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The Great Train Robbery on Brutal - How to do it? - Page 4

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Barook
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany143 Posts
August 03 2010 13:08 GMT
#61
Just did it with mass diamondbacks after failing hard before.

Getting all hidden diamondbacks early is crucial to get critical mass.

It also depends on what tech you have available.

On my second playthrough of the campaign on brutal, I did the mission quite early, so I didn't have any siege tanks. On my first playthrough on hard, I already had siege tanks.

IF you have siege tanks, the mission is so easy mode it isn't even funny anymore. Just park a few siege tanks (especially the merc ones, plus the +40 damage upgrade) on the ledge left of your base. This way, they can still somewhat help defense your base while tearing apart the bypassing trains, escorts and Maradaur squads in no time. Of course, you still have to attack the trains to finish the job, but siege tanks make your life much easier.
"Blink is pretty good, it helps your Stalkers to die quicker."
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
August 03 2010 13:40 GMT
#62
Marines (you will have excess mins) and diamondbacks make this mission very easy. Also collect crates around the map and get the expo.
I thought that it was one of the easiest missions in campaign.

And btw ravens are stupid, they waste HSM on first thing they see (oh, single marine, lemme see... HSM!)
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 03 2010 13:43 GMT
#63
Wow I didn't know about mass diamondbacks, i thought they were a junk unit (although i never really tried them out lol). I tried MnM but got raped badly, so I got pissed off, got siege tanks, went back and massed like a dozen tanks. killed the trains in ~3 volleys
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
August 04 2010 08:56 GMT
#64
Mass upgraded tanks does the job + a bunker or two in the base to deal with air. No trains got through on brutal, ridiculously easy
Yhamm is the god of predictions
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
August 04 2010 09:10 GMT
#65
the key to using diamond back is to keep micro'ing them so that they are just ahead of the train itself.

this allow u to do full damage all the time. if one of the escort chase your diamondbacks, they will be coming 1 or 2 at a time in which case your diamondbacks make quick work of them.
...from the land of imba
Chesner
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Iceland817 Posts
August 04 2010 09:59 GMT
#66
Just massed tanks, diamondbacks and just few goliaths to snipe down the ravens as they came.

Then I just placed my entire army at the exit to the left of my base and moved it up or down at leisure depending where the next train would come, was pretty easy. Had ofc few scv's coming down each wave to repair. The bullies were abit lol, walked into my tank line and just instantly died
PENGUINS
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
August 13 2010 05:19 GMT
#67
Anyone have the locations off the lost diamondbacks ? I wanna do hard achieve + brutal at once, since i hate running missions twice
Dead girls don't say no.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 13 2010 05:32 GMT
#68
On August 13 2010 14:19 Sqq wrote:
Anyone have the locations off the lost diamondbacks ? I wanna do hard achieve + brutal at once, since i hate running missions twice

They are pretty easy to find. A single playthrough should be more than enough to find them all. The game shows you the first 3. There is another at the top above your base. And then the rest are below your base.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
August 13 2010 05:41 GMT
#69
The mission is ridiculously easy on brutal if you have tanks.

Just siege 6 tanks up in the train's path with diamondback support, boom boom, the trains and escorts go bye bye. The "bully" marauder escort forces patrol into my tank line and just vanish in a blink. Siege tanks + tank researches = imba.

