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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
February 01 2009 18:54 GMT
#421
On February 02 2009 03:39 JudgeMathis wrote:
What does HIIT mean?

I just got out of the gym. Did shoulders / triceps. Jogged a 1 1/4 mile after each body part. So one after shoulders and triceps. Feels better to seperate cardio into parts rather than doing it in one chunk.


High intensity interval training.

I don't know that you'll see the best results working out in that manner. I can't say for certain, but I mean, it just seems like there's probably a really good reason that it's normally separated (weight lifting one day, cardio another). Like I said, I can't say for certain, but....
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
February 03 2009 23:14 GMT
#422
On February 02 2009 03:54 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2009 03:39 JudgeMathis wrote:
What does HIIT mean?

I just got out of the gym. Did shoulders / triceps. Jogged a 1 1/4 mile after each body part. So one after shoulders and triceps. Feels better to seperate cardio into parts rather than doing it in one chunk.


High intensity interval training.

I don't know that you'll see the best results working out in that manner. I can't say for certain, but I mean, it just seems like there's probably a really good reason that it's normally separated (weight lifting one day, cardio another). Like I said, I can't say for certain, but....


Well, I need to lose a lot of body fat percentage (I'd like to be in the 11-13% this year). I was thinking of doing 45-60 mins of cardio a day. The reason for this is because I would like to increase my lung capacity and to also burn some fat (I'm usually doing 5.0 on the treadmill, which gets my heart around 155 heart beat per min so good for burning fat). Though, I'm not really sure if its good. Could you offer some advice on what I should do? I'm trying to lose the fat, but increase some muscle mass.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
ilovehnk
Profile Joined October 2008
475 Posts
February 03 2009 23:32 GMT
#423
On February 04 2009 08:14 JudgeMathis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2009 03:54 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
On February 02 2009 03:39 JudgeMathis wrote:
What does HIIT mean?

I just got out of the gym. Did shoulders / triceps. Jogged a 1 1/4 mile after each body part. So one after shoulders and triceps. Feels better to seperate cardio into parts rather than doing it in one chunk.


High intensity interval training.

I don't know that you'll see the best results working out in that manner. I can't say for certain, but I mean, it just seems like there's probably a really good reason that it's normally separated (weight lifting one day, cardio another). Like I said, I can't say for certain, but....


Well, I need to lose a lot of body fat percentage (I'd like to be in the 11-13% this year). I was thinking of doing 45-60 mins of cardio a day. The reason for this is because I would like to increase my lung capacity and to also burn some fat (I'm usually doing 5.0 on the treadmill, which gets my heart around 155 heart beat per min so good for burning fat). Though, I'm not really sure if its good. Could you offer some advice on what I should do? I'm trying to lose the fat, but increase some muscle mass.


do tabata, read what I have posted before. Steady state cardio = fail.
Hikou Shinketsushuu
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 03 2009 23:36 GMT
#424
On February 04 2009 08:14 JudgeMathis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2009 03:54 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
On February 02 2009 03:39 JudgeMathis wrote:
What does HIIT mean?

I just got out of the gym. Did shoulders / triceps. Jogged a 1 1/4 mile after each body part. So one after shoulders and triceps. Feels better to seperate cardio into parts rather than doing it in one chunk.


High intensity interval training.

I don't know that you'll see the best results working out in that manner. I can't say for certain, but I mean, it just seems like there's probably a really good reason that it's normally separated (weight lifting one day, cardio another). Like I said, I can't say for certain, but....


Well, I need to lose a lot of body fat percentage (I'd like to be in the 11-13% this year). I was thinking of doing 45-60 mins of cardio a day. The reason for this is because I would like to increase my lung capacity and to also burn some fat (I'm usually doing 5.0 on the treadmill, which gets my heart around 155 heart beat per min so good for burning fat). Though, I'm not really sure if its good. Could you offer some advice on what I should do? I'm trying to lose the fat, but increase some muscle mass.



do your cardio pre-meal
if you're gonna eat something beforehand make it small
ilovehnk
Profile Joined October 2008
475 Posts
February 03 2009 23:45 GMT
#425
On February 02 2009 02:11 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2009 11:43 ilovehnk wrote:
On January 29 2009 20:27 Energies wrote:
Just got back from the gym. 15 min Jog, 15 min Cycle and 40 min with a personal trainer destroying my Shoulders/Back/some bicep.

I really really have to pick up my game in order to meet my goal now, in the last 4 weeks I have gained over 2lb of muscle while my original goal was indeed weightless, it was really fat loss, which I am accomplishing but I don't really have a way to gauge it.

