wrath wrote: I can't believe they want to Nerf the Infestor some more, whilst still not getting other compensation on Lair tech units. I guess I can hope Swarm host is worked out, and becomes useful.
Hydra and Swarm Host and Muta changes are enough mid game strength. Hydra speed might not look like much on paper, but when combined with Roaches or Swarm Hosts you have a very powerful force. It's more about the composition synergy making them viable than direct changes to the Hydra.
The swarm host is useful. People are just slow to learn to use it properly. Check out blades thread and massive swarm host replay pack. As you can see from his replays the true strength of Zerg comes from using a big mix of Zerg units. I feel that many Zerg players think that if they can't mass 1-2 units and win that Zerg is broken, and hope that changes with HoTS.
On February 06 2013 06:31 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I hope you're aware than Dustin, Kim and the rest of the team base balance on the massive amounts of data they collect from us playing games. I hope you're aware that Dustin is not ashamed of his rank, and clearly does not base balance on low level play. I hope your aware that when the game goes retail the massive increase in data collected from the massive non-beta player base will be the first time Blizzard has real data to analyse to help balance the game. I hope your aware than BW and most other RTS require balancing after release for the reasons mentioned above.
Data doesn't mean shit if you cannot assess and apply the data properly. Moreover, you're presuming that the data they are using is indicative of balance which it may or may not. I know one thing is for certain, that is the lead balance designer of the game is a gold level terran. This fact alone is enough for me to have no faith in Blizzard. Honestly, what world do you live in? It took them over a fucking year for them to remove close positions on some of their ladder maps and you think they know how to balance a game? In what world would a competent balance designer would look at close positions on shattered temple and think it was balanced, so much to the pt where it stayed on the ladder for over a year? They have done nothing but consistently fuck up matchups or not address glaring issues over and over again. Blizzard is utterly incompetent.
Lol. Everybody knows that Dustin Browder (as well as everybody else in the balance team) does not have a main race. Well, I guess everybody that does not miss such facts over unreflected hatred...
Lol@ blizzards justification for Hydras not being weak.
The reason why everyone is building Hydralisks now is because THAT'S THE ONLY THING LEFT THAT WASN'T NERFED... Infestors- Nerfed Infested Terrans- Nerfed Corruptors- completely demolished by the new Void Ray. (And no innovative or promised changes to this boring unit, which has been discussed by Dustin before the beta was even released) Queens- too slow Mutas-ripped to shreds by Phoenix and Carriers
Hydras are the only unit left that is even remotely cost effective for Zerg. It's not like Zerg has a choice in the matter when all other AA options have been nerfed into the ground or just flat out lose.
On February 06 2013 06:21 Sc2Wrath wrote: I can't believe they want to Nerf the Infestor some more, whilst still not getting other compensation on Lair tech units. I guess I can hope Swarm host is worked out, and becomes useful.
Hydra and Swarm Host and Muta changes are enough mid game strength. Hydra speed might not look like much on paper, but when combined with Roaches or Swarm Hosts you have a very powerful force. It's more about the composition synergy making them viable than direct changes to the Hydra.
The swarm host is useful. People are just slow to learn to use it properly. Check out blades thread and massive swarm host replay pack. As you can see from his replays the true strength of Zerg comes from using a big mix of Zerg units. I feel that many Zerg players think that if they can't mass 1-2 units and win that Zerg is broken, and hope that changes with HoTS.
On February 06 2013 06:31 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I hope you're aware than Dustin, Kim and the rest of the team base balance on the massive amounts of data they collect from us playing games. I hope you're aware that Dustin is not ashamed of his rank, and clearly does not base balance on low level play. I hope your aware that when the game goes retail the massive increase in data collected from the massive non-beta player base will be the first time Blizzard has real data to analyse to help balance the game. I hope your aware than BW and most other RTS require balancing after release for the reasons mentioned above.
