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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
September 09 2010 23:03 GMT
#261
the campaign was great, not A(+) material but good. i think iti s better than wc3 campaign which was already epic so i dunno what all the fuss is about^^
aimed at 13 year olds? no, i think they were trying to aim at the people who never played sc before, so that those guys can follow the storyline well.
teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 23:10:43
September 09 2010 23:08 GMT
#262
The story was so flat and boring, those characters especially. No mystery to them.
It feels like they just copied some bad hollywood stuff, you know most movies they produce have the same kind of one-dimensionality and flatness.
Watching these characters almost makes me freeze because they are so soulless.

In general: Every male having ridiculous amounts of muscles while all woman were standard slim-pretty-type.
Jim Raynor presented as the "tragic hero" who has to make harsh decisions but remains totally boring all over the storyline. Cliche.
His prison bro beeing the stupid pugnacious guy getting exited for big weapons... yeah boring cliche type.
Matt Horner... does he even have a soul? I don't think so.
The Mechanic Nerd... big times cliche. Even worse: The scientific nerd.
Even KERRIGAN! She just turned out to be the arrogant wannabe serene-pugnacious whatsoever thing, also very bloodless presentation.
List to be continued with any character appearing in the whole story line.

Wow those characters were so so boring. Incredible. Warcraft 3 characters were just 20x cooler. There wasn't much information about them, but they still were kinda epic. Arthas didn't even have to speak, he just had to enter the room in his incredibly bad ass death knight armor and stab his father to explain everything about him.
But they found the right scale to everything. Epicness doesn't increase by just giving a badass armor to everyone and making them have 150kg 0% fat super muscles.

This amount of cliche is nice to present to let's say 8 yrs old children. If they grow older, they notice that it's just bloodless cliche and will get bored over it.
When they were introduced, he made a witticism, hoping to be liked. She laughed extremely hard, hoping to be liked. Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead, with the very same twist to their faces.
lardlord
Profile Joined July 2010
United States22 Posts
September 09 2010 23:42 GMT
#263
Spoiler alert!!
Sc1 story definitely had me crying more than I'd like to admit. You guys cant tell me that you didnt shed a few tears when Zasz was slain. :'( ... i can't go on. I'm sorry. i have to go.
kariido
Profile Joined December 2007
Saudi Arabia179 Posts
September 10 2010 00:42 GMT
#264
Blizzard should take notice of this thread and reinvision what the storyline for SC2 is.

In short, it did feel childish and unpolished. I much preferred BW's storyline and structure to that of WoL.
http://campaignforliberty.org/
Night1989
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany19 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 08:03:43
September 11 2010 07:55 GMT
#265
@ Aylear It's not untipically that blizzard is paying the wrong people for their stories. I just don't like it if everybody is flaming about a story which is acutally bad but never wrote a story on their own (the next step would to write a story that was published) Since i am a storywriter... eh since i'm 10 ^^ i can agree that the story is totally dumbass. The mainconcept was good, even the ending the author (i don't know his name lol) just fucking failed epic. The whole problem is that you don't get the point why you are doing the missions. Guess it's hard to fulfill blizzards requirements. It could possible be that the author(s) were told to write a very clichefull story.

@dukethegold Yep, and i am one author of one fanfiction about the continuing of bw. But i don't agree that there are many ff which are good. The major stories sucks ass cause they are written by 16 y old teenagers which love a game to much. Sometimes they don't even really know the sc +bw stories.
In my opinion the problem was a lack of depth in storytelling. Would have been an awesome story just with a lil rewriting and... oh yeah for sure other dialogues xD
As a child i was... yeah i was a fan of the sc story. I read it once again... before sc2 was released and i ahve to say... This story isn't great at all, too. I think it was so epic for me cause i just added so much details which were wrong. Same tip for you. Fill the lack of story in sc2 on your own. use your head.
To sum up, i never thought that the story of sc2 would be great. I guess 70% of the people who buyed this game are not really interested in the story. Just multiplayer whoring. yeah sad but true. And if you ask me if there should anyone write the next LotR part i would say no. Just because it would fail so hard.
@Aylear i rofl hard at your sum up :D
mfg
btw dont blame me for my fucked up english, i'm neither english nor american
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iloyi
Profile Joined July 2010
12 Posts
September 12 2010 14:54 GMT
#266
On September 10 2010 08:03 r3d33m3r wrote:
no, i think they were trying to aim at the people who never played sc before, so that those guys can follow the storyline well.

Isn't SC aimed at teens and new players too, at the time it was released? In fact, the mystery, twist, and depth in SC, which was slowly unfolded during the storytelling, made SC epic.

