EPTLost Viking - Hardest Achievements?
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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xmShake
United States1100 Posts
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HarleyM
United States30 Posts
For upgrade order... 2x weapon, 2x drone, bombs bombs bombs. Like he said, use bombs rather than getting hit. As a side note... Galactix > Lost viking (and every other Space Invaders I've ever played) | ||
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xnub
Canada610 Posts
got to lvl 16 then just shut it off lol | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
The most important tip, if you don't know that already, is that the powerups change their type if you don't collect them right away. So you can always get the powerup type you want. | ||
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HarleyM
United States30 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
Also, bombs give you temporary immunity. Use a bomb if you cannot dodge a projectile. This is the only time you should ever bomb. If you can dodge projectiles, it doesn't matter if there are 50 bad guys on the screen. Save your bombs as a defensive cooldown. Like everyone else said, side missiles are good for the trash, plasma guns are good for the bosses. | ||
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Badred
Canada129 Posts
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Gedrah
465 Posts
Alternate between using the left hand on WASD and right hand on Spacebar, and right hand on arrow keys and left hand hitting Spacebar, to avoid fatigue. The mashing required to beat this can be brutal. Breathe deeply and regularly, it's a lot more taxing on your muscles than you might think. I for one have a G-15 keyboard which has a fairly heavy space bar, my hands were screaming by the time I earned Gold. Note that holding down space bar fires about 1\3 as many shots as rapidly mashing it, and that holding it down will not cause Drones to fire their homing missiles, which are absolutely pivotal to winning this. All power-ups gradually cycle between the 4 available ones if left alone. Learn to recognize the Side Missiles (3 red missiles), Drone (Point Defense Drone), Plasma Missile (Purple launcher object), and Bomb (Blue launcher object). The max upgrade level for each of the weapons and the drone is 2, but you can carry a lot of bombs. Once you have your chosen weapon at level 2 and 2 drones, farm as many bombs as you can. Many people suggest using Plasma Missiles. They do much greater DPS than Side Missiles, but only directly in front of your ship. I recommend Side Missiles. They will cover the edges of the screen and make most of the non-boss portions of the levels very easy, so you can rest a bit and easily collect bombs and replace destroyed drones. Furthermore, Side Missiles allow you to DPS the bosses regardless of where you are on the screen, as you'll need to dodge attacks, not just fire at the boss nonstop. The overall damage per minute you'll do to the bosses with Side Missiles is thus very similar, and Side Missiles allow you to play much safer overall. Bombs destroy all mobs and projectiles on screen. Use them defensively. The key to winning is to never die, and to keep your Drones from dying when you can. Drones have their own separate collision and will die if hit by a ship or a bullet. The patterns of all attacks are the same on every difficulty level and only the HP of enemies is upgraded. The exception is that on higher difficulties, there are laser obstacles on the Terratron level. These are very easy to avoid and mainly only hurt you if you are doing a poor job cleaning up smaller enemies, due to using the Plasma Missile or losing your Drones. Move to the side of the screen whenever the Carrier charges up to fire the repeating cannon at you. Move very slowly when evading the attack, only far enough to avoid getting hit. Don't get greedy, if you stay close to the Carrier, you'll get killed by interceptors when he launches them. Keep your eyes on your ship, the interceptors will be firing at you as well, and they can be tricky. The Leviathan is very easy, just keep an eye on him when he's about to use his quad tentacle attack. His tentacles have larger collision than they appear to, and target unpredictably. Be careful, and note that popping off a bomb will cause them all to retract. If you have nowhere to evade it's an option. His other attack is to power up and charge at the bottom of the screen. Please don't get hit by this, as it's telegraphed by 5 whole seconds. :[ Terratron might seem very intimidating at first, but his attacks are all very slow and avoidable and predictable. Make sure to pay attention to his animations: when he begins charging up his head-mounted laser cannon, make sure you're on the opposite side of the screen, or it will definitely kill you when he sweeps across the sky. Otherwise, stay far away from him on the lower left or right corner, pay attention to the travel path of his laser discus weapon, and keep your eyes on your ship to dodge his other bullet-based attacks. Note that his hand-mounted cannons' shots are not cleared away by bombs. Keep your eyes on your ship. Killing enemies is not as important as avoiding bullets. Develop a sense for where you need to be moving to within the next 1, 3, and 5 seconds, as sometimes the bullets will create a death zone that you can't escape from without predicting it, especially when blowing up the Scourges on the Leviathan level. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
I just played like my 4th try, and only got to 240K.. Its just so long and boring and bleh I lose my concentration very fast and make stupid mistakes =/ | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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moopie
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Even using bombs on the bosses (like 3 each on the 2nd and 3rd bosses) as well as a few on level 2, you can hit 15-20 bombs in reserve in notime, as well as a bunch of extra lives. | ||
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Yung
United States727 Posts
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Tomasdk
Slovakia10 Posts
And like others said, drones are very important. I liked the spread gun more than the plasma though. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
 .At least this thread taught me that the power-ups changed over time. Never knew that. | ||
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TsoBadGuy
United States221 Posts
And as other people said, use bombs as you think you're about to get hit. Once you get the hang of it you'll pass with flying colors, and likely kill yourself shortly thereafter. :D But imo, most important thing, GET DRONES. You can basically take up to 3 hits with 2 drones, so when you see a drone you can't quite get to, throw a bomb out to get to it. | ||
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Aeroz135
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brocoli
Brazil264 Posts
After that it is trivial. ...and I lost my gold medal because bnet was offline when I hit 500k >_> later I'll try again. Probably gonna use the plasma cannons this time, or maybe try switching the weapon. I've got two questions though.. - do Bombkills count for score? - can the Drone's seeker missiles clear the screen effectively? | ||
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Decessus
Brazil105 Posts
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
Mountain of Faith Extra Boss | ||
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brocoli
Brazil264 Posts
On August 09 2010 04:50 Thermia wrote: Play some touhou and you'll laugh at how easy lost viking is: Mountain of Faith Extra Boss Using one of the easiest extra bosses in the series as a display of difficulty seems wrong somehow... Great no-deaths no-bombs (sorta) run by Kefit though =P Still, it's kind of hard to compare a methodic shooter to a danmaku shooter... | ||
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Worm104
England28 Posts
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
Side missiles are excellent for the first 6 levels, excluding the boss parts, especially if you're just holding down spacebar, and not spamming it (plasma really sucks then). Side missiles REALLY suck against bosses though, and also suck in later levels. I recommend only using plasma,since you get through the game faster, and don't really loose much or any score. I played myself out of this game on day 2 or so after launch. I didn't know about the tap fire trick until after playing several times. Once I learned about the tap trick, I got to a score of 869000, which is pretty nice, lol. I wanted to get to 1 million, but I guess I just made too much mistake. | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
On August 09 2010 05:26 brocoli wrote: Using one of the easiest extra bosses in the series as a display of difficulty seems wrong somehow... Great no-deaths no-bombs (sorta) run by Kefit though =P Still, it's kind of hard to compare a methodic shooter to a danmaku shooter... Wasn't a display of difficulty, per say, just an example (and the first video that came up when I searched youtube, lol). Still, if you play touhou at all, you pretty much can't die to lost viking except for when you're getting used to the slight movement delay and different hitbox. | ||