Data doesn't mean shit if you cannot assess and apply the data properly. Moreover, you're presuming that the data they are using is indicative of balance which it may or may not. I know one thing is for certain, that is the lead balance designer of the game is a gold level terran. This fact alone is enough for me to have no faith in Blizzard. Honestly, what world do you live in? It took them over a fucking year for them to remove close positions on some of their ladder maps and you think they know how to balance a game? In what world would a competent balance designer would look at close positions on shattered temple and think it was balanced, so much to the pt where it stayed on the ladder for over a year? They have done nothing but consistently fuck up matchups or not address glaring issues over and over again. Blizzard is utterly incompetent.
that is no argument at all. DK isn't playing sc2 full time he is actually working ons sc2 fulltime. why would he be gm? because he knows theblacksheepwall?! or thepoweroverwhelming?! Certainly not. Why would the lead designer need to be a gm? maybe his apm are below 20 or his decision making is TERRIBLE in certain situations. who cares, it says nothing about his abilities to do his job. period.They have testers and statistic guys to analyse hundreds of thousands of games and yet the whole system MUST be flawed because one guy is gold. It's like saying the manager of a soccer team needs to be the best player in the world... HotS ais tons of fun, it has improved massively during beta and if u want to criticise do it in a constructive way or leave, coz otherwise u r not gonna achieve anything even if u had beneficial ideas.
For some reasons there is a small section of the community who things that people who make games should also be at the top level of play, for some unknown reason. After all, that standard does not work if you apply it to any other profession in the entire world. People who write the rules in sports are not the professional players. People who write laws are not the best attorneys in the world. But for some reason, you can use the fact that DK and DB are not GM on ever ladder is a reason why they cannot design a game.
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I am aware of that. And I m also aware that David Kim is a high level ex professional player. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/David_Kim . The balance department is a team where as they all work together, sure Dustin is gold or whatever, but his expertise is in something else in relation to balance. If it were up to a 'gold level' player wouldn't you see actual ridiculed patches rather than an actual attempt to balance? Like I said, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing.
Ha Ha Ha
You are funny mate. You know what Dustin Browder calls "Micro"? Turning banshee cloak on/off (seriously).
They give terran a hellbat, which can be healed and flown by super speed medivacs, which rapes all zerglings and drones in seconds and even amazing vs. roaches.
On February 06 2013 06:21 Sc2Wrath wrote: I can't believe they want to Nerf the Infestor some more, whilst still not getting other compensation on Lair tech units. I guess I can hope Swarm host is worked out, and becomes useful.
Hydra and Swarm Host and Muta changes are enough mid game strength. Hydra speed might not look like much on paper, but when combined with Roaches or Swarm Hosts you have a very powerful force. It's more about the composition synergy making them viable than direct changes to the Hydra.
The swarm host is useful. People are just slow to learn to use it properly. Check out blades thread and massive swarm host replay pack. As you can see from his replays the true strength of Zerg comes from using a big mix of Zerg units. I feel that many Zerg players think that if they can't mass 1-2 units and win that Zerg is broken, and hope that changes with HoTS.
On February 06 2013 06:31 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I hope you're aware than Dustin, Kim and the rest of the team base balance on the massive amounts of data they collect from us playing games. I hope you're aware that Dustin is not ashamed of his rank, and clearly does not base balance on low level play. I hope your aware that when the game goes retail the massive increase in data collected from the massive non-beta player base will be the first time Blizzard has real data to analyse to help balance the game. I hope your aware than BW and most other RTS require balancing after release for the reasons mentioned above.
Data doesn't mean shit if you cannot assess and apply the data properly. Moreover, you're presuming that the data they are using is indicative of balance which it may or may not. I know one thing is for certain, that is the lead balance designer of the game is a gold level terran. This fact alone is enough for me to have no faith in Blizzard. Honestly, what world do you live in? It took them over a fucking year for them to remove close positions on some of their ladder maps and you think they know how to balance a game? In what world would a competent balance designer would look at close positions on shattered temple and think it was balanced, so much to the pt where it stayed on the ladder for over a year? They have done nothing but consistently fuck up matchups or not address glaring issues over and over again. Blizzard is utterly incompetent.
Lol. Everybody knows that Dustin Browder (as well as everybody else in the balance team) does not have a main race. Well, I guess everybody that does not miss such facts over unreflected hatred...
