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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
December 24 2009 14:23 GMT
#2321
i'm on vacation in singapore right now.

i worked out with my old swim team and got my ass kicked. i really need to get in shape because i have some army fitness test in like 2-3 weeks.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 28 2009 06:11 GMT
#2322
I started my diet and exercise routine again today. It is a modified ckd. Although it is low carb, it really has nothing to do with being or getting into ketosis, the only reason for the low carb is to stop the production and storage of muscle glycogen in order to be burning as much fat as possible from Tuesday night until Thursday afternoon. And to put the body straight back into an anabolic mode and utilise the massive carb intake on Friday and Saturday as muscle glycogen rather than being stored as fat.

Diet:

Mon - Tues - Wed
Low carb days, hight protein, moderate fat, roughly 1600kcal
Thursday until lunch
Low carb, moderate fat, high protein, 1000kcal
Thursday pre workout
50-60grams of carbs
Thursday post workout until Saturday night.
High carb, moderate protein, low fat - roughly 6000kcal
Sunday
Moderate carb, high protein, low fat - 1800-2000kcal

As the body does not operate on a 24 hour clock, overall it works out to roughly 2200kcal a day.

Workout routine:

Mon - Tues
Glycogen depletion workouts, full body, high reps 60% of 1RM.
Wednesday - off - Light cardio if I have the energy.
Thursday
High intensity moderately high weight. Getting ready for carb up. - Light post workout cardio
Friday - off
Saturday
Low rep - super heavy weight 3-6 reps, 80-90% 1RM.
Sunday - Evening cardio.

---

Today was my first depletion workout, here is what I did.

45-60seconds rest between each set, 1-2 minutes rest between each exercise. I threw up after about 5 exercises. I am teh weak sauce *sad face*. I felt nauseous, light headed and felt like I was going to pass out after every set. But unfortunately that is completely normal for this type of workout.

45deg leg press, 3 x 15
Leg curl, 3 x 15
Chest press, 3 x 15
Seated row, 3 x 15
Calf raise, 3 x 15
(threw up here)
DB shoulder press, 3 x 15
Bicep curl, 2 x 15
Tricep pushdown, 2 x 15
5 min rest
Horizontal leg press superset with calfs, 3 x 15, 3 x 15
Dips, 3 x 15
Palms in, lateral pulldowns, 2 x 15 (gym closed).

It is an 8 week diet, and I am hoping to lose about 1/2kg(1 Lb) a week. I took a photo and will do so every 2 weeks and post them all at the end of the 8 weeks.

--

Here we go again.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Stormich
Profile Joined August 2003
Croatia336 Posts
December 28 2009 13:03 GMT
#2323
Just have a question about eggs. I am currently on a low carb diet and I eat 3 eggs per day. Could I take it to 6 eggs or maybe even more? Does the good cholesterol in eggs have a limit of intake?
hi
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 21:41:24
December 28 2009 21:40 GMT
#2324
There is too much conflicting information to get a straight answer for that questions in my opinion.

For a period of time I was easily consuming 5-6 eggs a day. Go for it I say, as long as you're exercising, taking in plenty of antioxidants and poly and monounsaturate fats, you should be fine. Just don't do it forever.

Most of the cholesterol in your body is produced by your liver, not by the foods you take in, I think I once read somewhere that eating 2-3 eggs a day actually lowers LDL levels because you're getting like 200mg an egg so your liver doesn't feel the need to produce as much, I don't know what the threshold for diminishing returns are though if that is true.

I'd probably start Googling away and come up with your own conclusion.

"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
December 28 2009 22:09 GMT
#2325
On December 29 2009 06:40 Energies wrote:
There is too much conflicting information to get a straight answer for that questions in my opinion.

For a period of time I was easily consuming 5-6 eggs a day. Go for it I say, as long as you're exercising, taking in plenty of antioxidants and poly and monounsaturate fats, you should be fine. Just don't do it forever.

Most of the cholesterol in your body is produced by your liver, not by the foods you take in, I think I once read somewhere that eating 2-3 eggs a day actually lowers LDL levels because you're getting like 200mg an egg so your liver doesn't feel the need to produce as much, I don't know what the threshold for diminishing returns are though if that is true.

I'd probably start Googling away and come up with your own conclusion.



...is it bad that i started googling "egg intake" half way through before i read the last sentence? i've seriously googled everything i can imagine about nutrition and lifting in the last two months
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 29 2009 02:27 GMT
#2326
Not at all! 90% of what I have learnt over the past couple of years has been through the internet.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
December 29 2009 05:47 GMT
#2327
Anyone have cool assessory lifts that I could do after my workout? I do olympic lifts and all the other lifts that correspond to it. I have freedom after my lifts to do random stuff. I really need to strengthen my upper body especially for my jerk since it is the weak part of my lift.