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BlueSorc
United Kingdom119 Posts
The ONLY achievement I'm missing is Lost Viking Gold. I got to 475,000 points with 5 bombs and 2 lives left, then blew it in a flurry of moments of madness. Almost tore my hair out, haven't mustered the will to have another bash yet. | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
On August 09 2010 04:50 Thermia wrote: Play some touhou and you'll laugh at how easy lost viking is: Mountain of Faith Extra Boss this is actually very good advice Just go play any japanese shump for about an hour and you'll become godlike at LV | ||
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psychopat
Canada417 Posts
In order of things to get, you should aim for 2 drones, then 2 plasma, then all bombs. I stopped at 505k (after the third Terratron) because I didn't care to go for more, but I still had 4 lives and 18 bombs left. Levels (1+3x) and (3+3x) are fairly straight-forward and not an issue. Levels (2+3x) were the hardest for me until I figured out that the best strategy is to simply try to not move at all for it, since the drone shots are generally enough to clear all the scourges. They'll also kill them in a way that will make the scourges split and not send any shot towards you. Oh, and if you mess up and lose a drone or die, it's very worth it to bomb in order to free up the space/time to pick up all your powerups. | ||
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Opossum
Germany48 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + #include <Windows.h> bool IsKeyDown(int vKey) { return (GetAsyncKeyState(vKey) & 0x8000) != 0; } int main() { bool press = false; while (true) { if (IsKeyDown(VK_F1)) { press = true; } if (IsKeyDown(VK_ESCAPE)) { press = false; } if (press) { keybd_event(VK_SPACE, 0, 0, 0); keybd_event(VK_SPACE, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0); } Sleep(10); } return 0; }  Although it basically only helps making the later levels even more boring. How do I play it after I've beaten the game? Load a save that's older than char. There should be plenty of those "Blah blah Victory" saves that put you directly after each mission. If they don't appear ingame then they are certainly still in your SC2 document folder. | ||
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brain_
United States812 Posts
The third Zerg level is fucking brutal... Your entire screen is green from Scourges... | ||
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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professorjoak
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Bomb kills count for score. You are invulnerable for a couple seconds when bombing. You should bomb when 1. You think you are in danger of taking a hit. It is always better to bomb than be wrong 2. You need some space to grab a powerup. Especially if you lost a drone and are getting it back 3. Sometimes you see an opportunity to bomb and pick up 2 bomb powerups 4. You have enough bombs to goof off every once in a while and just bomb a screen full of enemies if you want, but don't do it too much. Mashing space bar really fast, you can do a good job clearing the screen with plasma+2 drones. If you prefer the side missiles, they're okay too since you can just dodge the same boss patterns and survive arbitrarily long. Just don't switch between them if you can help it. You should try to get this many points per level: Terran : 20k Zerg: 60k Protoss: 90k This way you will get the achievement somewhere in the middle of level 9. One final big tip is that when fighting twin midbosses (swarm guardian or battlecruiser), kill off one of the midbosses quickly to clear that side of the screen then don't shoot the other boss except for your drone's missiles. Endless waves of scourge/wraiths will keep filling the screen and you can increase your score as fast during these segments as anywhere else in the game. As a bonus, they'll keep dropping powerups for you this way. If you're really having trouble, you can intentionally lose your drones and farm wraiths as long as you want for a safe way to boost your score. | ||
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fant0m
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I went from like 25k or 35k on one attempt straight to 500k (with multiple lives and 10+ bombs) because I learned how the game and the powerups worked. It's easy to abuse, but it's definitely fun to destroy waves upon waves of enemies, and the victory text is always abusing. Definitely not one of the hardest achievements. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
Those terran heat-wave things are the biggest pain in the ass ever.. Totally throws off my comfort and just lame. That was the hardest part of the game for me, surprisingly Terratron was pretty easy, even the 3rd time (knowing I got it so I just wasted all my bombs to any of his spells that came near me) I know you people are saying "why are people saying this isnt hard, compared to some japanese crazy game its nothing".. and its not in comparison to them, but keep in mind there are a lot of us who are younger than 35 who hasnt played Space invaders or any of these types of games in the past. Its the same as a good chunk of the majority now haven't even played Pacman, so if someone sucks at Pacman their first 5 tries because its the first time they played it, dont bash them like you are bashing people who havent played Space invader games before. I personally thought i'd never get this achievement, and was already thinking of either letting a friend on my account to do it or paying someone like $5 to do it for me.. but thankfully I got it, its over with, never have to see Lost Viking again unless its the real one Blizzard made. Thank god. | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
Just got 1.1 million pts, at which point I had to go, so I quit at the ending of lvl 18 instead of hitting continue. (it had been over an hour and a half or something rediculous...) Here's my guide: Priority: Multishot 2 drone 2 BOMBS The reasoning here is that once you get to the later levels, you cannot rely on the drones to kill things, and you also cannot rely on being directly below something to kill it. This becomes essential on the later terran levels, where the entire top of the screen fills with wraiths that take 2+ shots to kill, and if you don't kill em quick, you'll be forced to bomb out of the mass of red lasers they fire. By level 18 I had over 30 bombs, and my deaths up until that point were almost all preventable by a bomb if I'd been willing to spend it. always use a bomb if you think you're gonna die, you get enough of them... Protoss level never gets harder, it's just ezmode rest time, and a place to stock up on bombs Zerg gets harder on it's 2nd time, but doesn't seem to change after that, it's overall easy if you understand that you don't have to spam spacebar the whole time. When the scourge scream and sit in formation on the top of the screen, burst down half of them, then dodge, then spam again before they fly down at you. If you get overwhelmed, don't be afraid to use a bomb, this level gives you fucktonnes of them. The leviathan is the most annoying fuck of a boss. His tentacle attack will rape you. Do NOT be afraid to bomb every time he uses it when there are already swarms of green all over the screen. Use the bomb right as he is firing the first one and invicibility will allow you to fly through the tentacles to safety very easily no matter where they are. Terran is easy at the start, and ramps to insanity later on. on it's second itteration and onwards there are the red side-lasers you gotta avoid. these start very spread out, but get closer together every itteration after the 2nd, until level 18 where you have 3-4 on the screen at once. The battlecruisers also get extremely harder as you go on, because they and their seeker missiles get more and more hp, until you've actually gotta dodge around the lines of seeker missiles in a circle to survive. The number of wraiths and the wraith hp also seem to go up, to the point where they were at least 2 shots to kill the wraiths in lvl 18(6th terran for those counting like that), and my kill total was over 750 wraiths Terratron stays the same after he starts up throwing his blue blade, he just gets more and more hp. Once you get the dodgeing of his different abilities down pat he's actually pretty easy, just be ready to bomb if you're caught out of position when he does the combo of orange hand cannons + spiral red from the drones, as it is the hardest thing he has to dodge. If anyone has seen the later levels I'm really curious how hellish the terran levels get. For all those saying plasma is great, please please tell me how far you get on terran levels with it, as I just don't see you being able to get past lvl 12 or so... edit: I've seen a few people suggesting swapping between plasma and side-shot, I would not recommend this, as it cuts into how many bombs you get... | ||