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I am aware of that. And I m also aware that David Kim is a high level ex professional player. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/David_Kim . The balance department is a team where as they all work together, sure Dustin is gold or whatever, but his expertise is in something else in relation to balance. If it were up to a 'gold level' player wouldn't you see actual ridiculed patches rather than an actual attempt to balance? Like I said, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing.
Ha Ha Ha
You are funny mate. You know what Dustin Browder calls "Micro"? Turning banshee cloak on/off (seriously).
They give terran a hellbat, which can be healed and flown by super speed medivacs, which rapes all zerglings and drones in seconds and even amazing vs. roaches.
Yes indeed very funny. That zerg did not scout the all in by the terran? Not to include terrible micro by the zerg. As you can see, the attempt to bring overlord speed to tier 1 will help to provide scouting abilities to detect these all in plays.
Lol at everyone who thinks David Kim is not testing all these things. Blizzard spends so much money and time testing every single scenario. Much more than any of you think. Have any of you been to their HQ in California? Probably not. They have weekly meetings going over all of our concerns from their BNET forums to TL. The fact that people just randomely assume they have no idea what they are doing is ignorant. Obviously you like the game enough to post on these forums constantly so don't say they don't know what they are doing or the game is completely unbalanced.
I am not saying the game is balanced completely now but I am confident Blizzard will find a way. Most pro's agree and major organizations like KESPA also agree. So sit on your computer chairs in your comfy rooms and act like you know everything. Just know Blizzard is trying to suit our needs and is actively listening. The more bullshit noob opinions these threads have the worse it is. I thought TeamLiquid was going to address this problem but has not yet and it is aggrivating seeing so much opinion from people who obviously know very little. Stop bandwagoning and try taking emotion out of it and see the truth.
On February 06 2013 07:34 Niska wrote: Lol at everyone who thinks David Kim is not testing all these things. Blizzard spends so much money and time testing every single scenario. Much more than any of you think. Have any of you been to their HQ in California? Probably not. They have weekly meetings going over all of our concerns from their BNET forums to TL. The fact that people just randomely assume they have no idea what they are doing is ignorant. Obviously you like the game enough to post on these forums constantly so don't say they don't know what they are doing or the game is completely unbalanced.
I am not saying the game is balanced completely now but I am confident Blizzard will find a way. Most pro's agree and major organizations like KESPA also agree. So sit on your computer chairs in your comfy rooms and act like you know everything. Just know Blizzard is trying to suit our needs and is actively listening. The more bullshit noob opinions these threads have the worse it is. I thought TeamLiquid was going to address this problem but has not yet and it is aggrivating seeing so much opinion from people who obviously know very little. Stop bandwagoning and try taking emotion out of it and see the truth.
On February 06 2013 07:34 Niska wrote: Lol at everyone who thinks David Kim is not testing all these things. Blizzard spends so much money and time testing every single scenario. Much more than any of you think. Have any of you been to their HQ in California? Probably not. They have weekly meetings going over all of our concerns from their BNET forums to TL. The fact that people just randomely assume they have no idea what they are doing is ignorant. Obviously you like the game enough to post on these forums constantly so don't say they don't know what they are doing or the game is completely unbalanced.
I am not saying the game is balanced completely now but I am confident Blizzard will find a way. Most pro's agree and major organizations like KESPA also agree. So sit on your computer chairs in your comfy rooms and act like you know everything. Just know Blizzard is trying to suit our needs and is actively listening. The more bullshit noob opinions these threads have the worse it is. I thought TeamLiquid was going to address this problem but has not yet and it is aggrivating seeing so much opinion from people who obviously know very little. Stop bandwagoning and try taking emotion out of it and see the truth.
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I am aware of that. And I m also aware that David Kim is a high level ex professional player. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/David_Kim . The balance department is a team where as they all work together, sure Dustin is gold or whatever, but his expertise is in something else in relation to balance. If it were up to a 'gold level' player wouldn't you see actual ridiculed patches rather than an actual attempt to balance? Like I said, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing.
