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On August 15 2010 23:04 dragondeathlord wrote:It's a good bet we will see Ulrezaj working for Dark Voice But Dark Voice is far older than the xel'naga Never mind the Protoss. He was Old before the Xel'naga were ever born. Claimed he's really the one true creator God. Xel'naga locked him up before they even created The Protoss and then the Zerg. Dark Voice used to go around being The great Eater of Worlds Destroying Civilizations.(cough cough Galactus Rip off c cou cough). And Dark Voice would not need to steal knowledge to create a dark archon or anything else like Ulrezaj did. Ulrezaj Might of become His Host and possessed,Foolishly thinking he could add him to his Energy mix and still dominate the form. Ulrezaj cocky enough to try it. But even the Xel'naga wear terrified of the Dark Voice. Ulrezaj Old but he not that old. http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_VoiceAnd here a quote from http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/UlrezajShow nested quote +Dark Future
"Ulrezaj and the being he serves are stronger than you can possibly imagine."
- Felanis discusses his motives with Alzadar.(src)
"Whoa, whoa—Ulrezaj has a boss?"
- Rosemary Dahl's reaction(src)
Main article: The Dark Templar Saga As I said sounds like he's a Servant herald of Dark Voice. I wonder if he'll give Ulrezaj and Duran Silver Surf Boards as a Job Well done Thank you? PS And atrain117 Sorry, I do get carried away a bit at times.
no problemo.
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Here one last thought I had What if Duran is really Ulrezaj? That would account for him being thousands of years old. He is that old. And he could of found out about Dark Voice and his Prison from the forbidden knowledge held at the Wall of Knowledge the Same place he found how to be a super Dark Archon.
The Location of the Prison of Ultimate Evil sounds like the sort of thing that should be forbidden.
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It's possible that kerrigan could still have control over some zerg broods in HOTS fully human. In SC1 i remember there being discussion of the psionic abilities of ghosts having effects on the zerg (not infested ghosts or anything, just regular confederate/dominion ghosts). As we all know, even before becoming infested, kerrigan had psionic abilities much stronger than that of the average ghost. If she retained even a semblance of the psionic power that Infested Kerrigan had, she could at least control a nearby zerg swarm. As a previous poster stated, the artifact may have simply reverted her psionic abilities back to "level 1" while purging her of the infestation. As Blizzard has stated that HOTS would contain RPG elements, it would make perfect sense for Kerrigan to build her abilities back up to max level throughout the single player campaign.
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Dr. Narud is likely Duran himself. If Duran is indeed of non-human species, his physical form is inconsequential.
The Overmind is dead, and the cerebrates are dead (where the heck did Kerrigan's pet cerebrate from Brood War go?). If Kerrigan is dead and out of the way, the next most powerful falls in line of succession. In that case, it would be Duran. As Kerrigan's ex-lieutenant, it is known that Duran was capable of commanding Zerg. Small wonders what Duran will be able to gain if Kerrigan is out of the way.
Kerrigan will still be the main character in HOTS. In human form, she will embark on a journey to restore her control over the Zerg and regain the powers of the Queen of the Blades.
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Kerrigan will still lead the zerg in heart of the swarm. Whether or not she will be re-infected (by will or by force) is unknown, but she will most certainly lead them. She is the key to defeating the hybrids from Zeratul's vision of the future. Without the Queen of Blades, the Hybrids take over the zerg and consume them (which is why the Overmind created her to begin with).
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On August 16 2010 13:00 dragondeathlord wrote:
Here one last thought I had What if Duran is really Ulrezaj? That would account for him being thousands of years old. He is that old. And he could of found out about Dark Voice and his Prison from the forbidden knowledge held at the Wall of Knowledge the Same place he found how to be a super Dark Archon.
The Location of the Prison of Ultimate Evil sounds like the sort of thing that should be forbidden.
I think its obvious that Ulrezaj, Duran, Narud, and quite possibly others have donned the Dark Voice's persona at different times or simultaneously throughout SC -> BW -> SC2:WoL. Im sure as the plot develops we'll suspect more characters to be responsible for this perversion of the cycle via the Dark Voice..
This entity could be the 'destroyer of civilizations' via this method of developing armies that cancel 'eachother out' - the hybrid and enslaving species that were meant to assimilate to reform the Xel'Naga in this particular cycle the Xel'Naga do. I'm sure this way of "mind-controlling" certain characters throughout the story is the way the Dark Voice gains a foot-hold on unassuming civilizations like the Terran, Protoss, and Zerg.
