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[Spoilers] Heart of the Swarm: Main character?

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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 04 2010 04:26 GMT
#1
Now with Kerrigan being humanified and having no Overmind or zerg leader, I've been left wondering whos going to be the main character in heart of the swarm. Unless Blizzard does some dumb thing where they have to show "flashbacks" of Kerrigan becoming a zerg again, I've been forced to conclude that there's going to be a new character in Heart of the Swarm, much like how in Brood War you were a new cerebrate.

Obviously a human can't(read: shouldn't) be the one controlling the zerg. If the UED was still around and still enslaving the Overmind, that would've been a possibility but with the current state of the campaign I just don't see who's going to be the Jim Raynor of Heart of the Swarm.

Any thoughts?
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 04:33:48
August 04 2010 04:30 GMT
#2
Kerrigan will still be the leader of the zerg. She wasn't turned into a terran. She was merely balanced between zerg and human (whereas before she was much more zerg), probably even making her more powerful.

The proof of this, without going into spoilers about how the xelnaga work, is that Blizzard has explicitly said that the next story is about Kerrigan. We also know it's about the zerg. The connection is all too obvious.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 04 2010 04:31 GMT
#3
well that is the next game so i do image they will deal with the zerg, my guess is that another overmind will just pop up like it did last time, without kerrigan controlling them that would be my guess. It's likely just to revolve around kerrigan as the name is heart of the swarm which seems pretty obvious who that is. Kerrigan also didn't look fully human in the end so we do not know if shes unable to control the swarm or not.
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
August 04 2010 04:32 GMT
#4
I don't know... I'm pretty sure its still going to be kerrigan bec ause zerg has no heroes... Its a swarm of mindless units... and kerrigan.
Zombo Joe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada850 Posts
August 04 2010 04:34 GMT
#5
I'm betting the first few missions will be about Kerrigan trying to reclaim her uncontrolled broods. You'd imagine she would lose some control.
I am Terranfying.
agleed.agleed
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany110 Posts
August 04 2010 04:51 GMT
#6
kerrigan wasn't turned into human again, why would a zerg artefact do that? she was merely "purified", meaning that all the bad things (zerg infestation controlling her way of thinking) was cleansed while all the good parts stayed (psionic abilities among others, the hair obv.)
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 04 2010 04:55 GMT
#7
One thought that occurred to me is maybe Tychus will become an infected Terran. Raynor and co leave is body there (really what choice do they have) and then run into him later.

I doubt he'll be the main character though
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tgdm
Profile Joined August 2010
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 04:58:42
August 04 2010 04:58 GMT
#8
No one finds Valerian's knowledge of the artifacts and their effects on the zerg convenient?

p.s. it wasn't a zerg artifact they used to 'purge' her.

I'm leaning on Kerrigan still being mostly zerg. I think it was the original SC where there was no hero for the campaign mode (you were always hailed as the overmind). The zerg are always evolving, though, so I'm sure they'll think of something.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 05:08:18
August 04 2010 05:05 GMT
#9
On August 04 2010 13:58 tgdm wrote:
No one finds Valerian's knowledge of the artifacts and their effects on the zerg convenient?

p.s. it wasn't a zerg artifact they used to 'purge' her.

I'm leaning on Kerrigan still being mostly zerg. I think it was the original SC where there was no hero for the campaign mode (you were always hailed as the overmind). The zerg are always evolving, though, so I'm sure they'll think of something.


Valerian owns the Mobious foundation which seems to be led by Duran. Seems pretty obvious where his knowledge comes from imo.

Just to nitpick, in the first game you weren't actually the overmind but rather a cerebrate created for the sole reason of protecting the crystal Kerrigan was in. Once she was hatched you became her fav cerebrate and the only one to follow her. As the terran you were a commander and as protoss you were the new executor replacing Tassadar who was shamed for not killing terrans. More confusing as to what you are in BW since it seems Artanis becomes executor.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 04 2010 05:05 GMT
#10
On August 04 2010 13:58 tgdm wrote:
No one finds Valerian's knowledge of the artifacts and their effects on the zerg convenient?

p.s. it wasn't a zerg artifact they used to 'purge' her.