Ha Ha Ha
You are funny mate. You know what Dustin Browder calls "Micro"? Turning banshee cloak on/off (seriously).
They give terran a hellbat, which can be healed and flown by super speed medivacs, which rapes all zerglings and drones in seconds and even amazing vs. roaches.
Yes indeed very funny. That zerg did not scout the all in by the terran? Not to include terrible micro by the zerg. As you can see, the attempt to bring overlord speed to tier 1 will help to provide scouting abilities to detect these all in plays.
All in? Terran has 3 CC while Zerg is on 2 bases... LOL...
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I am aware of that. And I m also aware that David Kim is a high level ex professional player. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/David_Kim . The balance department is a team where as they all work together, sure Dustin is gold or whatever, but his expertise is in something else in relation to balance. If it were up to a 'gold level' player wouldn't you see actual ridiculed patches rather than an actual attempt to balance? Like I said, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing.
Ha Ha Ha
You are funny mate. You know what Dustin Browder calls "Micro"? Turning banshee cloak on/off (seriously).
They give terran a hellbat, which can be healed and flown by super speed medivacs, which rapes all zerglings and drones in seconds and even amazing vs. roaches.
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I am aware of that. And I m also aware that David Kim is a high level ex professional player. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/David_Kim . The balance department is a team where as they all work together, sure Dustin is gold or whatever, but his expertise is in something else in relation to balance. If it were up to a 'gold level' player wouldn't you see actual ridiculed patches rather than an actual attempt to balance? Like I said, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing.
Ha Ha Ha
You are funny mate. You know what Dustin Browder calls "Micro"? Turning banshee cloak on/off (seriously).
They give terran a hellbat, which can be healed and flown by super speed medivacs, which rapes all zerglings and drones in seconds and even amazing vs. roaches.
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I am aware of that. And I m also aware that David Kim is a high level ex professional player. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/David_Kim . The balance department is a team where as they all work together, sure Dustin is gold or whatever, but his expertise is in something else in relation to balance. If it were up to a 'gold level' player wouldn't you see actual ridiculed patches rather than an actual attempt to balance? Like I said, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing.
Ha Ha Ha
You are funny mate. You know what Dustin Browder calls "Micro"? Turning banshee cloak on/off (seriously).
They give terran a hellbat, which can be healed and flown by super speed medivacs, which rapes all zerglings and drones in seconds and even amazing vs. roaches.
8 units that cost the same as a zealot, healed by 2 medivacs :D
I'm literally laughing at how stupid this game is. This is actually amazing that the greatest strategy game and E-sports of all time's sequel.. and then sequel's expansion, is so bad.
This game is so dead :D
I've actually stopped giving a f*** at the current mess that is Starcraft 2. I really like TL, and I might go into DOTA2, but every passing day brings me further away from this stupid game. I'm supposed to go play at a lan in a month, so I should be motivated into playing a few games, but I have not touched neither WoL or HoTS in a few months. It is beyond amazing how they could be this clueless.
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I am aware of that. And I m also aware that David Kim is a high level ex professional player. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/David_Kim . The balance department is a team where as they all work together, sure Dustin is gold or whatever, but his expertise is in something else in relation to balance. If it were up to a 'gold level' player wouldn't you see actual ridiculed patches rather than an actual attempt to balance? Like I said, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing.
Ha Ha Ha
You are funny mate. You know what Dustin Browder calls "Micro"? Turning banshee cloak on/off (seriously).
They give terran a hellbat, which can be healed and flown by super speed medivacs, which rapes all zerglings and drones in seconds and even amazing vs. roaches.
Ha Ha Ha Well hello mr patchzerg. Are you unfamiliar with not having OP queens shut down all openings by your opponent by default? Are you unfamiliar with having to make strategic or tactical decisions other than when to push "F"? The Terran in that video (QXC) went all in with superior tech and professional level micro and nothing more needs to be said. If you want suggestions on how to counter the build try building spines for defense (instead of slow-roach and slow-ling without even connecting the natural with creep).
