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On August 05 2010 04:04 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2010 14:05 Logo wrote:On August 04 2010 13:58 tgdm wrote: No one finds Valerian's knowledge of the artifacts and their effects on the zerg convenient?
p.s. it wasn't a zerg artifact they used to 'purge' her.
I'm leaning on Kerrigan still being mostly zerg. I think it was the original SC where there was no hero for the campaign mode (you were always hailed as the overmind). The zerg are always evolving, though, so I'm sure they'll think of something. I attribute that to Dr. Narud (Duran) as his objective would be to help the Terran/Protoss defeat Kerrigan and kill her so the hybrids can take over the Zerg. In the original SC you were either a commander, a cerebrate, or a protoss commander (whatever that title was). In SC2 it seems kinda odd. You're sorta Jim Raynor but mostly not. SC1 you were Terran Magistrate Cerebrate (Killed by Tassadar) Artanis Selendis UED Captain (killed by Kerrigan) Cerebrate (killed by Kerrigan)
In SC, you were a Protoss Executor or just a commander. Selendis wasn't even in SC1 since she's a new character for SC2.
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What everyone in the whole of TL said about Kerrigan is my opinion. But I am going to go a bit overboard and say that I have a feeling that we have not seen the last of Tychus yet. Plus I have a feeling UED will return.
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These are only thoughts, I have no idea what will happen and might be totally wrong. Still interesting enough of an idea to elaborate :D
1. We know that the next generation of Xel'naga will be born from the protoss and the zergs but it's not by combining the DNA like Duran is doing.
2. We also know that the artifacts are part of the puzzle to the return of the Xel'naga.
3. Zeratul foresaw that the death of Kerrigan would mean the doom of the universe to the Dark Voice and his hybrids.
So what happens if you merge a zerg with the protoss essence using the protoss artifacts? That could very well create the next generation of Xel'naga. And what happens if you merge a zerg/terran with the protoss essence?
You might have a new generation of Xel'naga created by the essences of 3 races instead of 2. Wich means increased powers, and the ability to fight the Dark One like the prophesy foretold.
The Xel'naga never really created Zerg ad Protoss, they helped them and wanted to use their essence (best trait of the race) to reproduce. No one has ever said this requiers only two essences, and none knows the real process of creating this new generation of Xel'naga. If the Xel'naga noticed or recognized potential in the terrans back in the days, maybe they would have helped them too. And maybe they would have found something useful in the 'essence'. Useful enough to be planning to use their essence in their next generation. (I'm guessing the terrans were'nt even existing back then)
Terrans have something the other 2 races have not: creativity, loose-mind and artistic sense.
The Dark One may be all powerfull and be able to foresaw the future. But chances are he did not put the terrans in his equation. Thus, creativity of the terran essence might be the key to defeating the Dark One, and to the next generation of Xel'naga.
So, Kerrigan is the first of the new generation of Xel'naga. Combining essence of the 3 races. She might very well ressurect the overmind, lead the swarm against Mensk as he did side with Duran and the Dark One. That would be the story of HoTS. ( if you think about it, the Heart of the swarm is the overmind right? No way it will not be ressurected.)
What's cool about prophesies is, they are most of the time misinterpreted. You gotta think outside the box!
Again, these are only thoughts!!
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Well with the Xel naga coming around and the zerg being their "perfect creation" Id imagine theyd do some reinstating
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Can still be kerrigan ("Kerrigan, you must retain control of your zerg and prevent the xelnaga from using it to annihilate the world!") - she can have a struggle of power vs some xelnaga lackey. Vs Terran she can always fight vs the dominion (help raynor kill mangsk?) and vs protoss the taldarim/any tribe that dedicate their life in killing zerg...
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On August 05 2010 05:23 zoLo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 04:04 Last Romantic wrote:On August 04 2010 14:05 Logo wrote:On August 04 2010 13:58 tgdm wrote: No one finds Valerian's knowledge of the artifacts and their effects on the zerg convenient?
p.s. it wasn't a zerg artifact they used to 'purge' her.
I'm leaning on Kerrigan still being mostly zerg. I think it was the original SC where there was no hero for the campaign mode (you were always hailed as the overmind). The zerg are always evolving, though, so I'm sure they'll think of something. I attribute that to Dr. Narud (Duran) as his objective would be to help the Terran/Protoss defeat Kerrigan and kill her so the hybrids can take over the Zerg. In the original SC you were either a commander, a cerebrate, or a protoss commander (whatever that title was). In SC2 it seems kinda odd. You're sorta Jim Raynor but mostly not. SC1 you were Terran Magistrate Cerebrate (Killed by Tassadar) Artanis Selendis UED Captain (killed by Kerrigan) Cerebrate (killed by Kerrigan) In SC, you were a Protoss Executor or just a commander. Selendis wasn't even in SC1 since she's a new character for SC2.
well, the executor from episode 3 has been confirmed to be artanis, the executor from episode 4 is unknown, even though it's possible that it's artanis, too.