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Annatar11
United States27 Posts
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
On August 09 2010 04:50 Thermia wrote: Play some touhou and you'll laugh at how easy lost viking is: Mountain of Faith Extra Boss My head asplode, that's a ridiculous game. | ||
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
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midrev
Romania3 Posts
just mass vikings ... like at least 1-2 controls. get maxed upgrades 3/3. rape terratron and buddies. gg. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
On August 09 2010 11:35 professorjoak wrote: As Peppy in Starfox 64 said, "Use bombs wisely." This post needs more barrel rolling. :| | ||
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Realpenguin
8253 Posts
On August 09 2010 08:34 ZoW wrote: this is actually very good advice Just go play any japanese shump for about an hour and you'll become godlike at LV I'm decent at Touhou (can 1cc all the games quite easily except SA/UFO on Normal) but I just can't get used to how unresponsive the controls on LV are :3 But then again, I've only tried once. I'll go for it again later. | ||
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JunZ
United States314 Posts
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Shade692003
Canada702 Posts
If any of you have arcade sticks, just use Joy2Key and map the keys to the keyboard controls. Feels good man. Edit: On August 10 2010 04:22 Monokeros wrote: I used a SSF4 arcade stick for this haha, just turned on the turbo button on whatever key I had bound to spacebace (which I Just Joy2Key to change the keys) made this super easy. Of course I never tried for the achievement after I played it for awhile, BECAUSE I'M TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL. Glad I'm not the only one who did it, makes the game 10x more fun. | ||
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ChaosKnight
United States819 Posts
On August 09 2010 04:50 Thermia wrote: Play some touhou and you'll laugh at how easy lost viking is: Mountain of Faith Extra Boss Um, yeah, I have Lunatic 1ccs and have gone as far as perfecting latter stages of the various games (no bombs/no deaths). That didn't stop the Lost Vikings achievement from being annoying due to jerky movements and, well, the need to invest an entire hour of my time to something painfully repetitive. Spamming the space bar is also not fun, and if I'm allowed to nitpick further, having bomb be control and shot be space bar seems to make no sense to me. And if were really going to talk about other shmups now, Touhou still pales in comparison to games like... well, pretty much anything by Cave. | ||
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excess
Germany24 Posts
u should get 2 drones as soon as u can because drones r 2 more weapons and 2 more lives! after that u should get missiles. plasma do more dmg on sngle target but its much easier to beat boss with missiles than to survive until boss with plasmabeam. if other r full, get bombs/shields! and most important use bombs/shields every time u see no possibility to avoid dmg! there r much more upgades than u need anyway. so use them! u will need them mostly for zerglevel and second and perhaps last boss and terran level against science vessels or if u find urself captured behind this lightningbeams. | ||
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
I didn't feel like trying again after that. It shouldn't be too hard to get 500.000 though so I guess ill do it later at some point. | ||
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JunZ
United States314 Posts
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geno
United States1404 Posts
The time I got it, I wanted to make SURE that didn't happen, so I farmed interceptors from the carriers each of the three runs for a bit to make sure I had 500K before I had to face terra-tron a third time. Ended up getting like 560K anyways before getting bored and suiciding. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4719 Posts
I would call myself clutch right now Was the last achievement I needed also.Was much easier with those Plasma Weapons. Laser''s DPS is meh, even if you shoot everywhere at once. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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AbyssArray
Canada26 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
But it was easy only took time. | ||
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Annatar11
United States27 Posts
On August 12 2010 15:12 Kentor wrote: I got 500k before level 9 terratron. Like someone else said try to farm the interceptors for a bit before moving on. Getting plasma beam was a big mistake on level 6 wraiths. Get side missiles and try to get plasma before terratron. That's probably the hardest transition you have to do. I just used side missiles for carrier and leviathan. You don't really need the transition if you got plenty of bombs stocked up. Side missiles and 2 drones rip through the Wraiths and the Science Vessels (the 2 BCs are pretty easy, too), so you should be able to pick up plenty of bombs without having to use any/many. Then you can just keep side missiles and each time the Terra-trons platforms/arms fire their goop, just shoot off the bomb and watch it all poof. Only things you'll have to dodge is the sweeping beam and the bouncing disk, both of which are ridiculously easy to avoid without all other projectiles on screen | ||
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UntitledQ
Germany99 Posts
I also would've gotten the 500k at level 8 already; probably because I farmed Interceptors in levels 1, 4 and 7 and generally used side missiles to get the most out of the enemies. edit: Oh, and thanks, Opossum, neat piece of code! Saved me the hassle of getting that together myself | ||
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kathode
United States265 Posts
I hate this game so much. | ||
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Tonttu
Finland606 Posts
 You can instantly kill everything if you're moving sideways a bit, making rockets and siderockets hit everything. Drones are also very nice to have as soon as possible and bombs after. I used bombs mainly only at Zerg and Terran bosses, because I got a bit lazy dodging all their lasers and tentacles. Well it took me about 1½ hours to get this and my left arm was... hurt due space smashing :D tried to switch to wasd and right hand space, but it felt bad as controlling viking with left hand was a bit meh for me Well atleast for me, side rockets and drones were they key and I didn't really need bombs | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 10 2010 06:36 Realpenguin wrote: I'm decent at Touhou (can 1cc all the games quite easily except SA/UFO on Normal) but I just can't get used to how unresponsive the controls on LV are :3 But then again, I've only tried once. I'll go for it again later. Dunno, I suck at Touhou(stuck at stage 4 boss on Lunatic in MoF) but cleared Lost Viking on my first try with no deaths. Just get side missiles and then spam drones and only concentrate on evading and stuff will die to the drones eventually. | ||
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ZeKk
Sweden320 Posts
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
and then i was very bored of it. gonna try later | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On August 16 2010 07:58 ZeKk wrote: Im curious about how the difficult setting in the campaigne effects the "Lost Viking" game? Or it it the same difficulites regardless of what you choose in the capmagine? Campaign difficulty has nothing to do with the Lost Viking minigame. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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sparknineone
United States52 Posts
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Inhumoff
Norway28 Posts
793k score.but never again terrible... terrible spacebar | ||
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Hollow
Canada2180 Posts
still have a bunch of lives though but i dont feel like going for the high score now.. =s | ||
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Vashalgrim
United States77 Posts
Great thanks Opossum! | ||
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Yuka
United States133 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On August 09 2010 08:52 Opossum wrote: This helps a lot: + Show Spoiler + #include <Windows.h> bool IsKeyDown(int vKey) { return (GetAsyncKeyState(vKey) & 0x8000) != 0; } int main() { bool press = false; while (true) { if (IsKeyDown(VK_F1)) { press = true; } if (IsKeyDown(VK_ESCAPE)) { press = false; } if (press) { keybd_event(VK_SPACE, 0, 0, 0); keybd_event(VK_SPACE, 0, KEYEVENTF_KEYUP, 0); } Sleep(10); } return 0; } How do I run this? Needs compiling or w/e? | ||
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Jarhead
United States53 Posts
Plasma with drones is better than side missiles for almost every situation. They can still destroy the randoms flying around, while leaving you enough firepower to take out bosses/minibosses. And scourge only spew crap once when hit by plasmas. Side cannons on the zerg level will scatter the green everywhere. | ||
