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Kharnage
Australia920 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:01 aZealot wrote: @ kharnage: Try New Zealand.  I rather like SEA, although, there are a lot of Zergs. I would, but I don't have a dialup modem  | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
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Crysack
Australia94 Posts
On September 05 2012 13:55 Cabinet Sanchez wrote: Why aren't you playing on the SEA servers with the Australian players which Blizzard was generous enough to build for you!!! + Show Spoiler + just kidding, fuck that server Funnily enough, with the way the pipes are constructed, the NA server is actually less laggy than the SEA server for a large portion of the Aus ISPs. For a large percentage of us, the route to the SEA server goes through 50 different countries before arriving in Singapore whereas we have a fat pipe going straight to LA. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:03 Kharnage wrote: I would, but I don't have a dialup modem Hahaha! I lol'd irl. Nice one. :D | ||
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Kharnage
Australia920 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:01 Dosey wrote: I feel like it would take me longer to squint and see that text than it would to box my minerals and instantly count how many workers I have. If there was an HUD that gave you your worker count for every base, then I could see cause for the complaints. But this? QQers are silly. Actually, now that I think about it, by hotkeying your bases you can tap through and check saturation without having to look at the base at all. Not sure i like that at all. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
Total Actions needed for Masters League per game: 13 + Show Spoiler + Send units to mine Rally hatch to minerals select drone make pool select larva (all) make drone make drone select larva (all) make zergling (3 times) select zerglings attack move HotS Total Actions needed for Masters League per game: 11 + Show Spoiler + select drone make pool select larva (all) make drone make drone select larva (all) make zergling (3 times) select zerglings (use the select all army button, its really hard to select small zerglings!) attack move HotS is 15.38% mechanically easier than WoL and I wont stand for it. Boycotting blizzard right now. + Show Spoiler + This is satire. | ||
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation484 Posts
On September 05 2012 13:53 Kharnage wrote: geysers already give you worker count in WoL townhall worker count is new. not sure if i oppose the ide or not. would save me all of 1 sec as i box my harvesters to check the count, and i'm only high plat. Very little actual effect at my skill level, so pretty much no effect diamond and up. so honestly? I don't care. Tiny shit being easier for mid plat and lower is all gravy if you ask me. Won't stop their macro and mechanics from being bad, but might at least tell them that they have too many or too few workers. It's not like they will suddenly hit every scv until optimum saturation and never miss a round of production. On September 05 2012 14:05 Kharnage wrote: Actually, now that I think about it, by hotkeying your bases you can tap through and check saturation without having to look at the base at all. Not sure i like that at all. Why are you talking about things without seeing them? Saying geysers already show you something in WoL gives you out. In HotS there is floating text above Town Halls and geysers showing saturation. You can't see it by simply selecting, you see it by getting it in your cam vision. http://i.imgur.com/oB1TN.jpg | ||
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PauseBreak
United States270 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:01 Veldril wrote: I don't really think the worker count and auto-mining are problem at all. Pro and top players should be able to check it just by having a glace at the base right now, so it does not make any different. SC2 right now need an injection of new players, so I think anything that make learning the game faster/easier is a good thing. I don't think making the game easier is the correct move to bring players in. The game already isn't that complicated but I think the major issue is that Ladder is really scary to some people. That's why most people play Team Games because there is more blame to pass around than on just one person, namely, you or me in a 1s game. That's just my opinion. What about Larva Inject? That's a difficult mechanic for new people to learn and be consistent with. Should Blizzard just make that auto too now? Seriously, Larva Inject although not too hard for the more seasoned player is tough to handle as a new player. And just causally making it an auto skill would drastically change the game. I hope I've made my point clear with that situation. As not to be polarizing the community, but making things auto, just for the sake of or in the name of "new players" is a path this game should not be taking. It starts small, and gets bigger. That's why I am so passionate about it now. I'm not throwing chairs and tossing tables. I just believe that chipping away small pieces now is going to make it easier for a cave in later. | ||
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SilentShout
