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HOTS Patch notes [9/14/2012] - Page 14

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DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
September 14 2012 18:44 GMT
#261
CARRRRRRRRIERRRRRU!!!!

Also Protoss death ball even stronger with Oracle now! YES! GOGO BLIZZARD!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:44:37
September 14 2012 18:44 GMT
#262
Also, LOL at the massive Terran nerfs, for no other reasons than Terran feel like the most hard done by race, Avilo's gonna be piiiissed.
Genuinly hope this turns out balanced, though I'm not too happy with the direction the Tempest has taken (though starting off with full range is good, even if the range has been reduced) it'd be cool if Tempest was good against Brood Lord's due to the 2 units characteristics, not just because it gets a numerical bonus against them.
Also, T_T why nerf Raven? 100 energy Seeker missile was cool yo!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
MiND.GaMeS
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany218 Posts
September 14 2012 18:44 GMT
#263
After reading through a the patchnotes in detail and thinking a bit about it i think this is one of the best patches they made so far (including whole WoL patching progress).

it makes sense in every possible aspect. Warhound was a better version of the marauder, which already was a fckin strong unit against stuff like stalkers AND roaches or tanks. Warhound filled the same role but was faster, stronger and had more HP.

Another thing: I'd really like to see skytoss now. Carrier+Tempest sounds like a fckin viable composition because u cant simply make corruptors to counter it (thanks to tempest + massive dmg now). Combined with the really high DPS of carriers zerg have to work more with hydras/infestors/spores/vipers to counter it instead of just pressing the corruptor button like it was in WoL :-)

Thx for that great patch Blizzard, i already think it will drastically change lategame PvZ even though i think making Carriers AND Tempests is reaaally expensive ^^ both cost a ton
HerO / MC / Grubby / Rain / Dear / Naniwa // Also make sure to check out my Blog: http://sc2mindgames.com/category/blog/
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
September 14 2012 18:44 GMT
#264
so they expect terran player to pay 40 or so euro for a gimmicky stealth unit and a variation of an existing one? how about no, blizz.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
September 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#265
So apparently, you can now build both Hellions and Battle-Hellions from the Factory, the latter only if you have an Armory. Having an Armory will also then allow you to research Transformation Servos so that both Hellion and Battle-Hellion will be able to transform to the other type and back.

New hellion upgrade: Transformation Servos -- allows hellions to change to Battle mode

In TvZ, battle hellions with good split micro are performing a bit too well against zergling/baneling openers. Therefore, we are adding an upgrade requirement to change modes, giving zerg players more time to make the necessary adjustments to their unit composition.

Battle mode hellions can be built from the Factory

After testing this unit in the beta, we are starting to see scenarios where building only hellions, only battle hellions, or having a choice of both are all reasonable decisions. Therefore, we would like to try allowing players to build these units separately while keeping the ability to transform between modes a viable option.
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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:45:37
September 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#266
--- Nuked ---
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
September 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#267
PvP stalemate has been impacted. I look forward to these changes :D
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Masayume
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:58:59
September 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#268
Is it not better to rework Fungal Growth instead of adding a "dispel" to only one race. Now you are almost required to go into SG tech as Protoss lategame, and T/Z still get rooted by Fungal.

Add to that the fact that those other spells excluding Vortex don't have nearly the same impact, and I feel like the current change might not be the most well-rounded one long-term.

Changing Fungal would also make SG tech more viable, while also helping out Terrans and Zergs. As it is right now, fungal offers too much when it comes to control + damage. Change it to a slow or make it dodgeable, which also promotes micro and changes the dynamic of the spell. Trying to look at this from multiple angles.
Balance. Enjoy the process instead of focusing on musts.
Zojukanji
Profile Joined June 2011
China393 Posts
September 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#269
Great patch. It seems like blizzard is listening this time around.
do it!
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
September 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#270
On September 15 2012 03:42 RepublicansAreIdiots wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 03:40 Josh111 wrote:
On September 15 2012 03:35 M7Jagger wrote:
Lol @ all the people saying warhound isn't mech, how is it not mech? Mech is short ofr "mechanical" and warhound is a mechanical unit. And don't post the blog some guy posted saying siege tank is the only mech unit.


Peopel say its not mech becauase historically mech has always been an army where if you have the correct positioning and patience you are rewarded with one of or the strongest army in the game.

The warhound however negates the "patience and positioning" part of the description becuase its mobile and is used like you would use bio..

The warhound was a bio unit not a mech unit.



um, no. It's a mech unit. Its made from the Factory.


By your logic Goliath is a bio unit. And hellion and every other factory unit besides Siege tank, thor, and mines.


