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When I play terran it isn't a challenge for me. I can beat the insane ai without any problem "straight up" by which I mean not proxying, or exploiting it in some way. I'm definitely better at terran than other races, but I have been random plat into the 500 pt range in beta, and as solely zerg.
But I just failed 3 times in a row to beat the terran insane AI as zerg. Without fail, it will push my shit in. I was playing on that 1v1 Jungle map that isn't in the ladder rotation (probably because it's fucking terrible)
It opens with a marine/marauder push, if I went 1 base roach, I would lose. if I went for an early expand, I would lose even faster. if I went 16 hatch into 2 queen mass speedling I would beat the first push, but then the next one comes when I try to drone and tech to roaches
I'm kind of ashamed to admit that despite being a mid plat zerg player I can't beat the terran AI
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So what you're saying is that Terran always wins? Surprising...
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i beat it by fast expanding, just massing speedlings for its first push and fighting on creep, if it goes for a second timing push without tanks (the fast one) you will need banelings. if you beat that its smooth sailing from there.
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1v1 is easy to allin rush them.
I just go zerg and 7 pool then bring drones then abuse ai and win.
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On August 02 2010 01:39 Repok wrote:
1v1 is easy to allin rush them.
I just go zerg and 7 pool then bring drones then abuse ai and win.
or 6 pool and you won't even need to bring drones.
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Played one game really fast to see how hard it was since I was like wtf sure terran sucks but its a comp, this here shows you just how easy it was =)
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Enjoy!
Next time vs 2 maybe =)
Edit: Is an all in 2 base speedling build that beats anything really 
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On August 02 2010 01:39 Repok wrote:
1v1 is easy to allin rush them.
I just go zerg and 7 pool then bring drones then abuse ai and win.
Yeah but I'm specifically saying if you don't do that sort of thing, can your production match his marine + marauder?
The AI doesn't really deviate between races, it's given extra resources and it rushes you with tier1/1.5 units, but the terran one is so much stronger than the other two.
On August 02 2010 02:02 Yttrasil wrote:Played one game really fast to see how hard it was since I was like wtf sure terran sucks but its a comp, this here shows you just how easy it was =) [url blocked] Enjoy! Next time vs 2 maybe =) Edit: Is an all in 2 base speedling build that beats anything really
Did you a move into his base after you beat the first rush? Again, that's not particularly hard either I noted I could do that, it's when I try to keep up production with his it becomes a challenge
Although if you 1v2 insane terrans I would probably be impressed. I did that achieve as tvz and it was no harder than a single zerg insane comp
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Yes I did, the whole point of that strat, you have alot of units after his push fails. Trying generally I'm to lazy to do now =)
Just tried vs 2, failed big time... think it can work though if ur lucky and add 2 spine crawlers or so.
Edit: It speaks for itself that a 1 base roach would loose no matter what vs such an opponent... so figured this was less stupid
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That's cuz insane AI is a baller and gets more money than you and spends it. DUH.
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well if u already know what strat they're going to use u can adapt. maybe make a shit load of spine crawler + whore drone + expand
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I did the achievement to beat the insane AI in under 5 minutes Z v T with T being the AI. 6 pooled him, computer died immediately.
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ive not really had any problems with it as zerg, i just fast expand (14 pool 16 hatch) get a gas on 15 and then get zergling speed. i only get 1 queen and use the minerals i would have used on another queen to get a roach warren and just pump drones/lings until its finished. then i just move the lings away from my base (to get a good flank) and then pump roaches. after i hold off the first attack i tech to lair and pump drones then hydras. after that just expand around 60 - 70 and your fine. As long as you keep the ai from expanding its pretty easy
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6pool on the lava-map they had in beta which sucked ballz
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You know their strat and you still cant beat it? THEN my friend, u shud play alot more starcraft!
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I can't beat the insane AI PvP, No matter what I do.
And I have yet to encounter the AI using the same strat more than once, it's always different (one time I even got owned by Hallucination during the first push!).
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1v1 seems doable, but 2v2 or 3v3 is simply impossible without shared bases, siege tanks, and cannons.
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As a protoss :
10pylone
10forge
10 cannon rush (you can drone up before the 1st cannon)
When the ia is in medium you can build the pylone where you want. Vs insane you can't be very close or we will put out drones (and do nothing else so you can win anyways but it's harder)
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1v1 is decently challenging without cheese.
If you are doing the 1v2 Achievement straight up though, it's probably impossible if both AI's are Terran. Even if you are Terran yourself you will eventually run out of resources due to turtling while they take the whole map and your tanks will slowly die.
Even with the other matchups straight up, the 1v2 Insane is probably impossible unless you are Terran yourself against non-Terran AI's.
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On August 19 2010 03:52 rAize- wrote:
You know their strat and you still cant beat it? THEN my friend, u shud play alot more starcraft!
Insane A.I. gets 7 minerals(42 on mule) and 6 gas per delivery, thus the A.I. can build everything faster.
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its called insane for a reason.
do not feel bad for not being able to beat it, that at least should be said.
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