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Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 00:25:03
April 18 2011 00:24 GMT
#141
Just read the guys post above me, after 3 tries listening to his instructions i got it easily.
I had 7170 energy and ai had 10620, which was a huge improvement in my ratio previously.
GL all, and much thanks to ThorIsHere

Edit: Won in 4:20 (lol )
max.711
Profile Joined September 2010
103 Posts
April 18 2011 01:27 GMT
#142
Hey guys i know this is the single player section, but I have created a starjeweled tournament

To register: go to www.z33k.com/z/StarJ and click Sign My Team Up (you will be prompted to create a team, so create one and invite your teammates, and then join again once they have their info filled in)

I've organized a starjeweled tournament for next friday (fun fun fun) at 7pm PST (checkin starts at 6:30) , if we get over 8 teams checked in then I will start it, otherwise I'm not gonna bother

If reception is strong I will create another one for next friday.

If anyone wants to cast this or help admin it / run it, post here and I'll link their stream on the event page.

Likewise, I will be personally adding a $5 prize to the winners!
Gorvin
Profile Joined April 2011
United States22 Posts
April 18 2011 04:15 GMT
#143
If you're fast enough at matching gems, this achievement is not luck dependent at all. It took me something like 20 tries before I got this achievement, but since then I've gotten a lot better and I can now beat the Insane AI consistently (as in, I won 14 games in a row just now using the Tank + Ghost/Hydra strat). I think I end up with around 80% of the AI's energy score on average, although I've actually beaten the AI's score twice with really lucky combos.
iPBioOrMech
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey297 Posts
April 18 2011 07:32 GMT
#144
Make 8 fast tanks and it works alot with luck after u have 8 tanks and hes still at ur 2 cannons start pumping gohsts nonstop to deal with mutas/marines They have snipe as well that works so well
i created scan BM, MvP created mule drop.
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 07:56:14
April 18 2011 07:48 GMT
#145
After 15 tries, I beat the Insane AI in 3 minutes flat

I watched a youtube video with this supposedly tanks + ghosts strategy, I still think you simply have to be lucky not only in matching but also in timing + what units AI spawns, often the AI will just spawn a huge counter army and kill yours outright. One game, I had mad streaks and kept up with the AI in energy, killed his cannons and even pushed him all the way to his base only to fall behind and die by a ridiculous 3 colossus spawn.

The early timing when to spawn tanks and ghosts is important, you want the enemy units to be attacking your 2 front cannons before sending the first wave of tanks or ghosts if he spawns air. If you spawn to much to soon, the enemy units will kill your tanks instead of attacking the cannons. If you don't spawn enough tanks fast enough, you'll get overwhelmed. Also if the AI spawns only anti-ground units, a pack of mutas can be very effective, even further when healed.

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Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Kelberot
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil364 Posts
April 18 2011 11:30 GMT
#146
just mass tanks and use hydras as AA

trust me it works wonders, I'm terrible at this game and this worked perfectly. The tanks have massive range and are relatively slow, so they stack up pretty fast, and then it's GG, the computer doesnt know how to react
Defilie
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation28 Posts
April 18 2011 17:37 GMT
#147
Gee, i can't get it... i'm dying with like 3600 comparing to ai's 7100. Am i that bad or what? Cause i did like 10 tries and it is all the same.

Already not looking at the fight and concentrating hardly but still there are holes in my performance where I look at the board for like 5 seconds and not finding anything.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
April 18 2011 17:50 GMT
#148
On April 19 2011 02:37 Defilie wrote:
Gee, i can't get it... i'm dying with like 3600 comparing to ai's 7100. Am i that bad or what? Cause i did like 10 tries and it is all the same.

Already not looking at the fight and concentrating hardly but still there are holes in my performance where I look at the board for like 5 seconds and not finding anything.


Thats exactly what I was getting. Just keep trying - its all luck.

It took me 65 tries.

Dont be afraid to reset your board if you cant get anything.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
ThorIsHere
Profile Joined April 2011
2 Posts
April 18 2011 17:53 GMT
#149
still there are holes in my performance where I look at the board for like 5 seconds


If you're looking for 5 seconds, you're looking too long. Just reset the board if you don't find any matches in 3 seconds (press Z). Sometimes there's very few matches left, and in those cases, it's hard to keep momentum going. Usually new boards have a lot more obvious matches right away.

Am i that bad or what?


A lot of how quickly you can match also depends on the luck of the board layout, so I doubt you are terrible at the game, although keeping at the practice will speed up your matching a bit, you just need to keep trying until you get some friendly boards.

For people without uber leet bejeweled skillz, understand there's a lot of luck involved, so just keep grinding away and try not to feel like you suck.
Defilie
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation28 Posts
April 18 2011 17:58 GMT
#150
try not to feel like you suck.

Thanks, that really puts the weight off.

Cause i mean the game is made for people who play sc2 and since i do play, i should be fine)
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-18 20:52:25
April 18 2011 20:51 GMT
#151
I beat it by just spamming roach hydra, and locking down ultras and colossi, took 3½ minute game time.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Defilie
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation28 Posts
April 18 2011 22:02 GMT
#152
Guys, write down your scores, cause i'm like 3000 to 5000 ai's.
lifecanwait
Profile Joined May 2010
96 Posts
April 18 2011 22:08 GMT
#153
On April 18 2011 09:02 ThorIsHere wrote:
I registered an account here just to let you guys know how I beat this, because I too found it incredibly frustrating losing 25 games in a row and could only ever get 50% of the Insane AI's energy.