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Opossum
Germany48 Posts
I uploaded it to google code and included a readily compiled exe file which you guys can use without setting up the compiler and everything yourself. http://code.google.com/p/fastspace/ There you go. For the exe go to Downloads => FastSpace.exe. For instructions read the project summary. No, it's not a key logger but it's up to you to trust me on that. Just compile the code yourself if you don't. Only works on windows (because I will never, ever again try and code anything for Mac, ugh). Not sure what GNU v3 is but just do whatever you want with that source. | ||
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Mellois
United States56 Posts
I preferred side missiles because I could just spam it and just concentrate on dodging projectiles. Though with side missiles boss fights became a lot longer. Don't be afraid to use the bombs if you're about to die. You get plenty of bombs to use and I always had about 8-10 in the bank and I felt I used them pretty often. | ||
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VonLego
United States519 Posts
I also used a G15 macro to press the space bar every tenth of a second, but it wasn't shooting that fast in practice. Saves the fingers! | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
quick improvement ftw | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13917 Posts
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HaIf
Canada234 Posts
I guess I play too much Touhou :D | ||
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LionsFist
Australia164 Posts
The downside to this is you have to be able to keep your drones up | ||
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
On August 08 2010 17:44 XKiller wrote: If you care and dont want to spend like 3 hours trying for this you can you a trainer for lost viking so much easyier. Disclaimer!!!!!!! ANYONE THAT USES A TRAINER IN MULTIPLAYER SHOULD GET (**************************) (put in want you want i dont want a ban) Don't cheat in a multiplayer game. I don't want to get banned for using a trainer for Lost Viking T_T. I would never use one for anything else, but I'm kind of an achievement whore, and am not used to these retro games. | ||
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blah604
Canada36 Posts
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Yuka
United States133 Posts
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blah604
Canada36 Posts
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Opossum
Germany48 Posts
On August 20 2010 06:23 blah604 wrote: facespace? o_O Guess that works too. | ||
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FromGorkyWithLove
Latvia71 Posts
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blah604
Canada36 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On August 08 2010 04:14 spinesheath wrote: I found lvl 2 plasma + lvl 2 drone much more useful than side missles. The most important tip, if you don't know that already, is that the powerups change their type if you don't collect them right away. So you can always get the powerup type you want. I got all LV achievements using this combo. Though when first starting the spreader is better then get drones then 2x plasma then just hoard bombs until terratron and cheese him with it. | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
level 2 is the hardest, basically prioritize not getting cornered by scourge projectiles, keep side missiles until you have one, preferably two drones, then get plasma missiles cos they make bosses and mini bosses much easier and the drones take care of the small fry stuff mostly. just pay close attention to projectiles on screen and only move when you have to, and when you do very deliberately, and spam the space bar which will clear the screen almost singlehandedly if you have both drones. level 3 is pretty easy if you start out with X2 plasma and X2 drones, just reposition occasionally so your killing as much stuff as possible. science vessels are a little scary, i suggest being very careful cos their crossfire occasionally overlaps in a way where you can get caught with nowhere to run. battlecruisers are a joke if you've got X2 plasma - get out of the way when they do the laser barrage thing and otherwise just pummel them while the drones clean up the wraiths. obviously move a bit if the wraith lasers are getting close. terra-tron is the only really hard part of this level. fire like a madman, focus on surviving. the slow yellow dots are easy, just make slight movements to let them go past you. the spinning ones are harder, try to find a space where both waves of lasers will miss you, that takes some trial and error. i dunno what to do about the stupid saw thing. just do your best to avoid it i guess. -- the next round is mostly the same, but stuff is slightly tougher and faster, same routine works etc etc UNTIL the terran level. those laser beams across the screen definitely change things. i got silver on that run through and then burned through like 6 lives trying to just avoid everything that can kill you. what makes it hard is that you cannot constantly clean up all the wraiths when you need to be careful of those beam things. i don't have a strategy for this yet. wasn't expecting it when i got to it cos the other two levels were laid out the same... i'm sure it must revolve around just surviving cos it seems this level gives you way more points per kill. switching to side missiles at that point might've been useful too. | ||
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TheMute
United States458 Posts
Plasma is crap. I'm a major noob at this game, and I couldn't even get to terra-tron with 2x drone 2x plasma. Killing bosses and mid-bosses fast is nice, but only a luxury. 2x drone 2x split is the way to go. I always got 98-100% in all the levels with that setup. With plasma you will get <98% so it'll take longer for you to get a higher score so you'll have to play more (harder) levels. I got my 500k during the battlecruisers on my run to see terra-tron for the third time. First level is the easiest. Setup your items and then stock up on bombs the next times you come here. Second level, keep an eye on your lost viking. Try to stay in one area, left or right side, and let your drones and split shot do their jobs. When a power up comes, stay directly underneath it and shoot at it. At least for me, it was slightly easier to get to it without having to use a bomb. Third level is where split shot is SUPER helpful. See, the longer the wraiths live, the more they'll shoot. 2x drones 2x split shot clears the screen so fast so you need to dodge less shots fired while you're limited to moving around like a mad man with plasma. Yes you'll be able to kill the battlecruiser super fast, but what's that gonna do when you let a ton of wraiths live and shoot everywhere. I'm not gonna argue which is better for bosses, but the way I look at it, if you can't dodge the bosses attacks, there's no point in killing them faster and you won't reach your goal. Hitting them anywhere you're on the screen is nice too. Use bombs if you think you're gonna die. Use bombs to get another drone powerup if you lost one. If you think you have enough bombs, once in a while you can use a bomb to get another bomb if it's too dangerous. Only get powerups when it's safe. If it isn't safe, let it go by don't fret. I used about 4 bombs each for leviathon and terra-tron and died 3 or 4 times or something in my run through. When I got gold i had 6 lives and 20 bombs. Good luck and cheers. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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VonLego
United States519 Posts
Plasma's also are very nice taking down stuff such as curruptors, BCs, and phoenixes. The only "scary" trash unit is the scourge, which is completely nullified by simply allowing side drones to kill them all in one spot making dodging not only easy, but often entirely unnecessary. Perhaps folks who found the plasma to be crap aren't following the golden rule: Have two drones at all times! Use bombs to pick them up safely if you have to. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
On August 08 2010 04:14 spinesheath wrote: I found lvl 2 plasma + lvl 2 drone much more useful than side missles. The most important tip, if you don't know that already, is that the powerups change their type if you don't collect them right away. So you can always get the powerup type you want. Thanks for that! I suck at plane games, and assumed I couldn't do it after abysmally failing 1-2 times. Then 1 shotted it after trying this and finding out about bomb-invulnerability to avoid getting hit. Agreed with vonLego on drones killing scourges. On the first few times, I avoided busting scourges and probably lost a lot of points for that. Then I noticed I was just sitting there and barely having to move because of the angle the splash is at.. As for side missile vs plasma. Personally I found the extra aoe isnt as useful as quickly killing bosses or the stronger units (phoenix, swarm guardian, those circle things) as they tend to be the things that are most likely to kill you. Drones do a good enough job at sweeping the side stuff imo. But it depends on what youre having more trouble with, so I can see missiles working well too. | ||