On February 06 2013 06:17 bobsire wrote: I hate how people say that Blizzard have no idea on what they are doing. The truth is they have a much deeper understanding of the game than any of us. They have numerous professional players that test/give meaningful advice and criticism. The keyword here is 'professional' meaning these players play starcraft 2 as their main job. In addition, their balance team are all high level players (high gm). Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing. Half the people here are complaining that the changes they are making are useless/ deemed stupid, which they are certainly not. I bet half of you don't even play the game (Hots), yet if you do, your probably under diamond, where your input certainly does not contribute from real skill or experience.
HotS is coming along nicely. The expansion is much different than WoL and also very similar at the same time. Yes it is a better game than WoL and will become even more better with time. Nothing is made perfect ,it takes time to refine and polish. Be patient and let the game develop. As of now, the path upon that Hots is travelling is a good one. Balance is becoming increasingly more accurate, where skill is the only variable that allows deviation upon the races. Practice more and stop complaining (to the people who are simply acting like whining little babies).
I hope you're aware that the LEAD balance designer for HOTS is Dustin Browder. I hope you're aware that Dustin Browder is a gold/plat level terran on the NA server. That means that the person with final say on HOTS balance is a gold/plat level player. Blizzard has no clue what they are doing. Do not fool yourself.
I am aware of that. And I m also aware that David Kim is a high level ex professional player. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/David_Kim . The balance department is a team where as they all work together, sure Dustin is gold or whatever, but his expertise is in something else in relation to balance. If it were up to a 'gold level' player wouldn't you see actual ridiculed patches rather than an actual attempt to balance? Like I said, Blizzard knows exactly what they are doing.
Ha Ha Ha
You are funny mate. You know what Dustin Browder calls "Micro"? Turning banshee cloak on/off (seriously).
They give terran a hellbat, which can be healed and flown by super speed medivacs, which rapes all zerglings and drones in seconds and even amazing vs. roaches.
Yes indeed very funny. That zerg did not scout the all in by the terran? Not to include terrible micro by the zerg. As you can see, the attempt to bring overlord speed to tier 1 will help to provide scouting abilities to detect these all in plays.
All in? Terran has 3 CC while Zerg is on 2 bases... LOL...
umm I don't see the second cc built until 9 :19 in game. Please share the stuff your smoking, must be pretty good.
On February 06 2013 07:34 Niska wrote: Lol at everyone who thinks David Kim is not testing all these things. Blizzard spends so much money and time testing every single scenario. Much more than any of you think. Have any of you been to their HQ in California? Probably not. They have weekly meetings going over all of our concerns from their BNET forums to TL. The fact that people just randomely assume they have no idea what they are doing is ignorant. Obviously you like the game enough to post on these forums constantly so don't say they don't know what they are doing or the game is completely unbalanced.
I am not saying the game is balanced completely now but I am confident Blizzard will find a way. Most pro's agree and major organizations like KESPA also agree. So sit on your computer chairs in your comfy rooms and act like you know everything. Just know Blizzard is trying to suit our needs and is actively listening. The more bullshit noob opinions these threads have the worse it is. I thought TeamLiquid was going to address this problem but has not yet and it is aggrivating seeing so much opinion from people who obviously know very little. Stop bandwagoning and try taking emotion out of it and see the truth.
I could not agree more. I often disagree with the decisions Blizzard makes, but they spend a lot of time and effort developing this game. Blizzard wants Starcraft 2 to be a game that is fun and engaging to watch and play as much as we do.
On February 06 2013 07:15 sagefreke wrote: Lol@ blizzards justification for Hydras not being weak.
The reason why everyone is building Hydralisks now is because THAT'S THE ONLY THING LEFT THAT WASN'T NERFED... Infestors- Nerfed Infested Terrans- Nerfed Corruptors- completely demolished by the new Void Ray. (And no innovative or promised changes to this boring unit, which has been discussed by Dustin before the beta was even released) Queens- too slow Mutas-ripped to shreds by Phoenix and Carriers
Hydras are the only unit left that is even remotely cost effective for Zerg. It's not like Zerg has a choice in the matter when all other AA options have been nerfed into the ground or just flat out lose.
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