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On August 05 2010 09:10 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 05:23 zoLo wrote:On August 05 2010 04:04 Last Romantic wrote:On August 04 2010 14:05 Logo wrote:On August 04 2010 13:58 tgdm wrote: No one finds Valerian's knowledge of the artifacts and their effects on the zerg convenient?
p.s. it wasn't a zerg artifact they used to 'purge' her.
I'm leaning on Kerrigan still being mostly zerg. I think it was the original SC where there was no hero for the campaign mode (you were always hailed as the overmind). The zerg are always evolving, though, so I'm sure they'll think of something. I attribute that to Dr. Narud (Duran) as his objective would be to help the Terran/Protoss defeat Kerrigan and kill her so the hybrids can take over the Zerg. In the original SC you were either a commander, a cerebrate, or a protoss commander (whatever that title was). In SC2 it seems kinda odd. You're sorta Jim Raynor but mostly not. SC1 you were Terran Magistrate Cerebrate (Killed by Tassadar) Artanis Selendis UED Captain (killed by Kerrigan) Cerebrate (killed by Kerrigan) In SC, you were a Protoss Executor or just a commander. Selendis wasn't even in SC1 since she's a new character for SC2. well, the executor from episode 3 has been confirmed to be artanis, the executor from episode 4 is unknown, even though it's possible that it's artanis, too.
Where was it confirmed? Possible for episode 3. Episode 4 DEFINITELY not because you meet Artanis lol.
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perhaps the overmind or kerrigan or duran or alexei stukov
duran was my fave since the first mission where i met him, i cant wait to see more of him.
"i think im having a technical difficulty!" while stukov's forces are getting raped by the zerg, rofl!
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I think Kerrigan still has control of the swarm...if not how is she going to release the zerg from slavery and save the world from the hybrids?
I too think the missions will be Kerrigan wrestling to control the zerg once more.
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Kerrigan is indeed the main character according to their FAQ
The first expansion set, Heart of the Swarm (working title), will follow later and include a single-player campaign focusing on the zerg and Kerrigan, Queen of Blades
They've already talked about Kerrigan using mutations to strengthen herself so she can't be fully human or at least not for long.
The Zerg may have more RPG-like elements as they try to upgrade their Queen. http://www.1up.com/news/starcraft-2-trilogy
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The zerg can be controlled through psi energy. Kerrigan was the best ghosts their ever was so I wouldn't be suprised to see her regain a signifigant portion of the swarm within a few minutes(probably a whole planet)
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Sorry to be mean about this, but do you guys even read/care about the story?
First off, Tychus is definitely dead, its on the end screen.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VLds3.png)
Also, like previously posted Heart of the Swarm is said by blizzard to focus on kerrigan, and the screen shot above even says you discover Kerrigan's fate and the rest of the zerg. They don't say raynor, they don't say mengsk's fate, they say Kerrigan and the zerg.
Her connection with the zerg isn't over yet, even if she is not fully zerg anymore.
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On August 05 2010 10:32 btlyger wrote:Sorry to be mean about this, but do you guys even read/care about the story? First off, Tychus is definitely dead, its on the end screen. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VLds3.png) Also, like previously posted Heart of the Swarm is said by blizzard to focus on kerrigan, and the screen shot above even says you discover Kerrigan's fate and the rest of the zerg. They don't say raynor, they don't say mengsk's fate, they say Kerrigan and the zerg. Her connection with the zerg isn't over yet, even if she is not fully zerg anymore.
I guess I'm partly in denial. I mean, part of what made the zerg so unique and made me want to play them is just how ...dark they are. They are without a doubt the "monsters" of the sc legacy. At least until this latest campaign. Think about it, you got to play as the servant of an all powerful Overmind who only cared to assimilate and destroy. Even while playing in multiplayer, am I the only one who got the shivers just from seeing the Overmind's eye in the icon screen.
I guess I just don't want the zerg to become a "misunderstood" race like the orcs. I mean, are they even sentinent? I know the overmind is, but the zerg themselves? If the zerg become simply "slaves" than what does zerg really mean anymore.
I myself would probably prefer a new Zerg Leader unwittingly serving the Xel Naga, and all the while destroy terran and toss and Kerrigan, who struggles with her zerg broods. As long as the zerg had remained "dark" they were epic. Even this storyline would be alright if the Overmind could really still be an evil being. Not just self-serving, but truly just.... Borg like. Maybe tricked, but slaves? Guess I was in denial.