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I think the Zerg will naturally develop a new being to manage the Hive Clusters (either a new form of Overmind, Cerebrate, and Queen etc.) in the Queen of Blades absense. The Zerg obviously need a leader and with the Artifact being used, we arent sure if either it removes infestation, weakens psychic powers, or strengthens it.
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After reading many of these i have come across my belief
i think what will happen is you will be kerrigan or a zerg queen(like in WoL your kind of raynor but more in a sense a commander dude thats like raynor's right hand man). the game will open with some huge cinematic between all the main guys talking about what must be done and eventually agree upon kerrigan trying to control the zerg for the upcoming battle. you will then proceed to gain control, gaining new units every mission much like in WoL, and you will basically just build up the zerg army while fighting the dominion with raynor, and learning more of the hybrids. You will then proceed to find more artifacts which will either tell more about this dark voice, and the xel naga, or will give kerrigan more power.(may also bring the lab portion of WoL into the HoTS with kerrigan getting stronger) and you meet up with Zeratul who will begin to join in with you as well, and you find a few protoss willing to join you rather than the hybrids, giving zeratul a small force.(a small ally that might not even participate in any missions which will lead to the next expansion where zeratul gets a protoss force and you fight the invasion of hybrids, ending it with a cliffhanger oh the dark voice not dying, and there comes sc3 in 12 years with his defeat)
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Infested tycus findley gots my vote as the new zerg leader
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Artifact mas revealed as big Battery that absorbs Zerg and Protoss Energy by Dr. Ariel Hanson if you Keep her on board long enough.
And it's suposed to be the Key to the Dark Voice Return.
So now it's got a Zerg Charge Now all it Needs is a Protoss Charge.
This Device Is ether not Xel'naga or being used in a way never intended As Xel'naga were useless pacifists. Dark Voice on the other hand was described as eating worlds.
Arcturus Mengsk has the Artifact and he was Making Hybrids with Unknown Alien Technology nether Protoss or Xel'naga so now if he's working with Dark Voice (ether directly or though it's Agents) he will charge the Artifact with Protoss Life Force.
And the Battery will be full to what end no clue ether it's the Key becouse Daark Voice Needs a Meal after so Long or It will Be used to Empower the Hybrids.
The Hybrids are not Xel'naga as Dark Voice is Messing with it. But the Xel'naga Originally intended the two race to Come together peaceful and become a new Xel'naga.As they knew that there race would die out .Some how. Not that Over Mind Would eat them that was a shock.
Zerg Have Purity of Essence of Xel'naga and the Protoss Purity of Form.But it's all screwed up now. These guy are not Gentle Xel'naga and they seem kind of well like big stupid brutes. Sort of Anti-Xel'naga. That kind of make sense considering Dark Voice must Hate and fear the Original Xel'naga.This would be his revenge. Jim said the Hybrids wear the Best of both races twisted together. I do not agree I would say they wear the most Negative of both races Twisted together into a Parody of the Xel'naga. So why so scared of Kerrigan? The Over minds Greatest creation? I think she Got the Original Xel'naga Plan in her DNA Purity of essence. I think Dark Voice Needs the Queen of Blades DEAD. She is his Silver Bullet ,His Kryptonite.
Kind of like the Dark Protoss energy was to OverMind's cerebrates.
Not that Blizzard would ever reuse a story element (did I type that with out laughing? NO.)
I think she will become Xel'naga 2.0 in the end a Zerg/Protoss/Human Hybrid. The only Creature in all creation that can Kill Dark Voice. Why the Terran essence when not part of the original recipe? Simple This time OverMind wanted to make Certain Dark Voice DIES! None of this higher better than you mercy crap. And the Experiment Recipe was already Corrupted by Dark Voice.
Kerrigan was Unique and PSI energy and DNA was Special. Could be she was some how Mentally PSI been Purity of Form. Remember as a child She was a Pacifist. She refused to do violence even when torched and resisted all control to make her. They had to Nearly kill her and alter her brain to make the near PSI God a Normal Ghost. Till then she refused to kill even a kitten. We know she was Psi Energy that the OverMind to Screw over Dark Voice and we Know it worked. Since Dark Voice Gloated in the Vision that She there only hope was dead.
She the Unique power that can defeat Dark Voice what is she ? What did OverMind Real create? What if just what he created what the Xel'Naga originally meant him to create. A Xel'Naga 2.0. Half mad with power and maybe in a Larva stage but a Xel'Naga.