I have a couple of options. 1. Stop weight training and just go hardcore cardio for the next 3 weeks in order to lose the next 6lb and meet my goal. 2. Continue weight training, reduce my protein intake and way up my cardio whilst I start taking speed or cocaine . 3. Revise my goal and just go for the American Beauty - Kevin Spacey goal. "I wanna look good naked".

I sort of wish I hadn't set such a crazy date for my goal, oh well. I'm going to have to accomplish it.





lol, no offense, but you are stupid and your personal is stupid as well, jog and cycling are redundant, no need to do both, and you don't need 30min to warm up. If you have any idea on weight loss and what you are doing, you should never cut protein intake regardless losing weight or bulking. Like I have said in the thread, if you want to lose weight, burn more calories than you consume, if you want to gain weight, eat more. Lifting weights does not burn enough calories compared to HIIT.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_nutrition/nutrition_for_newbies

you don't need to go to gym hit weights to lose weight, all you need is some intense cardio on empty stomach in the morning(tabata). All you doing now is wasting money on trainer, and your trainer is an idiot who doesn't know shit.


Running and cycling work the muscles in two different manners. That's like saying "if you want to build your biceps, all you have to do is full curls. There's no sense in doing preacher curls, half curls, etc, etc, because they are all doing the same thing." No, they don't, they work the muscles in a different manner, thus giving additional benefits to the workout.

Lifting weights burns shit loads of calories, and most people CANNOT handle HIIT. It is absolutely brutal on the body, and there is very good reason that most fitness experts do not recommend starting with HIIT. Will it burn calories faster? Yes, absolutely, because it continues to burn calories even after the work out. Do your risk unnecessary injury that could potentially keep you from working out? Yes, absolutely, because if your body is not ready to be pushed to the limits, it's not going to react very well. You can lower the intensity of interval training, but then it's not high intensity, so it's no longer HIIT: it's just interval training. Just because you read a couple of forums/articles, and a few guys say "screw the old stuff, try HIIT" doesn't make you an expert in fitness and nutrition. So stop being such a cocksucker.


dude, I don't want to argue, I have done tabata, steady state cardio, biking/cycling, jogging, any kind of weight lifting from power lifting, olympic lifting.... I know more shit than the hair you have on your head. I know what works, what doesn't, I have done all of them, that is why I recommend the shit that works.
I'll just point out some of your mistakes.
1. running and cycling both cadio, running is far superior in terms of burning calories, intensity, especially tabata.
2. don't confuse body building with cardio, same rules don't apply in both area.
3. you don't understand the idea behind warm up.
4. like I have said and I gave warning, tabata is not for weak hearted and people who haven't done exercise in years.
5. you lack very basic common sense knowledge regarding working out, even for HIIT, no one starts off with full speed especially if you haven't done any intense work out in a long time. you always start slow, then progress, ie, start off at 50% intensity, for 1 week or 2 weeks, then once your body is comfortable, not sore next the day, then move onto 60 or 70%, so on. eventually do it at full speed.
6. lifting weights doesn't burn alot of calories, unless you doing super heavy weights with many reps, but then it is impossible for you to do super heavy with many reps. ie. DL 3-4 times body weight for 5x10, with 1-2min rest in between.

Hikou Shinketsushuu
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20060 Posts
February 03 2009 23:46 GMT
#426
Don't break up your cardio
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
February 04 2009 00:18 GMT
#427
On January 03 2009 20:07 KurtistheTurtle wrote:
Among other sports I wrestled for four years and have gone through countless fitness and diet regimes. If you wanna get skinny or stay skinny:

-50 push-ups, 60 sit-ups EVERY day. Proper form, not fropper porn. Even if you can only hit 10 and 10, do it.
-Eat at least 3 meals a day, especially breakfast. Even if you don't feel like eating anything force down some eggs and drink that OJ. Your metabolism won't increase if you don't break your fast in the morning. It will stay at your sleeping level
-Don't inhibit all your cravings unless you can replace them with more than ample amounts of food. Granted, if you've measured out and calculated a perfect diet, stick to that. But for those of us who don't know how and don't wanna go through the trouble--eat that chocolate bar 1 time out of 3. Then eat some fruit.
-Midnight cravings are horrible for you if you indulge, the food just goes straight to fat. My friend and I eat ungodly things at ungodly hours, but with the 60/50 and our adhd movement all the time we manage to stay good-looking. If you do indulge, do it with a turkey sandwich. Pizza rolls are bad for you.
-This is probably the biggest thing I've learned and it kind of goes to that candy one I said earlier, IF YOU'RE HUNGRY DON'T NOT EAT. I hope you had to read that twice. When you stop eating your metabolism slows down. Not eating will take away energy and other goodies your brain needs to play sc properly. If you're thinking that that gnawing feeling in your stomach is making you more attractive/helping you lose weight, trust me--it's not. I did this crap my first two years of wrestling and it doesn't work. I actually started gaining fat when I ate less
-When you eat a meal, eat until you're 80% full and stop. Throw in tons of snacks in between (buy a hella big bag of pretzels or get started on those big christmas popcorn tins.)
-Eat random fruit. I recommend cuties (little oranges), but that's because I'm a sucker for them. easy to peel, easy to eat, easy to...the last step in the equation. They make you talk better (well they make your throat better at least) and prevent colds too
-Get in the habit of drinking water. Just have random water bottles all over your house, especially by your computer. Or keep them in the fridge, if you like cold water. also you'll be ok if those aliens from signs attack (what a dumbass ending)
-Eat carrots. They're really frickin' good for you.
-Eat peanuts, too. Peanut m&m's at the very least.
-Eat with in at least an hour (or 30 mins, something like that) after you work out. Eat fast-digesting proteins and carbs.
-Drink water while working out.
-Stretch after working out--your muscles build 15% faster or some crap. My friend told me this and I don't do it, but he's kind of a beast and a really honest guy so I'll take his word for it. I made up the 15% part.
-Learn how to sautee onions, then you'll like onions. Then eat onions in stuff.
-If you're not doing it with a professional, don't count calories. That's bullcrap. Avoid foods with high concentrations of unnatural fat. free-range animal fat is actually good for you.
-if you've got weak bones eat celery
-if you've got a bad memory eat blueberries
-If you see "partially hydrogenated" in any part of an ingredients list, that food is hella bad for you (cosmic brownies T.T)
-if you don't laugh very much find something funny to watch or read, like firebathero's celebration (LMAO)
-consistency is basically how you lose weight. do something small, but do it consistently (remember--its x365) Running 7 minutes a day will make you pretty skinny.
-Don't eat mcdonalds every day. I never spend money on fast food, but pretty much all my friends do all the time. what works with them is that if they go without it for two days, they get to eat it a third.
-before you go to bed, eat a peice of fruit or some yogurt. it actually boosts your metabolism while you sleep.

This is just me. When you lose a game of starcraft, do 5 push-ups. Or 5 pull-ups if a pull-up bar is close. Hopefully in that time you can calm down enough to realize what you did wrong and what to do better next game.


Kind of an update...that 50 push-ups 60 sit-ups thing is magic. I've been eating craploads of stuff (good and bad) all the time, and I'm getting more toned than ever. I've actually had to UP a knotch on my belt to make it smaller...and I bought the belt a couple weeks ago. I'm already pretty slim, so...wow.

Disclaimer on some of my quoted advice: if I say something like

Also, disclaimer: when I say stuff like "if you've got weak bones eat celery," I read it on yahoo. Not that it will make your bones stronger, but it will provide the nutrients moreso than you would get without including them in your diet. And blueberries (and other blue-colored fruits) actually aid in memory preservation.

I also added a couple things if for some weird reason you look up the post I quoted
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
February 04 2009 00:35 GMT
#428
Well it's been a month since I started and I've lost 8 lbs. Pretty close to my 10 lbs. per month goal, but not great considering that I know my weight loss will slow down after a while.

Still optimistic though, doubt I'll reach my goal in the time I set for myself (even back then I had doubts) but as far as I'm concerned all progress is good
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
February 04 2009 00:45 GMT
#429
On February 04 2009 08:36 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2009 08:14 JudgeMathis wrote:
On February 02 2009 03:54 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
On February 02 2009 03:39 JudgeMathis wrote:
What does HIIT mean?

I just got out of the gym. Did shoulders / triceps. Jogged a 1 1/4 mile after each body part. So one after shoulders and triceps. Feels better to seperate cardio into parts rather than doing it in one chunk.


High intensity interval training.

I don't know that you'll see the best results working out in that manner. I can't say for certain, but I mean, it just seems like there's probably a really good reason that it's normally separated (weight lifting one day, cardio another). Like I said, I can't say for certain, but....


Well, I need to lose a lot of body fat percentage (I'd like to be in the 11-13% this year). I was thinking of doing 45-60 mins of cardio a day. The reason for this is because I would like to increase my lung capacity and to also burn some fat (I'm usually doing 5.0 on the treadmill, which gets my heart around 155 heart beat per min so good for burning fat). Though, I'm not really sure if its good. Could you offer some advice on what I should do? I'm trying to lose the fat, but increase some muscle mass.



do your cardio pre-meal
if you're gonna eat something beforehand make it small


I'll do some of this when I get better and some tabata.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
February 04 2009 01:30 GMT
#430
On February 04 2009 08:45 ilovehnk wrote:
dude, I don't want to argue, I have done tabata, steady state cardio, biking/cycling, jogging, any kind of weight lifting from power lifting, olympic lifting.... I know more shit than the hair you have on your head. I know what works, what doesn't, I have done all of them, that is why I recommend the shit that works.