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Yurie
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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MouseyPounds
United States28 Posts
On August 17 2010 08:46 Opossum wrote: ... I uploaded it to google code and included a readily compiled exe file which you guys can use without setting up the compiler and everything yourself. http://code.google.com/p/fastspace/ ... Thanks a lot for this Opossum. I actually wound up compiling it myself just cause it was quicker than hunting down the msvcr100.dll needed by the exe, and it worked like a charm. With the space bar spam automated it's so much easier to focus on movement and also easier on my hand/keyboard. I mostly went with plasma but occasionally I'd be slow picking up a bomb and wound up accidentally switching to side missles. I honestly don't think it much matters which of those you pick as long as you have the drones and use your bombs well. | ||
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dim2thesum
United States65 Posts
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theweak99
Philippines4 Posts
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Touch
Canada475 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On August 09 2010 04:42 Decessus wrote: How do I play it after I've beaten the game? Afraid you will have to restart the campain. | ||
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Opossum
Germany48 Posts
Or just load a pre-char save. There should be plenty in your SC2 documents folder. On August 23 2010 07:01 MouseyPounds wrote: Thanks a lot for this Opossum. I actually wound up compiling it myself just cause it was quicker than hunting down the msvcr100.dll needed by the exe, and it worked like a charm. Is anyone else having this issue? I thought that exe would work on any windows machine. Then again, I'm still a total coding noob. | ||
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narr0w
Canada5 Posts
On August 09 2010 08:11 BlueSorc wrote: With minimal experience in this genre, this is by far the hardest achievement for me. The ONLY achievement I'm missing is Lost Viking Gold. I got to 475,000 points with 5 bombs and 2 lives left, then blew it in a flurry of moments of madness. Almost tore my hair out, haven't mustered the will to have another bash yet. This was so painful, and also me today. 492k, with just a few moments to go, blew up twice. :C I nerd raged harder than I've ever nerd raged before! | ||
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
On August 27 2010 03:23 cascades wrote: Anyone got a lost vikings save? It's hard. What so you can cheat for something that gives no actual bonus? It's actually really easy if you use your bombs correctly and stay on side missiles. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On August 27 2010 03:28 Shiladie wrote: What so you can cheat for something that gives no actual bonus? It's actually really easy if you use your bombs correctly and stay on side missiles. side missiles is shit, just dodge and stick to plasma and make sure to keep 2 drones on at all times, this makes bosses and later on much easier imo becuase boss fights dont last 2 hours and you still kill a ton of enemies inbetween due to plasma +2 will kill most in 2 3 hits and drones will help out. | ||
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Yurie
11742 Posts
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humblegar
Norway883 Posts
On August 12 2010 10:27 Malinor wrote: Before level 9 Terratron:499.250 points, one bomb, no life to spare, 3am in the morning. I would call myself clutch right now Was the last achievement I needed also.Was much easier with those Plasma Weapons. Laser''s DPS is meh, even if you shoot everywhere at once. Reminds me of my run, also last achievement, I'll post the screenshots to ease the trauma Alright, desperate - no extra life and four bombs. I'm pretty sure this is over... ![[image loading]](http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6614/lv1u.jpg) How am I still alive? But so many levels, so few points, and still no extra life *shiver* ![[image loading]](http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8168/lv2jd.jpg) And somehow, as by magic, I manage to not die.. gg NO RE :p ![[image loading]](http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/166/lv3w.jpg) | ||
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
For non-bosses, you get a fucktonne more points with side missiles, reducing how many levels you have to do to get the achiev For the carrier, side missiles clear out the interceptors before it starts firing, so you don't have to worry about clutter at all For leviathan, you have to be dodging up the sides so much, as well as it charging to the bottom, that side missiles probably does more damage over-all (when he charges to the bottem, sit beside it and you'll keep hitting it for 100% of the time it's down there with 2x shots) Terratron it is not worth swapping for, especially if you're having trouble, just get side missiles and focus on dodging and you'll win eventually without losing a life, no need to risk yourself by staying in the middle... Also, anyone who's done terran 5-7 (levels 15 18 21) and beyond know that it's impossible without side missiles, as the wraith swarms would just completely overwhelm you. | ||
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CatfooD
United States203 Posts
On August 27 2010 08:58 Shiladie wrote:Also, anyone who's done terran 5-7 (levels 15 18 21) and beyond know that it's impossible without side missiles, as the wraith swarms would just completely overwhelm you. I don't think this should be any rationale for supporting side missiles. People are only trying to get the achievement, not play this game until they shit their brain out. I got my achievement using Plasma, and without even trying got around 95% unit kills after every level. Using side missles just to grant an extra 5% points from regular units isn't a huge bonus at all. Besides, you get 2 seeking missles having 2 drones active at all times anyway to kill any small units like wraiths or scourge. Having a huge boost of firepower to focus down bigger units like swarm guardians, battle cruisers, phoenixes, and especially bosses is a much bigger plus for me. Bosses and special units are the biggest threat throughout the whole game anyway, so getting through them that much faster with Plasma greatly reduces your chances of dying, or even losing a few drones or having to use a few bombs that you didn't need to otherwise. Also, it's ALWAYS worth using a bomb if you think you are about to get hit instead of trying to dodge. Get your 2 Plasma (or side), 2 drones, then start stocking bombs. I especially liked spamming using bombs on Terratron so I could spend half as much time dodging, and twice as much time focusing him down with Plasma. For those that weren't aware, WASD keys work for this game as well. No need to bind them, they are already active. This can seriously help those that are familiar with FPS games that use WASD keys. Just stick your right hand on SPACE instead of using your left thumb. Made it light years easier for me since I was used to playing SOF2. | ||
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Opossum
Germany48 Posts
http://code.google.com/p/fastspace/downloads/list To use it: 1. Start the .exe, an empty command prompt should appear. 2. Press F1 at any time to toggle the space bar emulation. 3. When done, close the program. No installation/uninstallation required. | ||
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funcmode
Australia720 Posts
Theoretically, you could farm points at this boss by not using drones and focusing on taking out the interceptors without damaging the boss, could possibly do it forever since it's such an easy fight. If you're having issues maybe you could try this? | ||
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LeCastor
France234 Posts
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OniNaito
United States1 Post
![[image loading]](http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn311/OniNaito/lvl9.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn311/OniNaito/lvl9-507k.jpg) Even though I was connected to the internet it wouldn't connect to battle net. After playing a few more waves and intentionally dying there was still no connection and still no achievement. I closed the game and reopened it and it reconnected to battle net fine. Joy. Guess I need to give up another hour of my life. | ||
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MinoMino
Norway1103 Posts
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Earll
Norway847 Posts
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fourthirds
Canada132 Posts
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LoveSponge
Australia237 Posts
