EPTSo I finally did it. Got 2750.
Want to know what the difference between 1900 and 2750 was ? Upgrades. I had not upgraded one singel thing during the other tries. Upgraded it and it was a cakewalk. Jesus christ.
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
So I finally did it. Got 2750. Want to know what the difference between 1900 and 2750 was ? Upgrades. I had not upgraded one singel thing during the other tries. Upgraded it and it was a cakewalk. Jesus christ. | ||
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champignones
Panama160 Posts
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Justifer
107 Posts
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atkwai
Canada31 Posts
i made 2 extra gate ways, 2 extra robo. did not make extra forge/cybernetics. the game is long enough to get 3/3/3 and 3/3 out of 1 of each. go to 3465 before i wiped on wave 72 on brutal. http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll365/atkwai/Screenshot2010-08-0308_44_51.jpg edit: The Key is really upgrades. first time i did this. i kinda forgot about upgrades. same army composition. but i only reached 2100 or so | ||
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champignones
Panama160 Posts
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Illuminaire
Germany11 Posts
On brutal I built at first colossus with meatshields (Photon cannons) while upgrading everything. In this stage, it is crucial to lift up the hybrids with the pheonixes, as they destroy your colossi. As mentioned before, the key to winning is the upgrades. When the Void Rays are available, I built 4 Star Gates, and from then Void Rays only with excess minerals into cannons. It worked like a charm. I got to over 3500 kills. Void Rays dominate everything easily (with Upgrades!!) | ||
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Snacker
10 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On August 13 2010 19:15 Snacker wrote: i have been trying this on brutal for like 10 restarts, then i noticed the zergs allways gather outside your base before they attack, where your observers are. with always having an eye on the minimap, i finally did it with ease because i could put all troops to the right place, rather then having them on all 3 entries idling Just sit your entire army at the archive itself, so they don't have to travel around and can hit any side (with air/colossi). Cannon ring the archive itself and forget holding the gates - the chokepoints aren't that important. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On August 12 2010 03:08 theytookourjobs wrote: Why do I have such problems with this mission on brutal difficulty, been trying for like 4 hours now. On hard difficulty it wasn't any problem at all to get the extra kills achievements. Now I keep dying 150-200 kills before the main objective. Tried lots of unit combinations and mass immortal/colossi went really bad. My supply dropped from like 180 to 22 almost instantly in the end, and then I still had 200-250 kills to go. Even supported with mass cannons. Tried to lower your colossi count? They're not that important, just to burn through lings. It's the hybrids that will give you trouble which need hard hitting +armored units to kill quickly. I know some in this thread are like "lol 100000 colossi easy win" but it's not true the hybrids will gib your colossi so fast. | ||
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b_unnies
3579 Posts
On August 15 2010 10:31 Ownos wrote: Tried to lower your colossi count? They're not that important, just to burn through lings. It's the hybrids that will give you trouble which need hard hitting +armored units to kill quickly. I know some in this thread are like "lol 100000 colossi easy win" but it's not true the hybrids will gib your colossi so fast. i built mass colossus+cannons then transition to carriers. i stopped building anything once i reached 2k and still won easily. i built 0 immortals | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
On July 29 2010 19:58 Moos wrote: Took the strat from another thread, but after losing twice (not even close), void/col worked beautifully. Went almost pure collosi/void on brutal and ended up somewhere under 4000 kills. Defended the archive too. I think I threw in some stalkers and cannons occasionally. Upgrades are a must, obviously. Phoenix lift the scary guys. Once the archive goes down, retreat to your main and wall off the two ramps with gates and then mass cannon/void/col. Easy mode.. While I didn't have quite the success you did, another vote for brutal colossus/void. Immediately putu up a second forge and researched shield upgrades + ground weapons and started pumping 4 robo colossus and cannoned up around the archives. Kept the colossus behind the archives before a push, moved to intercept during a push, this kept a nice meatshield of cannons