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sup3rchan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada127 Posts
August 04 2010 06:30 GMT
#21
If you beat the single player campaign, and you click single player in bnet without starting the game, there is a summary of the campaign by Blizzard. It clearly states that Tychus Findlay is dead, and that Sarah Kerrigan has been restored "to her original human form". These are facts, though open to interpretation.
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
August 04 2010 07:03 GMT
#22
I have a feeling it could be a prequel (but after reading somethings, it seems doubtful and yes, Kerrigan should have control still over the zerg)
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tgdm
Profile Joined August 2010
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 07:14:59
August 04 2010 07:13 GMT
#23
"infected" not infected
^-- about Samir Duran

as far as kerrigan being back to her human form, that just means she looks and acts human again. No more hive mentality. The confederacy was the one that started the experiments on ghosts + zerg (and thus created psi emitters). There's definitely grounds for control there.
Carthaginian
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia3 Posts
August 04 2010 07:27 GMT
#24
Remember, Kerrigan was involved in the confederate experiment to use ghosts to control the Zerg. In fact, if i remember correctly, she was the ghost that was most adept at it in all the experiments they did. Then she got infested and it massively boosted her powers, so even though she is uninfested now (and lets assume a complete return to her level of power pre-infestation, even though her zerg hair seems to indicate retention of much of her power), she would have at least a nominal command of Zerg in her vicinity, should she want to. But I would say most likely the first few missions in HotS will definitely be her working to regain her control over the swarm and hunting down rouge cerebrates or whatnot that have tried to become the top dog in her absence.

On an unrelated note, did anyone else sort of fell that Matt Horner was supposed to be the player for the original game?
WyghtWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Israel145 Posts
August 04 2010 07:49 GMT
#25
On August 04 2010 16:27 Carthaginian wrote:
Remember, Kerrigan was involved in the confederate experiment to use ghosts to control the Zerg. In fact, if i remember correctly, she was the ghost that was most adept at it in all the experiments they did. Then she got infested and it massively boosted her powers, so even though she is uninfested now (and lets assume a complete return to her level of power pre-infestation, even though her zerg hair seems to indicate retention of much of her power), she would have at least a nominal command of Zerg in her vicinity, should she want to. But I would say most likely the first few missions in HotS will definitely be her working to regain her control over the swarm and hunting down rouge cerebrates or whatnot that have tried to become the top dog in her absence.



As far as I noticed, Kerrigan didn't create new cerebrates.
She was too paranoid of what happened during the broodwars with Xazs(WTF was his name spelled like anyway?)and him trying to create a new overmind by fusing several cerebrates together, so she killed off all the ones that were still around.

the reason why I think she didn't make new ones was the same reason the overmind gave her, mostly, free reign to do as she pleases.

A strategist is only as good as the room for manuevaring he has.
That's why the swarm attacked everything in sight, even itself when the over mind was lost.
it lost it's brain, so it was reduced to pure instinct.

also, it's stated somewhere that kerrigan mutated the queens to what they are now to allow her easier dominance over the zerg. sure, the queens probably have free will to a degree, but they can't do anything that might endanger their queen(like creating a new overmind).
it might have something to do with bits of kerrigan being mixed in with the queens DNA(the huge claws the queens use to attack the ground)

Yeah. I'm thinking the zerg will be controlled by the now half human kerrigan.
why half?
during the final scene where jim found her in the ash, her eyes were still the same as when she was infested(although they didn't glow, and you could see her old eyes as well under the gold).
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splcer
Profile Joined October 2009
United States166 Posts
August 04 2010 07:51 GMT
#26
the HYBRID right? that would make sense even though i think its extremely lame
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
August 04 2010 08:36 GMT
#27
1) Tychus becomes infested. He is the King of Blades.
2) Kerrigan is not fully human. Therefore she still has some power over the snerg.
3) Narud = Duran. He had vitiligo.