On August 28 2010 01:50 Opossum wrote: Ok, I managed to remove the dependancy issue of my FastSpace program. The updated version is now on google code and should be usable by any windows user even without that stupid msvcr100.dll: http://code.google.com/p/fastspace/downloads/list To use it: 1. Start the .exe, an empty command prompt should appear. 2. Press F1 at any time to toggle the space bar emulation. 3. When done, close the program. No installation/uninstallation required. I still get the error ): | ||
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
I also farmed about 50k off of the Carrier bosses interceptors. Just get in an area where you aren't hitting him and kill the interceptors as they spew out. It takes forever but it is essentially free points. | ||
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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
The spreadfire keeps you a lot safer, kills a lot more things all over the screen so that you're much safer... all you have to focus on is dodging attacks and not getting hit. You don't have to think about positioning yourself to shoot enemies at all. Plasma does more damage on bosses, but the zerg and protoss bosses are really easy patterns so you don't need help on those. Against Terratron I'm dodging to the side so often (and landing spreadfire shots while doing this) that I think the plasma gun's bonus damage isn't a huge increase in overall damage done. And it would just really distract me to have to focus on getting underneath the bosses if I want to hurt them. | ||
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
On August 28 2010 01:50 Opossum wrote: Ok, I managed to remove the dependancy issue of my FastSpace program. The updated version is now on google code and should be usable by any windows user even without that stupid msvcr100.dll: http://code.google.com/p/fastspace/downloads/list To use it: 1. Start the .exe, an empty command prompt should appear. 2. Press F1 at any time to toggle the space bar emulation. 3. When done, close the program. No installation/uninstallation required. Excellent! Will almost certainly help a lot  Though I still got that missing dll error. Googled the file and found this link: http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr100 Downloaded the file under Free Download and unzipped it into the same folder as the FastSpace program. Then it worked like a charm | ||
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Opossum
Germany48 Posts
On September 07 2010 20:11 3nickma wrote: Excellent! Will almost certainly help a lot Though I still got that missing dll error. Googled the file and found this link: http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr100 Downloaded the file under Free Download and unzipped it into the same folder as the FastSpace program. Then it worked like a charm Hmm weird. Some people didn't have that error anymore after I updated it. However, turned out that this msvcr100.dll is the new C++ runtime library coming with Visual Studio 2010 so you will need to get it sooner or later anyway (as you might know: 90% of the games out there are written in C++). So if you ever get that error again with any program then just download that dll and put it in the program folder like this fella did. Either that or install the dll properly on your windows machine which will probably happen soon anyway by installing newer games or updating your OS. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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3nickma
Denmark1510 Posts
On September 08 2010 08:24 Doraemon wrote: i only got bronze, do you get 10 more points for getting silver and gold? Yes. 10 points for getting Bronze plus 10 additional points for getting Silver and finally 10 points for getting Gold for a total of 30 points (excluding the Terra-Tron Achievement). These Lost Vikings Achievements are the only ones I need before I've got 1559 Campaign Points Hope to get lucky and skilled enough to soon claim the last Achievements | ||
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oddern
Norway6 Posts
Here's the story: I have been playing LV for a couple of days now, every session ends with swollen knuckles after punching my screen (thank god for CRT-monitors). As my frustration grew deeper into my brain, the more obsessed I became with getting the achievement. After many hours of desperation and agony (my hands started hurting, so i had to elbow the monitor instead), I read that plasma wasnt really the way to go, and fuck me sideways, I used side missiles ONE try and I get 500k, I instantly quit after the achievement pops up and I WILL NEVER AGAIN play LV. I must say I am deeply in love with the first poster who said -side missiles-, because that was obviously my magic word. I also dedicate all my rage to the guy on youtube who claimed that "plasma IS THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE GOING TO BEAT THIS!!" And if Blizzard finds out that "hey, lets just make a 1 MILLION achievement!" I'll go postal in the Blizzard HQ. /rage /storytelling /etc | ||
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EnderA
United States8 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + #IfWinActive StarCraft II CapsLock:: toggle := !toggle SoundPlay, *64 return -:: while toggle { Send {Space} Sleep 30 } return Next try I coasted past 500k, piece of cake. I even got it before reaching the third Terratron, because I had an insanely high kill ratio. (I did it with plasma, but it didn't really matter.) Screenshot: ![[image loading]](http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7943/screenshot2010090715050.jpg) Both plasma and side-missiles have their advantages: Plasma: +Better vs. bosses/minibosses +Faster progress +Can enable conservation of bombs for advanced players (Bomb usage on bosses depends on length of the boss fight, which is significantly sped up by plasma.) +Still 1-hit KOs many things after difficulty increases -Somewhat restricts positioning, requires awareness -More risky -Can allow units to build up -May miss units, missing points Side-missiles: +Better vs. waves +Better defense vs. screen full of units +Unrestricted positioning +Less dangerous for novices (who struggle with overall awareness and positioning) -Drones already shoot to the side -Unable to focus-fire on bosses/mini-bosses -Bosses take significantly longer Overall, for advanced players looking to get the highest score possible, I'd recommend plasma until level 15, then switch to side missiles, and using a program/script/macro to spam spacebar for you. As someone mentioned, the 5th terran level onward has too many things going on at the same time to comfortably handle it with plasma. The macro will spare your concentration and hands, and give you maximum firepower. Also, someone mentioned that the drones have their own hit-box, which isn't true. They absorb a hit to your ship, not to themselves. tl;dr: For noobs: -Use Side-missiles + Drones + Bombs. Maximum is 2 missile upgrades, 2 drones, and no cap on bombs (afaik). Getting plasma replaces side-missiles. -Use Bombs to save yourself, they destroy projectiles and give you brief invulnerability. Especially use them on boss fights, where you won't get replacement for your drone, and many of their shots will instantly kill you despite drones. -Wait for powerups to change to what you want them to be. They cycle through all 4 once before floating off. -If you want to make it easier, get a program to spam spacebar for you. (Try AutoHotkey like me, or the script another guy posted in this thread.) | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On September 07 2010 20:11 3nickma wrote: Excellent! Will almost certainly help a lot Though I still got that missing dll error. Googled the file and found this link: http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr100 Downloaded the file under Free Download and unzipped it into the same folder as the FastSpace program. Then it worked like a charm thanks! now i just gotta play the dam minigame ghaa its a stupid achievement if you ask me.... | ||
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29 fps
United States5722 Posts
in addition to EnderA's post (a few posts above) side missiles or plasma? side missiles mean you'll use most of your bombs on the boss (since boss fights are longer). plasma means you'll use more bombs against the regular enemies (like when there's a screen full of scourge or wraiths chasing you. against terratron, i used 5 bombs against him when fighting with side missiles, but only 2 when using plasma (im not that good, so you might need fewer than i did). | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
I needed no bombs for either the carrier or the leva (just gotta know how to move). I would sometimes need 2-3 bombs for terratron I ended at 500k with about 20 bombs - which is more than enough. Moral of the story: Go with what works for you. | ||
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SodomyAhoy
9 Posts
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Tofuicecream
United States8 Posts
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sva
United States747 Posts
You can use your bombs in risky situations. | ||
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SodomyAhoy
9 Posts
