Beta Balance Update #9 - Page 17

On December 13 2012 11:14 Maxd11 wrote:
I just want the beta to work on my Apple OS again! PLEASE AND THANK YOU!
Also these changes look like more goodness except mutas ?might? be too good in zvp and zvz now?

On December 13 2012 11:21 clever_us wrote:


I too am hoping that they fix it for macs ASAP

On December 13 2012 10:14 Plansix wrote:


Um, because protoss have shields that make up 50% the HP for a ton of core units? Zerg have have a whole upgrade that only affects 2 units?(melee) And protoss is crushing people with that extra 125/125 minerals and gas. That whole stalker and part of a senty wins me games all the time.

On December 13 2012 10:56 Beakyboo wrote:
Just go back to all mech/ship upgrades shared. I really don't think it's overpowered. It's hard to justify these upgrades without a really odd and likely impractical unit composition.

The mutalisk buff is interesting too. I think something along those lines could definitely help them to stay relevant in their role as a harass unit without making them overpowered.

On December 13 2012 11:20 SoBeDragon wrote:
My initial thoughts of this patch bring me back to QXC's, fixing the game. I agree that passive abilities are boring and don't make for interesting play. If the idea is to make mutas regen health faster, than perhaps instead of a passive ability, the muta can get something that gives health based on their glaive worm attack. Or maybe even successful attacks have a chance to proc a health regen. I'm not sure...I like the buff, but not the execution of it.

On December 13 2012 11:32 TheDraken wrote:


absolutely not. being able to go from 3/3 thors into 3/3 viking battlecruisers without researching anything else is ridiculous.

On December 13 2012 11:35 Mattumsfox wrote:


Still have to add 4-5 ports with tech labs and a fusion core and research yamato cannon.

On December 13 2012 07:34 eviltomahawk wrote:
Medivac
Caduceus Reactor
The Medivac’s healing beam now changes color once the Caduceus Reactor upgrade is complete.
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On December 13 2012 11:20 SoBeDragon wrote:
My initial thoughts of this patch bring me back to QXC's, fixing the game. I agree that passive abilities are boring and don't make for interesting play. If the idea is to make mutas regen health faster, than perhaps instead of a passive ability, the muta can get something that gives health based on their glaive worm attack. Or maybe even successful attacks have a chance to proc a health regen. I'm not sure...I like the buff, but not the execution of it.

On December 13 2012 11:37 willoc wrote:


Why such a big Terran nerf?!?!?!!?

On December 13 2012 11:40 InoyouS2 wrote:


I agree that passive abilities are kinda boring, but the WORST thing by far we can have in an RTS game as complex as SC2 is proc chance.

On December 13 2012 11:53 wcr.4fun wrote:
I would buy hots if:

- removed thor
- added goliath (possibly with really small splash to air, reason see below)
- add air stacking (not as an ability obvious, but by using an overlord or larvae added to your group or via another method)
- add moving shot to game
- revert passive regeneration on mutalisk
- remove swarm host, make the lurker somehow work
(-remove collussus? Add other more interesting and skill requiring unit)
- remove widow mine
- add spider mine to reaper/hellion/... whatever fits best
- change fungal to plague
- change consume from absorbing builing heatlth to destroying a unit (bw version)
- change blinding cloud to dark swarm (toned down perhaps, percentage based damage reduction? like 80 percent or something)
- Make ultralisks smaller
- change general pathing of units to allow better control (see bw) and destroy deathball
- require less workers per base for saturation meaning less income per base and thus allowing more options (low econ games vs high econ games)
- significantly tone down spawn larvae/mule and chronoboost
- give cooldown advantage to gateways versus warp gates

I think this is everything.
Obviously balance any issues which may arise through these changes

On December 13 2012 12:00 neoghaleon55 wrote:


Why don't we just play BW...
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On December 13 2012 11:53 wcr.4fun wrote:
I would buy hots if:

- removed thor
- added goliath (possibly with really small splash to air, reason see below)
- add air stacking (not as an ability obvious, but by using an overlord or larvae added to your group or via another method)
- add moving shot to game
- revert passive regeneration on mutalisk
- remove swarm host, make the lurker somehow work
(-remove collussus? Add other more interesting and skill requiring unit)
- remove widow mine
- add spider mine to reaper/hellion/... whatever fits best
- change fungal to plague
- change consume from absorbing builing heatlth to destroying a unit (bw version)
- change blinding cloud to dark swarm (toned down perhaps, percentage based damage reduction? like 80 percent or something)
- Make ultralisks smaller
- change general pathing of units to allow better control (see bw) and destroy deathball
- require less workers per base for saturation meaning less income per base and thus allowing more options (low econ games vs high econ games)
- significantly tone down spawn larvae/mule and chronoboost
- give cooldown advantage to gateways versus warp gates

I think this is everything.
Obviously balance any issues which may arise through these changes

On December 13 2012 12:10 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
for anyone curious about the medivac's upgraded beam color:

http://www.twitch.tv/krazytrumpeter05/b/347585402?t=1m15s