These are my thoughts.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 04 2010 16:42 GMT
#28
Kerrigan retained some characteristics of the zergification (weird tentacle-hair, eyes), but lost others (chitinous plating all over the place, weird high-heel feet). Interesting...

The one question I have is, what if the artifact didn't alter Kerrigan's powers, but rather her mindset? Remember when she met Zeratul on the prophecy world, she seemed to be bored/ready to accept the inevitable doom coming for them. That seems to be a zerg mentality, so what if the dezergification not only returned part of her human body, but also her human mind? If so, wouldn't the human Kerrigan want to use the army she still controls to fight the return of the Dark One?

Just a thought. Perhaps Heart of the Swarm could have you controlling Kerrigan - as she fought alongside Raynor. Perhaps fighting more Protoss that worship the hybrids/more Tal'darim (why did they guard the only dezergification machine in the galaxy and NOT use it...?) Perhaps taking some time out to give Mengsk a serious smackdown for what he did? There are definite possibilities there.

I'm still sad about Tychus' passing, though. Man was the most badass comic relief we've had in a while.
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Camila_br
Profile Joined April 2004
Brazil529 Posts
August 04 2010 17:08 GMT
#29
Probably Kerrigan lost most of her control over the zerg, Raynor tells her about the hybrids, and she tries to take control over the zergs again to fight the hybrids.
I'm already picturing the first mission of HotS: Kerrigan will try to control frenzied drones, overlords and zerglings. And the next few missions she will try to get other units to her side as well.
Kerrigan's enemies will be the terran's dominion, frenzied zergs without control, protoss who didn't believe Zeratul's premonition, and the hybrids.
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JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 04 2010 17:23 GMT
#30
So is Heart of the Swarm not a parallel storyline? Anyone noticed anything about Kerrigan's hair? No way thats just human!
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 18:09:51
August 04 2010 18:08 GMT
#31
On August 04 2010 13:30 On_Slaught wrote:
Kerrigan will still be the leader of the zerg. She wasn't turned into a terran. She was merely balanced between zerg and human (whereas before she was much more zerg), probably even making her more powerful.

The proof of this, without going into spoilers about how the xelnaga work, is that Blizzard has explicitly said that the next story is about Kerrigan. We also know it's about the zerg. The connection is all too obvious.

Further evidence lies in the Prophecy Missions. The Zerg, should Kerrigan have died, would be used as tool for the Voice of the Void combined with his hybrids to destroy. Given the way the campaign ended I would say the next two campaigns will revolve around Kerrigan gathering her strength in her new form so she can remain in control over the swarm instead of the Voice, and finally in the Protoss campaign some kind of final confrontation, much like the level In Utter Darkness, only this time Kerrigan and some if not all of the swarm is on your side plus it will be a full campaign. I'm sure there will be plenty of drama in both campaigns about everyone coming to grips with allying themselves with Kerrigan and by extension the Zerg but they'll all eventually get over it and win through in the end but only just barely.
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Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
August 04 2010 18:13 GMT
#32
On August 04 2010 17:36 GenesisX wrote:
1) Tychus becomes infested. He is the King of Blades.
2) Kerrigan is not fully human. Therefore she still has some power over the snerg.
3) Narud = Duran. He had vitiligo.

These are my thoughts.

Or maybe Jack of Blades becomes the new leader of the Swarm.
Psychopomp
Profile Joined April 2010
United States237 Posts
August 04 2010 18:20 GMT
#33
On August 04 2010 14:05 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 13:58 tgdm wrote:
No one finds Valerian's knowledge of the artifacts and their effects on the zerg convenient?

p.s. it wasn't a zerg artifact they used to 'purge' her.

I'm leaning on Kerrigan still being mostly zerg. I think it was the original SC where there was no hero for the campaign mode (you were always hailed as the overmind). The zerg are always evolving, though, so I'm sure they'll think of something.


Valerian owns the Mobious foundation which seems to be led by Duran. Seems pretty obvious where his knowledge comes from imo.