Since it was on brutal I thought there was going to be a surprise or a final boss attack. I was laughing a little inside when I finished it on brutal without a single reload.
Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
August 13 2010 05:46 GMT
#70
Finished this mission today with just massing diamondbacks from 2 factories, doesnt get any easier than tha.
"Well Tasteless, i once met a three-toed sloth with good marauder control " - Artosis
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
August 13 2010 06:28 GMT
#71
I did this on a 2nd play through file where I was rushing to play the secret mission which I missed so I didn't have much tech. Took some of the advice from this thread and went mass diamond back plus Marine + Medic to take hits. I had to reload a few times but then got stuck on the last train with too little forces. So I decided to make a Planetary Fortress near the tracks by lifting my main CC which had been mined out anyways. My Marine Medic plus PF got destroyed but it stalled the escort long enough for my Diamondbacks to pull out the win.
Apollys
Profile Joined July 2010
United States278 Posts
August 13 2010 09:49 GMT
#72
On August 13 2010 15:28 BlackMagister wrote:
I did this on a 2nd play through file where I was rushing to play the secret mission which I missed so I didn't have much tech. Took some of the advice from this thread and went mass diamond back plus Marine + Medic to take hits. I had to reload a few times but then got stuck on the last train with too little forces. So I decided to make a Planetary Fortress near the tracks by lifting my main CC which had been mined out anyways. My Marine Medic plus PF got destroyed but it stalled the escort long enough for my Diamondbacks to pull out the win.


Lmfao, Epic/Hilarious way to win.
When you're feeling down, I'll be there to feel you up!
Snacker
Profile Joined August 2010
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 10:09:58
August 13 2010 10:09 GMT
#73
i did it with
marauder/medic to kill guards,
diamond-things to intercept train
vikings to kill banshees and pick up zerg items and minerals hidden all over the map

tried with tanks before but those did not help when they come to bash the base
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 13 2010 10:39 GMT
#74
Mass marine/medic and diamondbacks. Use the marine/medic force to tank the guards, the diamondbacks to support (or just chase down the train). You can rebuild the marines with a few reactor raxes really easily after you loot the ruins of the train.

There's really nothing else to it. Marine/medic can tank an absurd amount of punishment (including the marauder kill teams) while dishing it back out, and your diamondbacks can provide support vs heavy targets/take out trains np. Get 1 factory with a tech lab, and 2~ raxes with reactors, and just keep making stuff and putting it in the way of enemies.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 13 2010 10:44 GMT
#75
Mass diamondbacks. Or come back when you get tanks. Either way this mission is really easy.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
August 13 2010 11:23 GMT
#76
If you have tanks this mission is piss easy. I just built 6 tanks and had about 12 diamond backs (also buy the merc tanks) Its a breeze.
Dead girls don't say no.
Zuran
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland12 Posts
August 13 2010 11:27 GMT
#77
Every new map is more or less made for the new units. So use em more than you think you should. Get upgrades from armory to your diamondbacks, and I mean ingame armory(if it's available) and not the ship armory, obviously you don't have diamondback yet since not completed the mission .
"The day of my death, is the day world celebrates."
potatomash3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia417 Posts
August 13 2010 11:45 GMT
#78
Just mass diamond backs works on brutal, the only problem that can happen are the ravens with their seeker missles.
Part of being mature is to accept your loss.
wollhandkrabbe
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany97 Posts
August 13 2010 12:03 GMT
#79
You can also beat the Killsquads easily by having a few Diamondbacks and/or Marauders on the ledge west of your base whenever they walk by.
10+ Diamondbacks + SCVs take out any train and escort easily on brutal.
Annatar11
Profile Joined May 2010
United States27 Posts
August 13 2010 13:21 GMT
#80
On August 13 2010 18:49 Apollys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2010 15:28 BlackMagister wrote:
I did this on a 2nd play through file where I was rushing to play the secret mission which I missed so I didn't have much tech. Took some of the advice from this thread and went mass diamond back plus Marine + Medic to take hits. I had to reload a few times but then got stuck on the last train with too little forces. So I decided to make a Planetary Fortress near the tracks by lifting my main CC which had been mined out anyways. My Marine Medic plus PF got destroyed but it stalled the escort long enough for my Diamondbacks to pull out the win.


Lmfao, Epic/Hilarious way to win.


When I did it on Brutal the first time I had no tech either.. I ended up winning by a hair: My last Diamondback got the last shot in just before it died. It literally exploded a second after the last train did.
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