If so in the course of HOTS she will Grow in Mutation Powers till she is Full Xel'Naga to face and Destroy Dark Voice.
Maybe she will use the device her self and absorb all that essence or maybe Tassadar "twilight messiah" and help her become Xel'Naga and finish off the transform.
Here a Scary thought what if she was created to be the first Female Xel'Naga and Tassadar/OverMind the Male and her mate. Maybe that how the Races Merg "naturally" as the original Xel'Naga intended. The Old fashioned way.
Now that would Piss off Jim.
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My hypothesis.
As Kerrigan is now human the Hybrids, lead by Duran, are able to replace her as the leader of the Zerg and begin attacking the Terrans and Protoss. Mensk makes a deal with Duran so that the Dominion worlds to be spared in exchange for helping the Hybrids. So while the Zerg are attacking non-Dominion worlds Mensk claims that his strategies are keeping the Dominion safe (this annoys Raynor).
During this time Kerrigan begins healing from the injuries the artefact caused her and as she becomes more Zerg she is better able to wrest control of the Zerg from the Hybrids. After building up her forces with Terran and Protoss help she attacks the Hybrids. Though this battle weakens the Zerg the Hybrids triumph and kill Kerrigan. In the next game Zeratul must unite the Protoss against the Hybrids and their weakened Zerg army. As the Zerg army is weaker than in the vision the Protoss now have a chance of beating it.
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I agree with a lot of what you say uanime5. But Dark Voice will never keep his word to Mensk. And Kerrigan was Mentioned in the third part.I forget wear read that (or to be more clear do not got the link.)But she will be in the third at least as a Cameo. Blizzard would not kill of that popular a NPC and risk hurting there Korean Market that loves the Blade Queen.(Same reason a Human form will not last.)
I could see Zeratul saving her azz and saying some think about her sins to the Protoss are not yet payed for and he has more work for her before he can let her die.
I think a colony will be about to be eaten by the Hybrids or the Zerg and Jim Raynor Will come to the rescue and It will look like they will all die including a buss load of Kids and there Swarm will chow down them. Some kid will be about to be eaten. And a Ghost will run out and say" I'm sorry Jim it's only way!" a Blade Wing will bust out of her back and impale absorb the Zerg.Kerrigan will transform.
And Queen of Blades will summon the swarm to her. Sacrificing Her humanity to save the Kid or some Equally over the top Noble act to redeem the Redeemer of the Zerg so she loses her humanity for some one else so it dose not look like she just doing it so she can get her powers back. She become some Sickly sweet Hero.
Just hope they keep the cannibalization.
Jim "Sarah DiD You EAT TERRANS! MY Fellow Humans!"
Kerrigan " Just the neo Nazi UED and Arcturus Mengsk and his men."
Jim" Gees Sorry Darlin, I was scared there for a moment. Michael Those Wear Mengsks Guys she was eating and a side of UED. Not Humans!! Jesus learn to tell the difference! I am looking stupid here!"
LOL
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I've been thinking about what they could do with this, and one idea I had that I haven't seen anyone mention is that Heart of the Swarm could actually be a prequel to Wings of Liberty. Yes they've said it's about kerrigan but in what way? The Zerg could have been trying to capture Kerrigan for a long time, and the final mission in heart of the swarm is where you actually do capture her. Everything else is leading up to that. The sequence of events that follows is basically Wings of Liberty.
Not saying this is how it's going to be, but I think it works better than any of the other ideas I've seen tossed around. It's much more easy to work with than the Zerg trying to get Kerrigan back after she's been rescued by Jim.
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This has probably been said a lot in the past few pages, but human Kerrigan will definitely still lead the swarm. She had the power to control Zerg before she became the Queen of Blades, and -definitely- has that power now. The device absorbed all of the Zerg energy from her, but I'm sure it left her enhanced "Class-12 Psionic lifeform" status intact.
As for the theory with the device, that sounds really, really solid, dragondeathlord. It does have a Zerg-charge to it now, I bet. I do agree that this isn't the end of the Artifact.
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Well I love to throw theorys out there and I am good at it but I do go of the deep end as often Wrong as Right. So I leave it to saner minds to decide witch are right and witch are nuts.
I think Kerrigan will lead the swarm but I am not buying She is fully human on a genetic Level (not with that Zerg hair and Zerg eyes, possibly a Xel'Naga there got to be some reason that the Dark Voice was scared of what OverMind created). I mean if she was Human she would not be the Queen of Blades lets all be honest.
