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HOTS Patch notes [9/14/2012] - Page 18

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Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
September 14 2012 18:57 GMT
#341
On September 15 2012 03:55 SupLilSon wrote:
Thank god... let's just hope everyone who was responsible for the design of the Warhound and the removal of the carrier were fired.. No one could understand such stupid decisions..


Yes, let's fire everyone that correctly identified that Terran mech sucked against Protoss and advocated the removal of a unit no one fucking used up until the very moment it was removed, at which point everyone was crying about how it was used more often than battlecruisers, the standard go to unit in TvT and the increasingly standard end game TvZ unit.

You can be happy the Warhound is removed - god knows I am - but don't say such stupid things.
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
September 14 2012 18:57 GMT
#342
So terrans loose the raven buff, the bc buff, the warhound, get a nerf to the helion and just get a buff to the reaper and a shorter tech tree to a shitty unit ? Oo glad i was thinking of switching away from random as i would hate to roll terran now
foxmulder_ms
Profile Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
September 14 2012 18:57 GMT
#343
OMG!!!! too good to be TRUE so EXCITED!@!!!!!!@!@!@!@!!
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
September 14 2012 18:57 GMT
#344
I cannot believe this! They actually removed the warhound! I'm pleasantly surprised.
Fluxx
Profile Joined July 2008
Netherlands58 Posts
September 14 2012 18:57 GMT
#345
Is there anywhere on TL that I can view all the new additions that HotS brings for each race?
Because I can only think of Terran getting the reaper upgrade (combat regeneration from the battlereports), the battle hellion, the widow mine, and thats it?
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
September 14 2012 18:57 GMT
#346
I don't even play SC2 but CARRIER YES!
KayoDot
Profile Joined October 2011
33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:07:26
September 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#347
Now you can just put a widow mine at a Zerg's third early in the game and they can't take it until lair...

edit: nvm you can just sac a ling
An airplane, a puppet, an orange, a spoon, a window, and outside Stars and the moon.
osmanic
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany200 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:58:39
September 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#348
maaaaaaan that new oracle spell sounds really cool , the oracle as a unit itself got a lot more interesting for me now
imagine lategame pvz a few oracles protecting your blink stalkers from getting fungalled and you can blink easier under broodlords and snipe them - really cool^^

the fact that you can protect your mothership better vs neural parasite is cool also^^

and obviously - the return of our beloved carrier, made my day

the removal of warhound is the right choice imo, to take the step and give it a try to redesign it! respect blizzard !

i like the patch, all changes - good job blizzard
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tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
September 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#349
Carrier is back?

WARHOUND IS REMOVED?

"I wonder if there is a league below copper? If so, I would like to inhabit it." -TotalBiscuit "In the event of a sudden change in cabin pressure, ROOF FLIES OFF!" -George Carlin <3 HerO <3 Kiwikaki <3 MKP
YouthSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom355 Posts
September 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#350
wOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW this is awesome, blizzard listening to its users!
The more I practice, the luckier I get!
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
September 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#351
best part
immortal
"Immortal Hardened Shield will now reduce the warhound’s Haywire Missile damage."

warhound
"This unit has been removed from the game."
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 19:02:03
September 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#352
Awesome. As I was reading through the changes, I got to Phase Shield and started thinking "man this has a lot of potential mixed with carriers" and became sad. Then saw carrier is coming back and OMGZ!

I'm picturing some really cool looking protoss armies with the phase shield, carriers, and tempests. I was really disappointed with oracle's potential before this patch, but now I think the phase shield will open up a ton of cool potential and become a staple of any late game protoss army. Extra micro, extra decision making, it feels like it should raise protoss skill ceiling a lot now instead of just being a boring "you like harass? here ya go" unit.

Didn't they say at one point that it was going to also provide temporary cloak as a skill? That would be a pretty amazing addition here ^^ Add that and I'd be ok with mothership going away. Maybe mothership core could stay and you can spawn oracles with it XD ok just rambling now...

*edit* Oh also, I feel like a lot of these great changes have to do with this secret pro forum I heard Geoff mention on ItG. I'm starting to feel confident that if blizzard stays open minded and listens to the pro community, this game will continue to go in the right direction.
Osteriet
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark149 Posts
September 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#353
Now if they sack that damn Colossus I might just play that game again :O
TheSymbiont
Profile Joined April 2012
United States7 Posts
September 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#354
Missile Attack upgrade has been corrected to increase locust damage in increments of 1 instead of 2.

That's actually quite a stealth nerf/fix.
haroz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Australia707 Posts
September 14 2012 18:59 GMT
#355
On September 15 2012 03:10 ROOTFayth wrote:
hahaha AWESOME

immortal buffed vs warhound

warhound removed

hurrrrrrrr


ahahahahaah!
LOST MY PASSION
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
September 14 2012 18:59 GMT
#356
DUDE, oracle can nullify things like fungal?

Hold me guys, blizzard are making correct choices for the first time in just 5 years.
TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
September 14 2012 18:59 GMT
#357
Carrier<333
''you got to yolo things up to win''
foxmulder_ms
Profile Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
September 14 2012 18:59 GMT
#358
wait.... the link is broken... is this just trolling???? Really to good to be true!
ToD
Profile Joined December 2008
France222 Posts
September 14 2012 19:00 GMT
#359
Hell, It's about GOD DAMN TIME !!!!!!!!
Commentator
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 14 2012 19:00 GMT
#360
oh sad seeker missile is back to overpriced 125 energy. Oh and you can lower reaper build time too Blizzard, barracks now take longer need depots ... and most of all factory for speed.
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