Just to nitpick, in the first game you weren't actually the overmind but rather a cerebrate created for the sole reason of protecting the crystal Kerrigan was in. Once she was hatched you became her fav cerebrate and the only one to follow her. As the terran you were a commander and as protoss you were the new executor replacing Tassadar who was shamed for not killing terrans. More confusing as to what you are in BW since it seems Artanis becomes executor.


I think they just dropped the plot device altogether after SC1.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
August 04 2010 18:56 GMT
#34
On August 05 2010 03:13 Kezzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 17:36 GenesisX wrote:
1) Tychus becomes infested. He is the King of Blades.
2) Kerrigan is not fully human. Therefore she still has some power over the snerg.
3) Narud = Duran. He had vitiligo.

These are my thoughts.

Or maybe Jack of Blades becomes the new leader of the Swarm.


Valerian gets infested???
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
August 04 2010 19:04 GMT
#35
On August 04 2010 14:05 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 13:58 tgdm wrote:
No one finds Valerian's knowledge of the artifacts and their effects on the zerg convenient?

p.s. it wasn't a zerg artifact they used to 'purge' her.

I'm leaning on Kerrigan still being mostly zerg. I think it was the original SC where there was no hero for the campaign mode (you were always hailed as the overmind). The zerg are always evolving, though, so I'm sure they'll think of something.


I attribute that to Dr. Narud (Duran) as his objective would be to help the Terran/Protoss defeat Kerrigan and kill her so the hybrids can take over the Zerg.

In the original SC you were either a commander, a cerebrate, or a protoss commander (whatever that title was).

In SC2 it seems kinda odd. You're sorta Jim Raynor but mostly not.


SC1 you were

Terran Magistrate
Cerebrate (Killed by Tassadar)
Artanis

Selendis
UED Captain (killed by Kerrigan)
Cerebrate (killed by Kerrigan)
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
August 04 2010 19:10 GMT
#36
I wouldn't be surprised if Kerrigan still has control of the Zerg but uses them for a good purpose (Like in not trying to take over the universe, lol.).

Also, Duran will probably show up in the next game. But we can't know what Blizzard has planned. It's like 1.5 years until they will release the HotS-expansion(which im really looking forward to )
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Spaceninja
Profile Joined April 2010
United States211 Posts
August 04 2010 19:44 GMT
#37
DURAN IS COMING BACK BABY!
Haters Gonna Hate.
lazerwizz
Profile Joined July 2010
Hungary53 Posts
August 04 2010 19:45 GMT
#38
You guys just lack immagination.
INFESTED NOVA WILL LEAD THE ZERG IN HOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I called it first.
"Apparently a product doesn't need to be perfect just good enough."
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 04 2010 19:48 GMT
#39
I've decided that this is going to be like the vanilla starcraft campaign. There's going to be a new infested someone that was made/infested by Duran/Dark One and they are going to try to wreck havoc across everything. Than they will, just like at the end of the zerg campaign in original SC the zerg invaded Aiur. Than the protoss will save everyone (again)
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
August 04 2010 19:59 GMT
#40
The Overmind didn't really have much of a free will, and he knew what was coming. He created Kerrigan in order to lead the Zerg after his death. That much is clear, from the info we gathered from Zeratul. Without a leader the Zerg would have been used to destroy, well, everything. We also know that Raynor had her live in his hands, he decided to let her live.

I guess Heart of the Swarm will be about "infested but not so much" Kerrigan slowly regaining control of the Zerg swarm. She will probably also have to deal with Mengsk. We will also get bits and peaces about who the Xel'Naga are, what their plan was and how it all went wrong (or did it?).

Legacy of the Void will probably with the aftermath and the fight against whoever we discover as the mastermind of the (possible) destruction of everything. Probably also a lot more background about the Protoss culture with more info on Tassadar and flashbacks into Protoss history. Of course the Terrans will play a part in some way or another.

Oh yeah, also a few "WTF" moments by Blizzard mixed in like the OMFG-WOW video of Ghost-Kerrigan beeing overrun by the Zerg.
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