1) Turn off your sound! This was night and day to me. Hearing all the combos and the sound of the battle raises my blood pressure and causes me to lose focus on matching. So just turn it off, it's not necessary.
2) Start by saving up nearly 1000 energy, wait for the AI to get fairly close to your front cannons or start attacking them, then create 3 tanks.
3) Concentrate on matching. Never look away. Never look at the battle. Hit R every once in awhile to maybe create a tank, whether you have the energy saved up or not, because glancing at your actual energy level is not worth the distraction from matching.
4) Jump back and forth between the left side of the jewel grid and the right side to find matches faster.
5) Always prefer to make horizontal matches, they have much better chances of making combos.
6) Prefer matches near the bottom of the grid, but don't be afraid to glance at the top of the grid.
7) If you don't find any matches in 3 seconds, press Z (reset the board), it's not the end of the world and new boards often have big combos lined up.
8) Occasionally (very rarely) look at your tank line. If you see 8, time to switch to ghosts (S key). Just hit the S key instead of R from now on.
9) If you ever see that one of your tanks has died, quit and start a new game. Momentum is not in your favor, there is no point trying to recover. Since this is based so much on luck, it's faster and better for your mental health to just accept the loss, quit, and start fresh.
10) I repeat, DO NOT WATCH THE BATTLE, and do not cast spells, it is just not worth the distraction from matching! Each marine you pump out from a match is more important than any tactical choice you might make or spell you might cast when looking at the battle.

That's it. I won decisively in 3:13 after getting utterly steamrolled 25 times. It's really just a matter of matching quickly and getting lucky enough with enemy unit compositions and positions to not lose your tanks. You do NOT need to use ANY spells, I certainly did not and I steamrolled the AI on my 2nd try with the sound off. Like I said, I would always get 50% energy of what the AI got, but in the game I won, I had 5460 energy to the AI's 7380, which was a very good ratio for me, and turning off the sound really helped boost my matching productivity.

I won without any high combo, I just had a steady stream of matches, so don't feel like you HAVE to get "for the swarm" to win (though it certainly won't hurt).


This may work for you, but you are not a proper "jeweler"!! ;D

One advice from me: SOUND TO THE MAX for MAXIMUM fun! And ofc keep track of the battle, you wanna see how the AI gets pwned don't you? This way you can also train your multitasking abilities.
dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 06:01:18
April 21 2011 05:44 GMT
#154
Banshees.

That is all.

No seriously. It took me forever to figure it out, but it's so easy. The only counter he has is mutas/hydras/ghosts (storm and they're gone). Once you have 10+ banshees, spam muta, and chain heal. I had less than half the points of the computer, and only 2 Masterfuls (no hardcore).


Step 1: Save to 1000 energy.
Step 2: Spam 5 banshees.
Step 3: Keep spamming banshees.
Step 4: When he RANDOMLY (yes, it's random) sends mutas/hydras/ghosts, storm.
Step 5: Heal when needed.
Step 6: At 10+ banshees, spam muta.
Step 7: gg

I have now won 9 insane ai games in a row with this strat, and 2 of my friends that suck at bejeweled got the achievement with it.
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
Moniker
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4 Posts
April 21 2011 09:50 GMT
#155
I just did 9 tanks then pure ghosts worked well
Piou
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium415 Posts
April 21 2011 18:46 GMT
#156
can't spawn more than 2 tanks at the time (max 3...) with my 1000 energy and by the time i get some more my first one got raped...

i tried the banshe, same thing happened... i love jeweld kind of game, i'm not bad at it but idk why, it seems like i can barely beat it on normal difficulty :s
http://www.youtube.com/PiouStarcraft - http://www.facebook.com/pioustarcraft
Shado.
Profile Joined February 2008
United States187 Posts
April 22 2011 22:44 GMT
#157
I think they just updated this game and it feels like it's super easy on insane now?
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 23:52:54
April 22 2011 23:32 GMT
#158
god this shit is so fucking hard
ultras spawn and my tanks focus marines

this achievement is stupid it reminds me of fucking WoW, spamming all your time just hoping RNG favors you
fuck

yeah i prob rage less at ladder than this, peacing out this custom game lol -_-
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Gorvin
Profile Joined April 2011
United States22 Posts
April 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#159
On April 23 2011 08:32 Vei wrote:
god this shit is so fucking hard
ultras spawn and my tanks focus marines


Cast a Warp Cell (the stun spell) on the Ultralisks just before they get within melee range and they will get focused down without doing any damage to you.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
April 23 2011 00:30 GMT
#160
On April 23 2011 09:13 Gorvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2011 08:32 Vei wrote:
god this shit is so fucking hard
ultras spawn and my tanks focus marines


Cast a Warp Cell (the stun spell) on the Ultralisks just before they get within melee range and they will get focused down without doing any damage to you.

yeah i got that, my main problem is just sucking at making rows and whatnot.
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