I'm leaning on Kerrigan still being mostly zerg. I think it was the original SC where there was no hero for the campaign mode (you were always hailed as the overmind). The zerg are always evolving, though, so I'm sure they'll think of something.


I attribute that to Dr. Narud (Duran) as his objective would be to help the Terran/Protoss defeat Kerrigan and kill her so the hybrids can take over the Zerg.

In the original SC you were either a commander, a cerebrate, or a protoss commander (whatever that title was).

In SC2 it seems kinda odd. You're sorta Jim Raynor but mostly not.
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Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 05:14:34
August 04 2010 05:14 GMT
#11
Major Spoilers. If you're in this forum at all, you really ought to expect spoilers, but warning! none the less.

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1) We aren't sure what happened to Tychus yet. We hear a gunshot, then the scene fades out, basically. But we don't know if or in what part of the body Jim shot him. For all we know, he shot the suit's antenna off in some action-hero fashion which shut down all the kill switch hardware and caused the suit to unlock while simultaneously giving Mengsk the impression that he was killed and failed his mission.

2) While Kerrigan is now significantly less Zerged, don't forget that she was among the most powerful telepaths in the human race. I wouldn't be surprised if she still has the ability to control the swarm. Some scenes depict her treating them like children or pets and showing them affection, which is even returned to a mild degree (I refer to the petting of Hydralisks in cinematics and comforting the one that was dying).

3) It's clear that Dr. Narud and the Moebius foundation were not exactly what they were portrayed to be. The obvious connection between the names Narud and Duran is only the chunkiest evidence. We also have questions from this thread, such as how did they know about the Xel'naga artifacts at all, let alone what those artifacts might do to the Zerg or Kerrigan? How might this figure in to the Xel'naga's master plan? The future that Zeratul saw was only one slice of the space-time continuum, one dependent upon Raynor's Raiders killing Kerrigan. It's entirely possible that the force behind the scenes (The Fallen One?) possesses prescience as well, and has worked the latest developments into its plans as well.
What is a dickfour?
Gedrah
Profile Joined February 2010
465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 05:14:20
August 04 2010 05:14 GMT
#12
ffff double post.
What is a dickfour?
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
August 04 2010 05:27 GMT
#13
On August 04 2010 14:14 Gedrah wrote:
1) We aren't sure what happened to Tychus yet. We hear a gunshot, then the scene fades out, basically. But we don't know if or in what part of the body Jim shot him. For all we know, he shot the suit's antenna off in some action-hero fashion which shut down all the kill switch hardware and caused the suit to unlock while simultaneously giving Mengsk the impression that he was killed and failed his mission.


If I remember correctly once you beat the campaign it says that Tychus is dead.
tgdm
Profile Joined August 2010
12 Posts
August 04 2010 05:40 GMT
#14
Tychus is in full god damn armor with his helmet open. Where do you think he was shot? His foot?

If Raynor had found a way to turn off the kill switch in Tychus' armor, that's something else. I could understand it not being included in the plot of WOL as far as the player experiences it, and it would justify the little act they put on prior to the gunshot. . . But Raynor blocks Tychus' shot with his own suit. The chance of putting on a show for Mengsk is unlikely. Their little brawl on the ship is explained by Tosh. Tychus is just building himself up to do something he didn't want to do.

Kerrigan's humanity definitely isn't full restored, I think we can all agree on that.

But uhhh Samir is black and Emil is white so I don't think I see where you're going with that last bit. As far as I know, Samir is in fact responsible for creating the hybrids and planting them all over the place to give them time to 'awaken,' whatever that was supposed to mean. We saw the hybrids controlling protoss and zerg units in addition to having a few of their own special flavor. The protoss that followed the Hybrids seemed to worship them as new gods, though, so maybe this suggests the hybrids are more adept at controlling zerg but retaining the intelligence of the protoss.