686 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:07 aZealot wrote: Good thing you put that last spoiler in, vaderseven. Some people may actually have taken you seriously. The fact that your post is edited makes me think you did lol. Point is, auto mine at game start is a silly thing to care about. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:10 PauseBreak wrote: I don't think making the game easier is the correct move to bring players in. The game already isn't that complicated but I think the major issue is that Ladder is really scary to some people. That's why most people play Team Games because there is more blame to pass around than on just one person, namely, you or me in a 1s game. That's just my opinion. What about Larva Inject? That's a difficult mechanic for new people to learn and be consistent with. Should Blizzard just make that auto too now? Seriously, Larva Inject although not too hard for the more seasoned player is tough to handle as a new player. And just causally making it an auto skill would drastically change the game. I hope I've made my point clear with that situation. As not to be polarizing the community, but making things auto, just for the sake of or in the name of "new players" is a path this game should not be taking. It starts small, and gets bigger. That's why I am so passionate about it now. I'm not throwing chairs and tossing tables. I just believe that chipping away small pieces now is going to make it easier for a cave in later. Exactly. Larvae inject is a difficult mechanic and adds to the skill of a game. Counting is not difficult it is not a mechanic. Anyone should be able to count. Glancing at you base to see your saturation takes a split second. Boxing minerals if you aren't sure takes another split second. Looking at the number above your hatch takes that same split second. What in the world changes here? Now if you want to make the argument that it harms the dyslexic player while helping a non-dyslexic player. Then by all means you have a legitimate fucking argument. But this? Really? Are you serious? | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:10 PauseBreak wrote: I don't think making the game easier is the correct move to bring players in. The game already isn't that complicated but I think the major issue is that Ladder is really scary to some people. That's why most people play Team Games because there is more blame to pass around than on just one person, namely, you or me in a 1s game. That's just my opinion. What about Larva Inject? That's a difficult mechanic for new people to learn and be consistent with. Should Blizzard just make that auto too now? Seriously, Larva Inject although not too hard for the more seasoned player is tough to handle as a new player. And just causally making it an auto skill would drastically change the game. I hope I've made my point clear with that situation. As not to be polarizing the community, but making things auto, just for the sake of or in the name of "new players" is a path this game should not be taking. It starts small, and gets bigger. That's why I am so passionate about it now. I'm not throwing chairs and tossing tables. I just believe that chipping away small pieces now is going to make it easier for a cave in later. I agree with this completely. I highly doubt the current UI in WOL is the reason there isn`t as much players laddering these days. I think the match-making for non-ladder games in HOTS that they mentioned will get more people playing (to experiment with builds), but these auto UI features doesn`t seem necessary or needed to achieve the goal of bringing new players in. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:11 vaderseven wrote: The fact that your post is edited makes me think you did lol. Point is, auto mine at game start is a silly thing to care about. No way, mate. I almost always edit my posts. I tend to be a little obsessive/compulsive and often ninja edit. Other people would have though. Sarcasm is often missed on TL, I find. | ||
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Cabinet Sanchez
Australia1097 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:00 Kharnage wrote: hehehe, I do play SEA. It's laggy cause it's in singapore. Australia is a long way from everywhere. I know, SEA implimentation was an ABORTION, I can't believe they initially forced that shit on us. So glad we have cross region accounts. Also as a low skill player, NA has more people to play with and I don't notice the lag. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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LessThanIII
9 Posts
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Falling
Canada11607 Posts
I do appreciate that the background clairity (there's a few current maps in rotation that are super dark). But it feels like shiny sci fi rather than Matrix/ Blade Runner sci fi. Kinda nitpicky I know, but it's bugging me a bit watching these streams. | ||
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PauseBreak
United States270 Posts
On September 05 2012 14:15 mango_destroyer wrote: I agree with this completely. I highly doubt the current UI in WOL is the reason there isn`t as much players laddering these days. I think the match-making for non-ladder games in HOTS that they mentioned will get more people playing (to experiment with builds), but these auto UI features doesn`t seem necessary or needed to achieve the goal of bringing new players in. Absolutely! Adding the non-ladder match making is a great idea! Why they didn't implement it in the Arcade patch was kind of disappointing. Being able to play players of the same skill, trying out new builds without the pressure of points really is a great concept. It should encourage more people to play. Like Tyler was saying in a SotG, ladder for some people is the best thing they have to competitive gaming. Some people really take it seriously no matter what league they are in. Sure, there are z33k tournaments but not everyone has a flexible schedule to accommodate certain game times. | ||
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