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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
I'm not great at this game but still, I want to do all the achievements. I can beat missions relatively easily even on Brutal but it takes me a while. However, when it comes to rushing through missions, I always finish a few minutes too late for the achievements and have to redo the mission over and over until I pretty much memorize the best path... Honestly, can't gaming companies come up with more interesting achievements? If I wanted to do a speedrun of the game I would. | ||
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
And second : + Show Spoiler + Media Blitz : Complete the mission on hard mode without making a single attacking unit besides the Odin + the ones given to you after the 5 minute mark. Echoes of the Future : Beat the mission on hard mode without using feedback (would require to make Maar's spells even more dangerous to be worth an achievement IMO though). Kind of lame but still better than a timed mission. Breakout : Complete the mission on hard mode without using a nuke. etc,etc. | ||
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AyJay
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mcht
Germany201 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On August 08 2010 07:00 mcht wrote: since u can save at any point u really dont have to redo the whole mission every time Loading a save really helps when the problem is time and not difficulty... | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On August 08 2010 07:01 Kurr wrote: Loading a save really helps when the problem is time and not difficulty... But you said "[...] and have to redo the mission over and over until I pretty much memorize the best path..." Thanks to reloading you can figure out what the best path for the next X minutes is. (And the overall best path is just the combined best subpaths) And time is difficulty. Time is limiting your harvested resources, therefore limiting your available units. i.e: Turteling and then crushing every opponent with a 200/200 battlecruiser / science vessel fleet at 3/3 is not very difficult. With fewer / weaker units it is suddenly more difficult. So when the problem is time it is automatically a difficulty problem. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On August 08 2010 09:10 Mastermind wrote: so you want achievements that dont require you to try hard? you want to be able to get them all in a couple tries? No thanks. The harder the better I say. You just need to learn how to do things faster. I got all the achievements so far (beat the game before and now up to Char again) and they aren't hard. I don't have a difficult time building fast because I also play multiplayer. But when I play single player I want a different experience and speedrunning is not a part of that. And speed doesn't necessarily mean difficulty like I said before. It's just more tedious and I usually forget that I need to hurry up during my first playthrough and have to re-do the missions. Achievements can be hard without a time-requirement as well. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
That said, while it is true an achievement can be hard without being time-based, I don't think you can make many achievements hard without also making them tedious for some people. They just become tedious in different ways. | ||
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pat965
Canada274 Posts
On August 08 2010 09:28 Kurr wrote: I got all the achievements so far (beat the game before and now up to Char again) and they aren't hard. I don't have a difficult time building fast because I also play multiplayer. But when I play single player I want a different experience and speedrunning is not a part of that. And speed doesn't necessarily mean difficulty like I said before. It's just more tedious and I usually forget that I need to hurry up during my first playthrough and have to re-do the missions. Achievements can be hard without a time-requirement as well. How is it tedious and not difficult? Isn't tedium usually defined by slow, lengthy processes? How is doing things quickly, and making do with what you've got a tedious process? The only thing I can see is that you think it's tedious because you keep forgetting to do the achievement - that's your fault. Many achievements can be easily done by just getting a whole bunch of units and winning. Normally I'm not too crazy about time-based achievements, but with an RTS, it forces you to make do with what you have, and I think it works well. Don't like it? DON'T DO IT. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Postman
United States269 Posts
On August 08 2010 06:58 Kurr wrote: First of all If I was the one making the missions there would be things added to make achievements that aren't time-based more interesting as well. And second : + Show Spoiler + Media Blitz : Complete the mission on hard mode without making a single attacking unit besides the Odin + the ones given to you after the 5 minute mark. Echoes of the Future : Beat the mission on hard mode without using feedback (would require to make Maar's spells even more dangerous to be worth an achievement IMO though). Kind of lame but still better than a timed mission. Breakout : Complete the mission on hard mode without using a nuke. etc,etc. I feel really stupid right now because I did that when I played. No thoughts about even thinking about using feedback at all. | ||
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GrandHighPoobah
United States18 Posts
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
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Gedrah
465 Posts
Media Blitz : Complete the mission on hard mode without making a single attacking unit besides the Odin + the ones given to you after the 5 minute mark. Echoes of the Future : Beat the mission on hard mode without using feedback (would require to make Maar's spells even more dangerous to be worth an achievement IMO though). Kind of lame but still better than a timed mission. Breakout : Complete the mission on hard mode without using a nuke. etc,etc. To me, all your suggestions sound even less fun than timed achievements. Here we have a game with tons of fun units and abilities like Feedback and Nukes, and you want to reward me for not using them at all. Laaaame. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On August 08 2010 10:00 GrandHighPoobah wrote: So you say time-based achievements are tedious, but wouldnt' going through that mission without nukes be even more of a boring pain in the ass? It's not that bad. I beat that mission on Brutal without nukes. Mind Blast and Consumption are ridiculously powerful together. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On August 08 2010 11:45 Gedrah wrote: Fortunately you have the option of not doing these achievements with no negative consequences. To me, all your suggestions sound even less fun than timed achievements. Here we have a game with tons of fun units and abilities like Feedback and Nukes, and you want to reward me for not using them at all. Laaaame. He randomly asked me for ideas which I answered after about 2 minutes of thinking. Maybe if I had years to come up with missions I wouldn't be limited to adding achievements to already existing missions. How can you possibly not understand this? | ||
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mechanix
33 Posts
some achieves i was thinking were like defeat the brutal campaign without: -upgrading your infrantry from the armory -hiring mercs -researching anything above 20 (or maybe no researches at all?) for individual missions, maybe something like: -dont use secruity cameras in the secret mission -have both nydus worms + air in the final (option to unlock?) anywho lots of different ideas to play around with. i just think brutal needs its own set of achieves, and they should be extremely difficult to do. | ||
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