infront of the colossus. When VRs became available I spammed 6 stargates and researched up weapons + armor for air. Pretty much went pure VR at this point. Spare minerals went to adding to the cannons immediately surrounding the archives. With about 2 mins left on the archive timer I started cannoning in my main base and retreated to high ground. The remaining cannons around archives held off until that submission was complete. Then I pretty much just spammed more VRs and cannoned my main. After Artanis joined in I started to have some difficulties, I tried to vortex clumps of the ranged hybrids and mop up the others. I ended up with somewhere around 2800 kills, all in all a success. | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
+ void rays = 99% of your damage | ||
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Archon_Wing
United States378 Posts
Use your extra resources to get collosi and ups. (Get air ups in anticipation of the void rays) When you get voids, I pretty much build nothing but them and the random immortal and dark templar; rally the new void raids straight on your heroes. When the archive countdown is almost done, you'll have a ton of nydus worms in your base, so just build a dozen so cannons or so to prepare. When they start popping up, warp some dts in that area. You don't really need to be so worried about defending the archive; a couple of cannons and your main army will do fine. | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
Pump Collosus/Phoenix at the beginning, mainly Collosus though. When Void Rays become available, start building those. (and Collosus with extra money) Surround the Archives in cannons. You Phoenix to lift Hybrids. If you start losing phoenix, rebuild some so you have a healthy amount (around 10) Really easy mission as far as Brutal is concerned, imo. At least you don't have to worry about having certain tech/research. | ||
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groms
Canada1017 Posts
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Ouga
Finland645 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On August 16 2010 14:48 Ouga wrote: I had this on brutal with 3398 kills. First pumped 2robo colossus and made few cannons, and by the time nyduses start to pop on midarea fall back and defend with remaining colos and VRs I had started pumped pretty early. In the end I had about 30 cannons, blocked both ramps totally with gateways, ~8 colos and 30 VRs/carriers (the given carriers only). I could imagine someone going way over 3,5k with slight changes to strat. He'd have to be pretty insane, because the sheer mass of units that start arriving in wave 70+ (3500~) is rather daunting. I'd like to see it though, I always seem to go down to wave 72 at about 3480. | ||
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Flawm
United States8 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Here are the keys: 1. Ignore that gold expansion. You don't need it 2. Continue to pump ONLY Colossus from two robo and keep your Phoenix count around 7-8. Two robo facilities are enough. You have no need for any other unit whatsoever. Dump your excessive mineral into cannons. You need to keep pumping Colossus throughout the entire level. 3. Use your Phoenixes to lift the hybrids and focus fire. I prioritized the range ones. Colossus will rape everything else. 4. UPGRADE, UPGRADE, UPGRADE! Don't be shy and don't be afraid of making another forge. I even went ahead and made a second core. Upgrade both air and ground. You will need them. 5. Build three Stargates once you have the money. As soon as you have access to void rays, pump void rays from the three stargates. Don't forget to keep your Phoenix count around 8. 6. Phoenix lift hybrids, void ray kill hybrids and ultra very fast. Colossus rape everything else. 7. Once you have access to carriers, build carriers instead of void rays. 8. Once the archive countdown timer is down to one minute or so, pull all your troops back to the highground and spam the highground with cannons. 9. Artanis will arrive with that giant mothership once you reach 2500 kills. Its vortex ability is awesome, use it on chokes. 10. Keep pumping colossus and carriers. Keep on killing. Don't forget to make 4 cannons or so around your mineral line. Worms will pop up in your mineral line and can kill all your probes with just a handful of lings. 11. At 3200 kill mark, the AI will flow you with the entire Char worth of zergs, just sit tight and watch your protoss army rip another 100 or so kills before perishing. I made a final stand with what's left of my air fleet at 5 o'clock after my entire main got sacked. The hero carrier and hero void ray were the last to die. It was sad.  | ||
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RedTerror
New Zealand742 Posts
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