Please let me know how the warhound is any different from a marauder without stim and with it's stats changed. Being made from a factory doesn't make it mech. The goliath functions in a fundamentally different way to bio units in it's movement, it's attack and most importantly it's place in how the game works.
Rimak
Profile Joined January 2012
Denmark434 Posts
September 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#271
On September 15 2012 03:37 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Wonder what is going to replace the warhound, if anything.

I think they will redisign the warhound and give it back.



p.s. CARRIER!!!!!!!!!!
DAMIT im sooo happpy now!!!
2000 Jungler 66% Hecarim, 63% Volibear, 60% Jarvan IV
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
September 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#272
On September 15 2012 03:07 Torte de Lini wrote:
Balance Update #2[9/14/2012]

Show nested quote +
We will be taking the beta server down this morning to make the following updates. Thanks for participating in this beta and providing us with all of your great feedback!

Oracle
  • We have removed the oracle’s Preordain ability. We have added a new area of effect ability for the oracle called Phase Shield.
    Targeted friendly units are shielded from harmful effects for 5 seconds. Fungal Growth, Corruption, Contaminate, Graviton Beam, Concussive Shells, Abduct, Revelation, Vortex, and 250mm Strike Cannons – Phase Shield removes the effect and prevents units from being affected. EMP – Phase Shield removes the anti-cloaking effect but not the damage dealt. Neural Parasite – Phase Shield will not remove this effect but it will prevent units from being affected.

    • Immortal Hardened Shield will now reduce the warhound’s Haywire Missile damage.



The only reason I think this Phase Shift ability is stupid is that this is turning SC2 more into a Dota or WoW game more and more everyday. In WoW you get debuffed....dispel dispel dispel...debuffed again....dispel dispel hurry fucking dispel.

Second example of silly mechanics. the Viper's stupid Abduct ability also is WoW and Dota type spellcasting business, "GET OVER HERE." This doesn't seem fitting for SC2 rts, I mean reallly?

- Oh crap he's going to Get-over-here me, Phase Shield Phase Shield!!
partysnatcher
Profile Joined August 2010
156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 18:46:56
September 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#273
On September 15 2012 03:39 RMonkeyF wrote:
Toss qq's, gets carrier.

Terrans happy for once, lose warhound.

Terrans will qq, will lose marine.

lolsc2.


Blizzard do their thing - people complain.
Blizzard man up like hell and decide to include a bunch of gamer kids in their professional decisions - people complain.

Terran have enough features in this game as it is. Blizzard have temporarily pulled out the warhound to make the beta metagame progress to a more normal state. Blizz have already asked for suggestions, and are bringing back a type of warhound when they have it figured out.
Clarityxo
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland174 Posts
September 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#274
The carrierrrrrrrr!
Hooray <3
JamesArk
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada37 Posts
September 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#275
Wait, why did they make it so Hardended Shield reduces the Warhound's Haywire Missile damage, and then also remove Warhounds lol?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25998 Posts
September 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#276
On September 15 2012 03:39 RMonkeyF wrote:
Toss qq's, gets carrier.

Terrans happy for once, lose warhound.

Terrans will qq, will lose marine.

lolsc2.

Who was happy about the Warhound? Avilo made a post about his issues with it, and last time I checked he played Terran
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
September 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#277
Overall looks to be good, but can Terran get a good replacement for the Warhound please? It was a horrible design from the beginning, but at least it was something. . .can I get some new toys to play with, please?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
capri1290
Profile Joined July 2012
United States18 Posts
September 14 2012 18:47 GMT
#278
Does anyone else feel that the nee ability for the oracle makes mass colosus deathball play multitudes strongerr? I don't mind the change on its own but wasn't the whole point of viper and new units to break up the death ball?
This problem illustrates the biggest problem with the game right now and pvx which is the over reliance of the over powered ill designed colosssus. As a community looking to make the game more spectator freindly and balanced we should push for the redesign of this unit to really make a change for the better in hots.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
September 14 2012 18:47 GMT
#279
I would like to see either tank supply reduced to 2 or damage increased. I'm curious to see how that would benefit mech play.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Josh111
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
September 14 2012 18:47 GMT
#280
On September 15 2012 03:43 Cove wrote:
Yeah... people talking about Haywire vs. Immortal and gg Warhound. They'll obviously be bringing it back after substantial changes in the future. Common sense people, come on.


But if they are forced to change the unit who knows what it will be like.. chances are it wont even have the haywire missle move, so its still fair to laugh at blizzard changing the immortal for a unit that is not in the game and has a chance of never being in the game..

common sense cove come on
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