EPTand the last zerg upgrade is crucial for the last mission: psi disruptor or whatever its called makes the nydus version infinitely easier, mind control towers make the air infinitely easier. beating the air version on brutal without the mind control towers is extremely difficult.
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
and the last zerg upgrade is crucial for the last mission: psi disruptor or whatever its called makes the nydus version infinitely easier, mind control towers make the air infinitely easier. beating the air version on brutal without the mind control towers is extremely difficult. | ||
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potatomash3r
Australia417 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
It doesn't really matter what else you do as long as make lots of siege tanks! | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
On August 12 2010 02:11 Juvator wrote: it does depend on research for some part indeed, that's why when I wanted to do air lvl on hard I redid the whole campaign just to get hive mind controller  because this is just the hardest mission in the campaign, and most other research that is usefull there is also usefull in the other missions. so completely basing ur tech on the last mission was in my case not a bad thing and then nydus or air should not pose too much of a threat.but I do see that defense and playwise nydus is just a lot easier because it requires a lot less micro then dealing with all the air on all sides and getting those broodlords that are out of reach. Ive just redone it and getting the best research for this level because i wanted the use artifact once achievement. I was really struggling because i simply hadnt teched the right units or chosen the right research upgrades. This time round it was so easy it felt like playing the final mission on normal vs nydus and the only micro required was with the banshees. So your choices really do make a massive difference as you say. | ||
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moopie
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
What makese Nydus easy ? 1 unit. Siege tanks. And lots of them. And 20ish marines for Karigan. So I'd say if you where struggling with Brutal missions, Nydus is by FAR the easiest. | ||
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
Anyways as some others have mentioned I've used this All-In Brutal Guide for the basic setup. After that the whole mission almost seemed like a joke. Though I don't mind a smooth sailing Did it in my first attempt after watching this video. Incredible easy as long as tanks take care of most and marines kill Kerrigan. Just remember to flush the Zerg with the Artifact right before Kerrigan gets there and it's a breeze. Don't know about the other Research paths but I had Psi Disrupter and Perdition Turret too and now I can do this mission without a sweat. | ||
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youj3an
8 Posts
I just massed goliaths with their armory upgrades. They take care of air easily and since the ground forces you face aren't too substantial it works out quite well. Make sure to get the reactor/techlab researched. | ||
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Poptarts
United States5 Posts
For some people, they like air better because they can mind control (if they have the hive mind device) a bunch of Broodlords and Mutalisks and kill Kerrigan with it. | ||
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
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monad
United States156 Posts
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gods_basement
United States305 Posts
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peterius
33 Posts
I finally broke down and watched that brutal walkthrough. The problem is that I don't have the story upgrade that lets you build two tanks at a time and I don't have the slow towers and I don't have the psi disrupter and I also don't have the gas autominer which I think is faster than 3 scvs. So I just don't think its possible for me to beat this. I can't replace the tanks fast enough, if I build them all in the center, half still get wiped out from kerrigan and then I'm overrun. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Then I go onto Youtube to learn other people's strategies. I learned that mass tank + bio ball was the key. Easiest brutal mission ever. I literally did nothing but spam tanks, click nova and a-move bio ball when kerrigan shows up. This strategy does, however, require the use of psi disruptor in front of your tanks. I heard that Air is super easy if you have the mind control tower. You end up with over a hundred muta and dozens of broodlords if you spam the towers. | ||
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peterius
33 Posts
On August 18 2010 15:37 dukethegold wrote: I learned that mass tank + bio ball was the key. Easiest brutal mission ever. I literally did nothing but spam tanks, click nova and a-move bio ball when kerrigan shows up. This strategy does, however, require the use of psi disruptor in front of your tanks. . Did you have the upgrade for building two tanks at once or the gas upgrade? I don't have the psi disruptor either. I wonder if there's just some story upgrades that you can't use together. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On August 18 2010 15:42 peterius wrote: Did you have the upgrade for building two tanks at once or the gas upgrade? I don't have the psi disruptor either. I wonder if there's just some story upgrades that you can't use together. I have all of them. But you don't need those two upgrades since you can just build more factories and scv. I am talking about this strategy: | ||
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peterius
33 Posts
On August 18 2010 15:51 dukethegold wrote: I am talking about this strategy: Yeah, that's the one I finally broke down and tried. I can't build that many tanks, there's not enough gas for it, even with four factories. I think the gas upgrade is more necessary even then the double tank one. Like he's got like 22 tanks there. I can build 12 tops, maxed out gas, then kerrigan comes and between her and the zerg left after I use the nova, I lose 6. | ||
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + but lol I still admit taking out air is easier | ||
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monad
United States156 Posts
On August 18 2010 16:07 peterius wrote: Yeah, that's the one I finally broke down and tried. I can't build that many tanks, there's not enough gas for it, even with four factories. I think the gas upgrade is more necessary even then the double tank one. Like he's got like 22 tanks there. I can build 12 tops, maxed out gas, then kerrigan comes and between her and the zerg left after I use the nova, I lose 6. Do you have the armory upgrade for thors that gives them the 330mm cannon that stuns? If so, what you do for kerrigan is just build 4 thors and put them in a control group. hit her with it and it stuns her, wait 3 seconds then do it again, keep cycling this over and over and it will chain stun her and you can kill her without even getting touched every single time. It was difficult for me the first time around as well due to some poor tech choices, but you just have to save after every kerrigan wave. Apparently you have the mind control stuff, use that to mind control Ultralisks and then move them up your artifact ramp and just leave them there. Once you get to 95% or so, lift all your buildings and land them on the top area. This should buy you enough time reach 100% even if your entire army gets wiped out. Another trick I did since I was getting to like 99% was near the end, take a hellion and hit kerrigan with it then kite her away. If kerrigan is allowed to get up the ramp it's over, but if you hit her once she will follow you till you die, so kiting her is a good way to save your ass if it comes down to a hair. | ||
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peterius
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