That Was the Best Zerg Unit that there was.
In the Original Game you just walk her up and Tanks went Bye Bye.
And to use her on a Single Lone Marine....It was so much Over kill it was just pure Fun.
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In the title "Heart of the Swarm", the word "heart" could mean the central, essential part/character of the Zerg race (our protagonist). However, it could also mean that Zerg now has gained some "hearty" aspects like human, e.g. worrying about the prospect of their own race, developing friends and allies and sticking to a plan for a less dark future under the new leader (whoever that may be) instead of mindlessly slaughtering everything in their way.
I love the Queen of Blades throughout SCBW. But if the purged Sarah Kerrigan will lead the swarm, I fear that the Zerg would be much too on the bright side of the force. Man, aren't they fascinating because of their badass darkness?
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Just because the Zerg campaign was the enemy of the others in the SC1 campaign, It's obvious that Blizzard is using these story elements so that the Zerg could battle the larger threat of the Hybrids/Fallen One this time around. Anyone who looked at the storyline elements should have noticed that one.
Why else would they have gone thru the whole de-infestation of Kerrigan in the first place? Because the storyline simply would not work if Kerrigan and the Zerg had to face Raynor, Mengsk, the Protoss AND the forces of the hybrids/Fallen One. That would be far too much to handle, and would reduce the "scariness" and "power" of the Hybrids/Fallen One if you were able to fight off all those forces at the same time. Not to mention a "temporary alliance" with the Raynor and Protoss would not be realistic, considered Kerrigan screwed them over on that one in SC1.
With that said, I read somewhere (dont have a source, sorry) in a preview that HotS is going to be about Kerrigan rebuilding the Zerg empire as we discover her new motives.
On August 23 2010 06:00 firedodo wrote:
In the title "Heart of the Swarm", the word "heart" could mean the central, essential part/character of the Zerg race (our protagonist). However, it could also mean that Zerg now has gained some "hearty" aspects like human, e.g. worrying about the prospect of their own race, developing friends and allies and sticking to a plan for a less dark future under the new leader (whoever that may be) instead of mindlessly slaughtering everything in their way.
I love the Queen of Blades throughout SCBW. But if the purged Sarah Kerrigan will lead the swarm, I fear that the Zerg would be much too on the bright side of the force. Man, aren't they fascinating because of their badass darkness?
Who says the Zerg cant be badass without an infested leader? If anything losing the infestation could potentially give Kerrigan more power, as she is able to think for herself more clearly, and have others working for her (you know at least Raynor will be on her side).
You dont need to be evil to be badass, especailly when you are as evolved as she is. Just because she is de-infested does not mean she lost her evolution. You know Zerg are all about evolving anyway. Blizzard even said that everywehre you seen Tech in Wings of Liberty, you will see Evolution in HotS.
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I just finished the campaign, and haven't read through all of this yet, but I just gotta say....
Bitch be playin' Raynor like a fiddle. Hasn't he ever heard of "bros before ho's"?
I may elaborate after reading the rest of the thread.
edit: I just don't want the storyline to end up being "the three races were warring, but then they set aside their differences to battle a much larger threat." That's been done already, and I really enjoyed the dark feel of the Zerg as the terror of the universe.
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On August 05 2010 08:56 Hikari wrote:
Can still be kerrigan ("Kerrigan, you must retain control of your zerg and prevent the xelnaga from using it to annihilate the world!") - she can have a struggle of power vs some xelnaga lackey. Vs Terran she can always fight vs the dominion (help raynor kill mangsk?) and vs protoss the taldarim/any tribe that dedicate their life in killing zerg...
imho raynor will not kill mengsk anymore. He used his reserved mengsk-bullet on tychus and he wanted to kill mengsk because he "killed" kerrigan, but she's kind of alive again now so i don't think he'll kill him anymore. Especially the use of the mengsk-bullet seemed like a pretty clear sign to me, that he ends his hunt for revenge on mengsk.
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Mmm...just my 2c worth...
But if Kerrigan is infested, she would have Zerg and Terran strains...
Now if she were to somehow assimilate some protoss DNA...well now, then we'd have a being with Zerg, Terran AND Protoss DNA opening a can of whoopass.
I'd love to see those Stimmed Roachlots armed with gauss rifles and shields unburrowing behind the Dark Voice's garden shed for a spot of tea 
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