Narud's research is interesting and some of his audio clips when you're preventing Kerrigan from finding the research is interesting. What I kept thinking about on that mission was "Wait, Kerrigan is running research and has labs set up?" I know that she was mostly just looking for the rest of the artifact, but her purpose in doing so isn't too clear. Why are all these protoss-protected relics separated in the first place? If their universal enemy is the zerg, why not just keep those bad boys up and running?

I'm really expecting to see either a joined effort by Raynor and his crew to help Kerrigan control the zerg to stop attacking occupied planets and maybe moving them to their own part of the universe -OR- a hybrid crew leading the zerg.
MIKE HUTN EASY
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada35 Posts
August 04 2010 05:43 GMT
#15

i firmly believe its gonna be Duran as he wasn't in this campaign and at the end turned out to be the real 'villian', or zerg ruler, however he may be the main bad guy as you fight the hybrids (duran) with the swarm (someother character)
I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and im all out of......... ah forget it
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
August 04 2010 05:48 GMT
#16
obviously its gonna be jim and kerrigan;s baby as the main character. super baby!.

haha but seriously, i think she still a little bit zerg with the hair. and i think its going to be the downfall of the dominion when she gets revenge and help zeratul fight off the xelnaga.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
August 04 2010 05:54 GMT
#17
On August 04 2010 14:40 tgdm wrote:

But uhhh Samir is black and Emil is white so I don't think I see where you're going with that last bit. As far as I know, Samir is in fact responsible for creating the hybrids and planting them all over the place to give them time to 'awaken,' whatever that was supposed to mean. We saw the hybrids controlling protoss and zerg units in addition to having a few of their own special flavor. The protoss that followed the Hybrids seemed to worship them as new gods, though, so maybe this suggests the hybrids are more adept at controlling zerg but retaining the intelligence of the protoss.
.


Ummm... if Duran is a Xel Naga, I'm pretty sure he can look whatever color he wants to the terrans =\.
tgdm
Profile Joined August 2010
12 Posts
August 04 2010 06:12 GMT
#18
Samir Duran wears a cap that was used in a war in real life back here on Earth. He then becomes 'Infested Duran' and he even has a little dance with Zeratul. He claims to have been around for several millennia. I'm not so sure I can believe the idea of him being XN since he just seems to be a catalyst for the terrans and zerg with very little care for the protoss.

The overmind was happy to be able to infest Kerrigan. The mission where you get to sense the residual memories of the overmind tell us that it created Kerrigan as an act of defiance to its original creation/purpose. Samir said that Kerrigan was too simple minded for what he was doing, but that her becoming infested greatly expedited things for him.

Samir wanted hybrids to come to be. If he is the hinted-at fallen XN it would explain a few things... but leave a lot more questions in its wake. Like why go through all the cloak and dagger routine to set up secret labs? Why not just create the hybrids in some remote part of the universe and then bust into the fray? Why pose as a terran rather than UED, even? Why not kill Kerrigan on his own if that was supposed to help the hybrids overthrow Kerrigan (assuming that by de-zergifying her wasn't the same as killing the queen of blades)?
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
August 04 2010 06:12 GMT
#19
AHH WHAT THE ********************
I went into the spoiler thread thinking that no one knows what happens in HotS, now knowing Blizzard released it, I read 1st post and the one above me, and it killed my StarCraft 2 experience. I'm just an idiot... F************
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
Dexy205
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom12 Posts
August 04 2010 06:20 GMT
#20
SPOLIER

Errr DURAN is still infected and could take over the swarm as there is no Kerrigan!!!! Wonder where he went...? He set up on the remote moons and the secret mission is kinda one.
"Sir we're surrounded." "Good we can attack in every direction!!"
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