On November 10 2010 04:17 Tofuicecream wrote: Touhou is very different from lost viking. Your hit box is very small in comparison to how much space you're given to move around whereas in lost viking, you explode no matter where you get hit. For lost viking, I got over 500k easily after I got used to the boss patterns. What I did was go for side missiles, drones, and turned the rest into bombs. I mean, you get like 9+ items per stage and if you already have 2 upgrades for drones and missiles, that's 9 bombs which are essentially 9 extra lives if you time it right. Also, just spam space bar for the bosses when you can as it increases your rate of fire, and focus on dodging/holding space bar for the rest. Yes but it makes Lost Viking very easy in comparison, projectiles move very slowly and you always have plenty of screen space to move around within. I quit my 1st LV play after just getting bored after like 700k with 12 or 13 lives or something like that? It's been months since I touched it | ||
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DragonmawNWL
3 Posts
I have Starcraft 2 on alt-tab and am approaching 600,000 points. I think I'm on loop number 4, and the levels seem the same as loop 3. I have about 18 bombs, and 6 lives. I feel like I could play this thing forever if I had the desire to. P.S.: Here's my guide: 2 drones, Plasma weapon, and an occasional bomb when you are in trouble = never die edit - went to 830,000. Was tempted to go for a million, but couldn't bring myself to continue. After getting the gold achievment, boredom is the biggest challenge. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6163 Posts
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xaeiu
432 Posts
On May 22 2011 04:31 FaCE_1 wrote: it doesnt end yeah...afaik you can play that endless i stopped at lvl 5 since my hand just got tired i read somewhere from ppl on 9 and 10 and nothing changed either | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On May 22 2011 06:36 xaeiu wrote: yeah...afaik you can play that endless i stopped at lvl 5 since my hand just got tired i read somewhere from ppl on 9 and 10 and nothing changed either They increase the HP every 3 levels or something ( levels 1/4/7... | ||
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sanctity
United Kingdom14 Posts
On May 22 2011 04:16 DragonmawNWL wrote: Does Lost Viking ever end? ... edit - went to 830,000. Was tempted to go for a million, but couldn't bring myself to continue. After getting the gold achievment, boredom is the biggest challenge. I got to 902,850 before I gave up, it doesn't seem to end. | ||
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oZe
Sweden492 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
On May 22 2011 21:54 oZe wrote: There is a "Winners never quit. Quitters never win." feat of strength if you get 2M. You are kidding? Right? I hope you are - It would take about 2.5ish hours to get up to 2M points. | ||
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bwally
United States670 Posts
Use Plasma+Drones for the carrier boss level and leviathan boss level. You can farm additional points from the carrier boss by just killing interceptors over and over. Once you have +2 plasma and 2 bots make sure to get bombs only. After you beat leviathan and get to the terran level you should get +2 side missiles. Shortly after you kill the 2 battlecruisiers you should switch back to +2 plasma for terratron. If you're good you won't have to use 3-4 bombs to beat him but you can use 3-4 bombs and not lose any drones and it's pretty easy when using bombs. Repeat. | ||
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Walls
United States172 Posts
BUT THEN i realized that i had to do the entire storyline again to get some of the achievements like the one that says finish the game in less than 8 hours, and so i just stopped thinking about campaign achievements. | ||
iHirO
United Kingdom1381 Posts
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
Personally I've always used the Plasma Torpedoes + Drones all throughout the game. If you have trouble with a boss, save bombs and use them on that boss (though don't use them on the Carrier boss if you can since it's the easiest of the 3). | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On May 23 2011 00:38 Sanguinarius wrote: You are kidding? Right? I hope you are - It would take about 2.5ish hours to get up to 2M points. No such thing exists. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
But then again, maybe I just suck at lost viking so I'm spiteful of it ^^ | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
Didn't think so - just wanted to make sure. I couldn't find any record of it on the interwebs. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On August 09 2010 04:42 Decessus wrote: How do I play it after I've beaten the game? As far as I know it's not possible unless you either start a new campaign and get back to the ship, or are able to load an older save on the ship. The first missions don't take that long though, but I do agree it's slightly annoying that you cannot play Lost Viking outside of campaign. (According to what I know..?) | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
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LoneWolf.Alpha
United States115 Posts
On August 08 2010 04:04 HarleyM wrote: Use side missles until the battlecruisers. After that get plasma x2 for the final boss. Then switch back. The hardest part for me was staying awake... I suicided with about 13 lives after I got 500k. For upgrade order... 2x weapon, 2x drone, bombs bombs bombs. Like he said, use bombs rather than getting hit. As a side note... Galactix > Lost viking (and every other Space Invaders I've ever played) how do i play it on windows 7. it says "doesn't support full screen mode" | ||
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iloveav
Poland1478 Posts
On August 08 2010 03:13 xmShake wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=139151 +1, this is how i did it, went form "wtf, this is hard!" to, "lol, i should stop this, you cant die here." | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On May 23 2011 21:58 Sanguinarius wrote: Didn't think so - just wanted to make sure. I couldn't find any record of it on the interwebs. It's possible to check every achievement and Feat of Strength that exist by looking at the MPQ files (look for the icons) or by going to the galaxy editor and opening the respective map in the campaign to look for any hidden achievements (look in the triggers section). So that means Blizzard can't hide anything >.>. But yeah the achievement does not exist. | ||
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clm100
United States18 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +
To use it: Save the contents above to the file cstroker.c in your home directory (or elsewhere, if you know what you're doing). Open /Applications/Terminal.app Compile it with this command: gcc -o cstroker cstroker.c -O -Wall -framework ApplicationServicess You then launch Lost Viking, hit pause. Switch back to Terminal.app (cmd-m window-modes SC2, if you need it) Launch my program with: ./cstroker Switch back to Lost Viking. Win! | ||
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Bladelore
9 Posts
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CanucksJC
Canada1241 Posts
It's really easy once you get in a rhythm imo... once I lost a drone, it seems like i was struggling to get back in the game for some reason. | ||
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Pamposek
Czech Republic56 Posts
On May 23 2011 01:53 Walls wrote: I got that achievement just by playing the game over and over i think it took me 3 days playing it for 1-2 hours each day. BUT THEN i realized that i had to do the entire storyline again to get some of the achievements like the one that says finish the game in less than 8 hours, and so i just stopped thinking about campaign achievements. Staying on ship (not doing missions) doesnt count for achievement hurry it's raid night, so you can continue with your effort ... | ||
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
And then then I guess 1000 wins for 1v1/2v2 each race could be considered hard. But that's mostly just time and patience. You could technically drop down to bronze and win games easily, and just auto leave every other game to keep you down low. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1058 Posts
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Zocik
Poland1 Post
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
EDIT: bah lol i just give up XD | ||
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Pelirrojo
United States98 Posts
Don't be stingy with your bombs: use them as soon as it looks like you might be in danger of getting hit by something. Better to use a bomb than lose a drone (or a life). I mostly only needed bombs for the bosses during the first 2 runs (but again use them any time you think you might get hit - better safe than sorry). The third time through I was pretty much spamming them because I wanted to be super safe and not die so close to the end. | ||
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