On September 11 2010 16:55 Night1989 wrote:
In my opinion the problem was a lack of depth in storytelling. Would have been an awesome story just with a lil rewriting and... oh yeah for sure other dialogues xD

I agree. I saw potential in SC2 WoL storyline but Blizzard just wasted it.
vonterribad
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia50 Posts
September 12 2010 17:05 GMT
#267
[B]
Matt Horner... does he even have a soul? I don't think so.


That made me chuckle.

I do agree blizzard could of stepped it up a notch; the opening scenes I felt were actually pretty strong and created a create sense of interest in the world (the whole space cowboy western type feel).

It definitely started to go down towards the end; that was when so much of the dialogue was terribly cliche. Of course none of the characters really had any arc to them at all, except maybe 1 (dont want to spoil anything).

Malabyte
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway75 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 17:19:54
September 12 2010 17:18 GMT
#268
I agree with the OP on some things. At times, I sort of felt that Raynor was this stupid hillbillie with not intellectual thought process whatsoever. He's gonna save the universe on a gut feeling, for instance. Also, too often we see socalled intellectualism protrayed like Geeks who just talk ridiculously technically, they're not necessarily intelligent. Reminds me of The Big Bang Theory, where none of the guys show any major signs of an actual superior intelligence. They're just physics-enthusiasts.

We see it time and again, even in The Day the Earth Stood Still, where the intellectual reasoning of Klaatu (Keanu Reeves) clearly shows that the movie was made by averagely intelligent (if not less-than-average) humans. No disrespect to Keanu though, he's just getting paid for a role.
"I came, I saw and I got the heck outta there."
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
September 12 2010 17:21 GMT
#269
zeratuls' dialogue was so cliche i could of cried
cmos543
Profile Joined October 2008
220 Posts
September 12 2010 17:41 GMT
#270
TBH the vast majority of games are easy. I played Dragon age origins first run through on the highest difficulty without dieing but a few times. Name me a game that isn't easy.
You shall not misuse your screen name by using anonymity to sin
insult
Profile Joined August 2008
59 Posts
September 12 2010 18:15 GMT
#271
On September 13 2010 02:41 cmos543 wrote:
TBH the vast majority of games are easy. I played Dragon age origins first run through on the highest difficulty without dieing but a few times. Name me a game that isn't easy.


ADOM
Xeris: "Think of Haypro for example (this is purely speculative about his actual mindset/decisionmaking): he could probably win a majority of the weekly cups on EU/NA"
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 18:39:29
September 12 2010 18:35 GMT
#272
On September 13 2010 02:41 cmos543 wrote:
TBH the vast majority of games are easy. I played Dragon age origins first run through on the highest difficulty without dieing but a few times. Name me a game that isn't easy.

ye i believe you.
and i also invented the chair.
Superdog
Profile Joined September 2010
10 Posts
September 12 2010 18:39 GMT
#273
Spending levels collecting artifacts just felt too much like a video game plot.
cmos543
Profile Joined October 2008
220 Posts
September 12 2010 20:00 GMT
#274
On September 13 2010 03:35 FindingPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 02:41 cmos543 wrote:
TBH the vast majority of games are easy. I played Dragon age origins first run through on the highest difficulty without dieing but a few times. Name me a game that isn't easy.

ye i believe you.
and i also invented the chair.


I beat the entire campaign of awakenings dieing only once to the two dragons boss on the highest difficulty. I didn't even have but one member of my party down in the final boss fight, and I didn't even realize that it was the final boss fight so my party wasn't even optimized. This was after creating a new awakenings only character so its not like i was high leveled or anything maybe 28 on my main character. Name me a game thats not easy that I would actually play.
You shall not misuse your screen name by using anonymity to sin
cmos543
Profile Joined October 2008
220 Posts
September 12 2010 20:12 GMT
#275
In Fact Sc2 can be very difficult on brutal, just don't do research or upgrade your units if you are looking for a challenge. I dare any one of you to beat all in vs air units without upgraded gols, vikings, or the mind control tower. I doubt you can.
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escobari
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland192 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 20:16:13
September 12 2010 20:12 GMT
#276
I thought exactly same - or think the whole script was written by some 12y old kid. I mean first of all you cant be "broken" boozer and same time fly around galaxy fighting shit and caring about shit. Second, is this "arnold action hero" type charcarter only thing they could come up? And the ending was just absolutely horrible horrible, just a cliche and cheesy too. Realism about same level as raynor growing wings and flying to the moon.

Oh and they didn't even get the fox news parody right. (where they all would just admire the premier)
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
September 12 2010 20:13 GMT
#277
On September 13 2010 02:41 cmos543 wrote:
TBH the vast majority of games are easy. I played Dragon age origins first run through on the highest difficulty without dieing but a few times. Name me a game that isn't easy.