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On August 05 2010 05:23 zoLo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 04:04 Last Romantic wrote:On August 04 2010 14:05 Logo wrote:On August 04 2010 13:58 tgdm wrote: No one finds Valerian's knowledge of the artifacts and their effects on the zerg convenient?
p.s. it wasn't a zerg artifact they used to 'purge' her.
I'm leaning on Kerrigan still being mostly zerg. I think it was the original SC where there was no hero for the campaign mode (you were always hailed as the overmind). The zerg are always evolving, though, so I'm sure they'll think of something. I attribute that to Dr. Narud (Duran) as his objective would be to help the Terran/Protoss defeat Kerrigan and kill her so the hybrids can take over the Zerg. In the original SC you were either a commander, a cerebrate, or a protoss commander (whatever that title was). In SC2 it seems kinda odd. You're sorta Jim Raynor but mostly not. SC1 you were Terran Magistrate Cerebrate (Killed by Tassadar) Artanis Selendis UED Captain (killed by Kerrigan) Cerebrate (killed by Kerrigan) In SC, you were a Protoss Executor or just a commander. Selendis wasn't even in SC1 since she's a new character for SC2.
Pretty sure they explicitly called you executor in the first game so that. You replaced Tassadar.
I agree with people that at least iwth hte start of the next game Kerrigan will work to regain control of the zerg.
I disagree with the person who said that Kerrigan is a combination of 3 races. The artifact was not protoss but xelnaga. So no protoss elements were infused into her. Rather, the reason the combination of her and the zerg works is because she is probably the most powerul human psychic ever. This puts here on level with a protoss and provides the necessary elements for a combination. I dunno whether or not she is human will make much difference but it might. We'll see.
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Either it's a flashback / prequel of Kerrigan, or Kerrigan wasn't disinfected and backstabbed / kill Raynor (she still has Zerg hair).
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I think the next campaign will be Kerrigan attempting to regain control of the swarm....this time to prevent the Xel Naga baddies from using it to end everything.
I'm certainly glad to see Blizzard do something other than it's normal "bad guys win" claptrap storytelling. I thought WOL was great and had a wonderful ending.
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On August 05 2010 10:41 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2010 10:32 btlyger wrote:Sorry to be mean about this, but do you guys even read/care about the story? First off, Tychus is definitely dead, its on the end screen. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VLds3.png) Also, like previously posted Heart of the Swarm is said by blizzard to focus on kerrigan, and the screen shot above even says you discover Kerrigan's fate and the rest of the zerg. They don't say raynor, they don't say mengsk's fate, they say Kerrigan and the zerg. Her connection with the zerg isn't over yet, even if she is not fully zerg anymore. I guess I'm partly in denial. I mean, part of what made the zerg so unique and made me want to play them is just how ...dark they are. They are without a doubt the "monsters" of the sc legacy. At least until this latest campaign. Think about it, you got to play as the servant of an all powerful Overmind who only cared to assimilate and destroy. Even while playing in multiplayer, am I the only one who got the shivers just from seeing the Overmind's eye in the icon screen. I guess I just don't want the zerg to become a "misunderstood" race like the orcs. I mean, are they even sentinent? I know the overmind is, but the zerg themselves? If the zerg become simply "slaves" than what does zerg really mean anymore. I myself would probably prefer a new Zerg Leader unwittingly serving the Xel Naga, and all the while destroy terran and toss and Kerrigan, who struggles with her zerg broods. As long as the zerg had remained "dark" they were epic. Even this storyline would be alright if the Overmind could really still be an evil being. Not just self-serving, but truly just.... Borg like. Maybe tricked, but slaves? Guess I was in denial.
Technically though, they are the misunderstood race. I know some people who think zergs are brutal killing machines whose sole purpose is to annihilate everything. Well, that's partially true. It's not the individual zerg creatures who harbor those feelings, but the Overmind, the Cerebrates, and then Kerrigan who commands them. Without a leader to control them, they're just different strains of their peaceful ancestors. Hark back to the campaign in SC where you go around with the psi emitter picking up lost and confused zergling and hydras. That's exactly what they are. I'm sure if they're being controlled by someone nice and fluffy, they'll in turn become essentially domesticated pets.
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On August 04 2010 16:13 tgdm wrote: "infected" not infected ^-- about Samir Duran
infected not infected huh?
did you mean to say "infested, not infected"?
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Wow! I didn't catch the Narud = Duran thing before reading this thread. I didn't give that guy a second thought. Also, Kerrigan keeping Zerg features tells me she is still Zerg enough to controll the Swarm. She might be cured of the infestation and subsequently the same compulsion as the Overmind, while the psionic enhancement from the crysalis metamorphosis remains intact.
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