It's actually quite easy. I quit just after 1000000 points with 7 lives and around 20 bombs... and then I was told there is supposedly a hidden 2M point achievement | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On June 18 2011 04:35 flodeskum wrote: Just use plasma, make sure you always have drones and always use bombs instead of taking hits. It's actually quite easy. I quit just after 1000000 points with 7 lives and around 20 bombs... and then I was told there is supposedly a hidden 2M point achievement a 2 Million point achievement? Is this true? I played for a long time but I don't believe this at all. | ||
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On June 18 2011 05:59 Torte de Lini wrote: a 2 Million point achievement? Is this true? I played for a long time but I don't believe this at all. I don't know if it is true. Might just be my friends trolling me. I don't think I'd want to waste my time to find out anyway. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On June 18 2011 12:03 flodeskum wrote: I don't know if it is true. Might just be my friends trolling me. I don't think I'd want to waste my time to find out anyway. Doesn't exist in the mpq files and won't exist in the game either... | ||
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boredrex
United States137 Posts
I found that using side missiles, not plasma was better. side missiles plus 2 drones completely annihilates waves. If you park int he lower center of the screen, mashing space, you will most likely kill waves after wave before they get on screen. Side missiles are most valuable during the terran wave, as the toss wave and zerg wave are not that difficult. The trade-off is that the terra-tron is more difficult with sidemissiles, but totally doable. Also, an important note is your KEYBOARD POSITION. I have my left hand on the space bar, and my right hand on the arrows, but most importantly, the thumb on my right hand on right control. Never lose your cool if you get hit. if you get hit, hit escape, chill out for a second, and then get back into it. Also, be liberal with your use of bombs. you only need two bombs max to defeat the terratron. if you play your cards right, you can get 10 bombs in each level, except the toss level, where you get maybe 6 or 7. Also, because bombs are points, use a bomb to get a bomb if you must, and always use a bomb to get two or three bombs if there is anything hostile on the screen. (there is a spot on the zerg stage where if you wait a moment, there can be three bomb pick-ups at once.) Finally, I noticed that interceptors are worth 50 points each. If you can't get through the game, but you have the time, maybe you can get plasma, and kill some 1000 interceptors? | ||
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Tekie
16 Posts
What helped me a lot is this: - dont concentrate on hitting sth, only concentrate on dodging. (the MOST important rule) - no need to dodge with fast and big movements. dodge slowly is much easier. Otherwise the risk is high, that you run into some stray bullet. if you feel unconfident, use a bomb. Dont think twice about it. Just use it. - be patient with power ups. They stay for quite a while. dont grap them right when you see one. - use bomb to get drone power up, if you dont have 2 drones. - drone > everything else. Not just for extra life, but because of the shooting. | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
edit: also the bomb button is, tragically, right next to the windows button -_- | ||
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kingJY
United States39 Posts
here's a quick preview of what ur missing | ||
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Svartstol
Sweden171 Posts
On June 20 2011 11:06 kingJY wrote: If you want to beat lost viking, play a bit of Tohou! here's a quick preview of what ur missing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utGmwWVq-ck Wow, this looks really fun | ||
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Cubbieblue66
95 Posts
And whatever crazy game that is you guys are linking makes me want to cry. | ||
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teekesselchen
Germany886 Posts
When you go at it with an ease mind, just follow these tactics. Might sound like a lot of stuff, but actually it is very intuitive after having played lost viking just a few times. Very few skill is required when you have the tactics down. General tips: -Priority 1: Dodging/Surviving -Priority 2: Constant shooting, with pressing space rapidly, not just holding it down, because it's faster -Priority 3: Shooting them down as fast as possible. First the squishy ones, when you are for example at battle cruiser/science vessels. Kill those last. Take care not to colide with anyone. -Priority 4: Get the RIGHT items. You will definitly want plasma bullets in Terran level, so take those asap. When another weapon upgrade pops up although you already have your weapon maxed, then wait until it turns into a drone or bomb! Item priority: Lv2 weapon > Drone > Bomb. Actually you should gather the lv 2 plasma gun right at the very beginning and then never again pick weapon upgrades (only if you die). Keep up two drones at all times, you should have two during mid of first Zerg level at the very latest. Drones will also deal the majority of damage in many levels, beucause they aim for themselves, and basically add a life point! This allows you to avoid all fire and still kill all enemies without even aiming. This is especially useful in boss fights where you often dodge like crazy and cannot apply much damage without drones. Bombs: Use them often, whenever you sense danger. Especially against corrupters, battlecruisers, science vessels when there also are also lots of small ships around. This is especially true in higher terran levels when there are also flame throwers at the sides. You should keep a high bomb stack at all times. This is easily done, when you keep your two drones alive and wait for all dropping items to become bombs. You may use a bomb in order to collect a drone when you miss one, or in order to collect a new bomb, when you cannot reach it safely otherwise. You should also sacrifice a bomb in order to safe a drone when you have to. This is a good trade, because you always want two drones, and it doesn't matter whether you lose a drone and collect a new one later, or use a bomb and collect a new one. Saving the drone has priority, always. Always use a bomb when you cannot dodge anymore. They make you invincible for a short moment and kill off all shots that are in the air. As I said, rather sacrifice a bomb than a drone. | ||
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Piou
Belgium415 Posts
The purpose of my post is just to bring some light on a trick i read on TLpedia so don't flame me plz, i really hope that my video will make blizzard fix the bug. So basicly there is a way to save the game in Lost viking as explained in various threads and on TLpedia which makes the achievement really easy to get. + Show Spoiler + If this post does not respect TL's rule, i will delet it ASAP no need to ban me | ||
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Duval
Belgium144 Posts
Since the menu isn't normally accessible, I'm pretty sure blizz did not intend to have it this way, have you posted this on the battle.net forums? There they can actually do something about it | ||
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nucLeaRTV
Romania822 Posts
On May 21 2012 01:18 Piou wrote: Hey guys, The purpose of my post is just to bring some light on a trick i read on TLpedia so don't flame me plz, i really hope that my video will make blizzard fix the bug. So basicly there is a way to save the game in Lost viking as explained in various threads and on TLpedia which makes the achievement really easy to get. + Show Spoiler + If this post does not respect TL's rule, i will delet it ASAP no need to ban me I don't get that menu Perhaps it only works with French client or something. | ||
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Alex-Berker
United Kingdom117 Posts
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BjoernK
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TSBspartacus
England1046 Posts
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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Eviscerador
Spain286 Posts
I never get tired of this shoot em up games. Never | ||
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D4V3Z02
Germany693 Posts
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D4V3Z02
Germany693 Posts
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
On August 08 2010 03:05 Zzoram wrote: I've gotten everything but the Lost Viking achievements for singleplayer. I am awful and schmups so I'm thinking that this will be impossible for me. Are there any tips on how to beat the arcade game? God no tips. I was terrible at the game, like the worst. But as stubborn as I am, I got all the achievements in single player just by sheer willpower. Keep trying man. I'm sure you'll get it. | ||
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metluk
Poland3 Posts
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