Why would we name a game that is not easy? What is this a response towards? a games difficulty is vastly dependant on how people approach it and on what difficulty settings. I for instance played dragon age origins and awakening on NORMAL difficulty. Not because i wanted a hard game to beat but because i wanted to enjoy the story they intended to tell at a leisurely pace.

"Mudkip"
cmos543
Profile Joined October 2008
220 Posts
September 12 2010 20:52 GMT
#278
On September 13 2010 05:13 Madkipz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2010 02:41 cmos543 wrote:
TBH the vast majority of games are easy. I played Dragon age origins first run through on the highest difficulty without dieing but a few times. Name me a game that isn't easy.



Why would we name a game that is not easy? What is this a response towards? a games difficulty is vastly dependant on how people approach it and on what difficulty settings. I for instance played dragon age origins and awakening on NORMAL difficulty. Not because i wanted a hard game to beat but because i wanted to enjoy the story they intended to tell at a leisurely pace.



Directed towards posts at the beginning of the thread saying game was to easy. Dragon age is so easy even on the hardest difficulty, that was my point. If they are saying game is easy, what games are they comparing it to?
You shall not misuse your screen name by using anonymity to sin
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-12 21:34:09
September 12 2010 20:58 GMT
#279
On September 10 2010 08:42 lardlord wrote:
You guys cant tell me that you didnt shed a few tears when Zasz was slain. :'( ... i can't go on. I'm sorry. i have to go.


Nobody else found this to be humorous? It's OK, Kerrigan visits Zasz's grave every once in a while.

Edit:
More to the topic. As most people would agree, the story was, in fact, garbage.

There was no room for any prophecy. A ridiculously lazy plot device. It makes things happen because they have to happen according to some prophecy. Reasoning behind character actions become non existent.

The artifact should not have existed. Another lazy plot device. We already had several artifact based sub-plots in SC/BW, except SC/BW did not hinge its ENTIRE plot on an artifact that can destroy everything.

The villains were as boring as they get. Mengsk is disliked by the Dominion citizens because... I don't know, he raised the taxes too high, or something. So clearly he is a bad guy, that doesn't actually do anything. Oh, he sent Tychus to chill with Jim (a bunch of rebells without much of a military force) because he supposedly would have a better chance to assassinate Kerrigan that way. Mind you Mengsk had no idea about the artifact, or of the fact that his son would take half of his fleet for a spin with Jim. Absolutely brilliant plan. Kerrigan, meanwhile, attacks stuff. For no reason... oh wait, to find the artifact so it would not be used against her. It's like 3 year olds fighting over a toy. A toy, the existence of which was found out at the same time by everybody. That's it. Also, there's another bad guy that wants to destroy the universe. Because that's evil. Oh, and Overmind is a good guy, apparently. What a plot twist!!! Somebody on TL has already switched the names of SC2 characters with War3 characters, and ended up with War3 plot.

Useless subplots. Why introduce subplots, the elements of which are never going to recur ever again? Pointless.

Terrible script/dialog. This has been covered many times. The characters are puppets that are told to read the script.

An infinite amount of cliches, and overall stupid stuff. Kerrigan gets caught on camera among billions of zerg, among dozens of planets? Wait, isn't she on Char? Why are the reporters referring to her as the Queen of Blades? What, is she frequently on the cover of a celebrity magazine? Why does Matt have to order the hyper jump (from an atmosphere, even in the world of sci-fi that's ridiculous) of his ship at a specific time? Not like he waits for something specific, just looking at his watch. Nit-picking, but just dumb moments like that. The marine intro was never meant to be part of the story, they just decided to reuse the cinematic and create a bad subplot around it.

Garbage. Take an English student for a summer job, pay him minimum wage, get a script that's worth hundreds of times more. Go online, hold a contest to write some fan-fic. Give the winner $100, get a script worth hundreds of times more.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
September 12 2010 22:50 GMT
#280
I definitely have that feeling too. The feel and execution was very disappointing compared to the predecessors. I came out of this really not caring about any of the characters, including the main ones. And thats with me trying really hard to like it , being an sc fanatic. I can imagine someone casually checking starcraft out probably would forget most of the characters names or just stop halfway through.

I could be biased though, since I was younger when sc1 came out,so maybe I was less picky. Side characters like Aldaris, Edmund duke etc were so much more memorable. Simple characters but effective. Hell Kerrigan was originally to be a sidecharacter but they made her interesting enough they had to write her in more prominently. (and then recycled it for Arthas and Sylvannas. jk, jk teasing the wc'ers :D).

+ Show Spoiler +
unrelated: Speaking of duke and Kerrigan, anyone remember that "sex with kerrigan map" lol. It like drew a naked chick with pylons and played the Duke x Kerrigan sound clip with timed pylon explosions LOL. SEE IT INSPIRES

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