Everyone is different. No knowledge is gained about everyone by studying just one person. Trying everything yourself isn't enough to know what's best for other people. If you can't accept that something that didn't work for you at all could actually work for another person, then you shouldn't be so strict about your advice.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 04 2009 04:43 GMT
#431
month 1 - standstill T__T
Ichigo1234551
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States649 Posts
February 04 2009 12:27 GMT
#432
MUST GO TO GYM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WILL DESTROY YOU IN 2009 OK???????????????
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
February 04 2009 13:08 GMT
#433
On February 04 2009 13:43 thedeadhaji wrote:
month 1 - standstill T__T


lazy ass
i need to find a scale
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
February 04 2009 14:40 GMT
#434
On February 04 2009 08:46 decafchicken wrote:
Don't break up your cardio


I just don't have the same focus as I did before with cardio. I find it boring if I have to do jogging for 40 minutes. I think, I was watching Made (rofl), but it was interesting. It was about some fat kid who wasn't very masculine who wanted to be made into a bodybuilder. I forgot how long his cardio sessions were, but the bodybuilder (Mr. America 2007, or 08 don't remember) made him do 2 sessions of cardio.

The reason why he made him do 2 sessions of cardio was make him drop weight a lot faster, and to make him burn more fat. By like the 6 weeks he dropped about 4 belt sizes (I forgot about the BF%). But, I was pretty impressed on how fast he managed to cut his weight, and size in 6 weeks.

I just figure if I do cardio in between workouts, I'll definitely won't leave the gym early because I didn't want to do cardio. Also, I'm also doing cycling 3 times a week.
Benching 225 is light weight. Soy Cubano y Boricua!
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-04 15:08:51
February 04 2009 15:06 GMT
#435
Got from 194 to 191.
I ate pretty bad this month (ok breakfasts, ok dinners, nasty fat sandwich lunches)
but I've been jogging frequently (more or less) playing soccer, swimming a few times.
Drank very little alcohol. It probably helps a lot too.
I don't notice much difference (well 3 lbs is not much) but my GF says she does :D

All in all, results are ok so far... I guess
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
February 04 2009 15:28 GMT
#436
Best chance for me to lose weight is def the next 4 months, I probably won't drink at all, maybe once a week at most and only a beer or two so gogogo -15 pounds!
you dropped the soap
Profile Joined November 2006
Korea (South)28 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-04 15:38:26
February 04 2009 15:37 GMT
#437
To the guy two above, and to all others worrying about the quantity/contents of the food of their breakfast/lunch/dinners, I heard an interesting statement on TV.

It was by a personal trainer called Michelle, who stars in this reality weight loss show.

She said (not exactly), "For breakfast eat like a king, for lunch eat like a prince, and for dinner eat like a [peasant]". So I'm guessing, have that extra egg for brekkie, stick that extra chicken fillet into your lunch sandwich, but for dinner, especially when close to bedtime, take it a bit easier. It's what I interpreted from her advice anyway.

I haven't really committed myself to this fitness initiative yet, but I'm definitely making an effort on going to the gym and working hard to get bigger.

Age: 17 Height: 177cm
Current weight: 71kg
Goal Weight: 75kg
Starting Date: 2/2/09
Goal Date : 13/5/09

I've gone gym the past 3 days already =D Tomorrow's my rest day.

Good luck to everyone and to meee
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
February 04 2009 15:54 GMT
#438
Well... 3 weeks ago I was on a good track and stuck with my plan. Then I bought a lot of weed... and now that I'm recovering from pretty much being stoned regularly the past 3 weeks, I'm once again back on the plan. My goal date was the 12th and I'm sad to say that the past 3 weeks have really killed my chance of accomplishing much. I need a more specific goal anyways than "less fat, more muscle". Hmmmmm
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KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
February 04 2009 16:43 GMT
#439
On February 05 2009 00:54 EscPlan9 wrote:
3 weeks ago I was on a good track and stuck with my plan. Then I bought a lot of weed...

Ah ah Weed and plans. These two don't get along well.
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
February 05 2009 12:13 GMT
#440
Bought a road bike this afternoon. Just an entry level Giant CRX.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Did 25 km Tonight (15.5 Miles)

I'm going to start riding it to work from Monday. Well.. maybe not all the way, I'll catch a train for a stretch of the journey, its prob like 50km to work (31 Miles)

This should naturally cover my cardio so I can concentrate on my weight and strength training!
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
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