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The Great Train Robbery on Brutal - How to do it? - Page 3

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Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 16:59:43
July 30 2010 16:58 GMT
#41
I ended up putting this mission off for a little while, meaning I just built up a group of siege tanks + sci-vessals, put em near the tracks and watch em tear through any escort+train...
marauder death squad didn't even get in range before all dieing, laughed my ass off that I got an achiev for killing them...
Zoltan
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States656 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 16:59:58
July 30 2010 16:59 GMT
#42
I did this mission np with mass diamondback (off of 2 factories). I even killed the marauder ball.

Edit: Firebat woot!
'HOW LONG HAVE THOSE REAPERS BEEN KILLING MY PROBES?!?!
Inkarnate
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada840 Posts
July 30 2010 17:01 GMT
#43
For the last two heavily guarded trains, keep your diamondback ball hidden until the train goes past you then just follow it and kill the guards and car at the end, you avoid fighting the escort at the front.
ArghUScaredMe
Profile Joined July 2010
United States712 Posts
July 30 2010 17:06 GMT
#44
I just tried the mass diamondbacks and it was so easy. Before I spent 3 hours failing.

Don't do the mass marauders and bunker strat. Dominon patrol will rape it or even if you beat them, your forces are fucked.

Brutal has such razor thin margin. Avoid patrols and all costs and rape them. Two bunkers at home with mercs to defend.

Very easy. I didn't rescue all the DBs on the map. Just gathered about 20 off of two fac. Thanks to whoever suggested it in this thread.
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
July 30 2010 17:08 GMT
#45
mass diamondback. sometimes you can pick off the trains from behind without having to engage the support.
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
July 30 2010 17:11 GMT
#46
On July 28 2010 15:57 mahnini wrote:
i used 6-8 diamondbacks and 2rax MMM. was hardest mission for me so far because you dont get constant resources


did you lift to the top left? technically it's not constant, but it was plenty for me to get by
Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 30 2010 17:11 GMT
#47
The support was never a problem for my diamondbacks o_O
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
July 30 2010 17:24 GMT
#48
Augh, how I wish I had access to tanks when I first started this mission. That probably would have made things a whole lot easier. I got Silver Streak on this mission using marines, goliaths, and diamondbacks with a squad of about 3 medics and 6 SCVs to repair. I used Browder goliaths and War Pigs whenever possible. Against the Raven escorts I was finding that the Diamondbacks are too fat to accurately micro against Seeker Missiles, always getting stuck on my troops, so I just sent in one marine ahead of time to force the Raven to use up its Seeker then cleaned up the escort after that. I had to use quite a bit of move-stop micro with my marines and goliaths, and Stim helped a lot.

I didn't anticipate the faster trains so I had to load an old save and stock up on more Diamondbacks earlier. In the end it wasn't too bad though, just make sure most of the gas that you get from salvaging the train wreckage gets put toward more Diamondbacks.
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DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
July 30 2010 17:27 GMT
#49
I just built lots of marauders. You can easily hit and run the trains with them. Marauders are also good for killing off the escorts. I also built a few diamondbacks but I didn't really feel they were needed.
Juvator
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands199 Posts
July 30 2010 17:30 GMT
#50
this may be a bit off topic but I couldnt find this information anywhere, but where are the 3 bones located on that map ? I found 2 but I can't seem to find the third one, is it in one of the terrans bases ? could anyone maybe make a screen with the 3 bones on em ? or just a simple paint picture with a dot on where they should be ?

thanks
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
ArghUScaredMe
Profile Joined July 2010
United States712 Posts
July 30 2010 17:33 GMT
#51
One nearby right of the Diamondback pinged on the map on top left.

Second one just southeast outer wall of your main base

Third one all the way middle south.

None of them are at corners. They stick out BIG on minimap once you walk past them, so check it (skeleton icon).
Juvator
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands199 Posts
July 30 2010 18:19 GMT
#52
ye I saw the icons, but I somehow could not find the last one those first two u named I found yea, I guess I kept walking just passed that last one, thanks
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 18:26:44
July 30 2010 18:26 GMT
#53
I know I'm late and I don't know what already have been suggested but I pretty much did only Diamondback with some other mix to take the damage and I just drived with the train as diamonbacks shoot while moving. Was one of the most easiest missions on brutal.

Edit: Oh ye avoid those deathsquads.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
August 02 2010 20:53 GMT
#54
>.< this mission is gaytardedly hard on brutal.
...from the land of imba
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
August 02 2010 20:56 GMT
#55
I just massed MMM and used the diamondbacks found on the map.

With a big enough ball you can practically instakill the trains, so the speed boost didn't even matter.
Like a G6
biarecare
Profile Joined July 2010
United States76 Posts
August 02 2010 21:07 GMT
#56
try to keep your diamondbacks alive with 3-4 around, mass siege tanks whenever you see a train coming and siege up.

I find massing tanks much more convinient than massing diamondbacks
jmark
Profile Joined April 2010
United States4 Posts
August 03 2010 07:26 GMT
#57
I had to put this off until I had siege tanks and then it was super easy. I put a couple tanks on the hill that's to the lower left. By the last train I had a ton of units at that location and the train + patrol were completely obliterated in seconds.
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
August 03 2010 08:53 GMT
#58
This mission is very easy when you "get it" (short guide with no extra tech required):

The most important part with diamondbacks:
- Attack fast trains from the front (you will only face a few helions)
- Attack slow trains from the back (and bring a few marines to take some heat). This way you will not face the ravens.

In addition:
- Get all 6 diamondbacks at once.
- Repair diamondbacks and your defence
- You need some defence. A bunker or a tank with a few turrets coupled with your building diamondbacks should hold until you come back. Don't loose your two factories or mining SCVs on such a restricted ressource mission. No need to expand though.
- Diamondbacks shoot while moving, so just keep them moving along the train, micro them at all times with the train, spam diamondbacks with a shortcut, don't take your eyes away from your army, it has to survive. If you are moving in stead of targetting the train you will kill whatever attacks you too.
- Avoid bunkers while you are chasing the train, crush them on your way back with your most fit units in front (if you can and have not lost too many a.s.o.).
- Get +attack upgrades, you want to kill the train faster.

With this approach you can do achievements and everything on brutal just with diamondbacks.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
August 03 2010 08:59 GMT
#59
Just mass diamondbacks. I had like 55 at the end of the mission with 12 goliths......
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
August 03 2010 10:23 GMT
#60
I didn't pick up the extra 3 diamond backs, and just massed diamond backs with a couple tanks and bunkers for defense. It took me a try or two, but once I was careful not to lose any diamondbacks I was fine.
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