Assessory lifts that I do:
press- bench press, overhead press, one arm dumbbell overhead press, pushups
pull- dumbbell row, pullups
core- superman, back extensions, crunches, situps, leg lifts variations hanging from pullup bar

I do one or two of these lifts after my workout and always one or two core exercises.

I am thinking on off-days, I will get back to some sprints and plyometrics. I might want to try the ab roller, which i heard is really good.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
December 29 2009 05:54 GMT
#2328
This thread needs more pics and less text.
fanatacist likes men.....but mostly boys...and some anal toys. Also his ability to read and understand posts is on par with a slightly retarded meerkat.
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
December 29 2009 06:03 GMT
#2329
I've been working on that 100 pushups program for awhile now, so far stuck on week 5. Someone recommended that I try squeezing in an additional workout during the rest time between sets of pushups so I've started doing chinups/pullups after each set.

I'll see how it goes but I think this plateau I'm stuck on is due to lack of sufficient food intake. I'm roughly 5'7" and 120 pounds and intaking on average 1600-1700 calories daily. I'm told that I should be intaking at least 2000, preferably closer to 2500 if I want to grow at all. Not sure how best to add more calories to my diet but I was given this Muscle Milk protein drink stuff for Christmas so I'm using that after my pushups and pullup/chinup stuff, not sure if that will help.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
December 29 2009 07:31 GMT
#2330
On December 29 2009 15:03 Phyre wrote:
I've been working on that 100 pushups program for awhile now, so far stuck on week 5. Someone recommended that I try squeezing in an additional workout during the rest time between sets of pushups so I've started doing chinups/pullups after each set.

I'll see how it goes but I think this plateau I'm stuck on is due to lack of sufficient food intake. I'm roughly 5'7" and 120 pounds and intaking on average 1600-1700 calories daily. I'm told that I should be intaking at least 2000, preferably closer to 2500 if I want to grow at all. Not sure how best to add more calories to my diet but I was given this Muscle Milk protein drink stuff for Christmas so I'm using that after my pushups and pullup/chinup stuff, not sure if that will help.


You sir, need to start lifting some iron if you want to put on some pounds. And eat like twice as much lol(not literally). Benching will make push ups way easier. I used to be able to do like 5 push ups till i started lifting for football. Moving half your body weight is nothing when you can bench twice it
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 29 2009 07:59 GMT
#2331
On December 28 2009 15:11 Energies wrote:
I started my diet and exercise routine again today. It is a modified ckd. Although it is low carb, it really has nothing to do with being or getting into ketosis, the only reason for the low carb is to stop the production and storage of muscle glycogen in order to be burning as much fat as possible from Tuesday night until Thursday afternoon. And to put the body straight back into an anabolic mode and utilise the massive carb intake on Friday and Saturday as muscle glycogen rather than being stored as fat.


Incase you didn't know, Ketosis is what you body goes into when it begins to starve to death. It helps to keep you from dying. You shouldn't try to put your body in Ketosis regardless of the benefits (unless you're a starving Ethopian boy?).
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 11:09:12
December 29 2009 08:33 GMT
#2332
I really don't look at it that way. When your body is deprived of carbs so it is no longer producing glycogen, it turns fat into ketones for fuel. To avoid negative effects from prolong ketosis, you do it 3-4 days at a time and then carb up.

There are entire books on the subject, and a mainstream diet devoted to the way ketosis works.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 11:39:32
December 29 2009 11:37 GMT
#2333
for how many reps/sets should i be doing calf raises?? (strength is what im looking for). i've read some sources recommending high reps in the 15+ range...i can barely do 8-10 in succession without losing form. are there any other exercises that i can do to strengthen my calf muscles besides calf raises??
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-29 12:20:40
December 29 2009 12:19 GMT
#2334
I use the 45degree or flat leg press, I place my feet at the very bottom of the platform, so only my toes are touching the platform. It is similar to a calf raise but you're not putting any pressure on your lower back, so you really only stop when your calves start to give. Apply pressure until you get full contraction in your calf muscles, you shouldn't really move much, or move the weights much.

Your calves just like your abs recover and disperse of lactic acid super fast. So I do ridiculous amounts of sets, sometimes 15-20 sets of 12 reps, mostly because it is such a small range of motion that you can get through sets really quickly.

If I am running low on time, I superset high weight with low weight, I'll jump on a machine, set the weight high enough that I can only do about 8-10 reps, at which point I lower the weight by 2/3rds in the few seconds it takes to lower the weight I give my calves enough time to get rid of some lactic acid and then I do about 12-15 reps, the burn is incredible, I'm not able to walk for about a minute afterwards. Make sure the rest in between changing weights isn't anymore than a few seconds.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
December 30 2009 01:38 GMT
#2335
oops, i forgot to mention i didn't have access to a gym. but thanks, i'll keep that in mind for reference once i get the opportunity to enroll in a gym. so it's just calf raises with dumbbells in the meantime.
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 30 2009 02:39 GMT
#2336
Start cycling, raise the seat, increase resistance and you'll have massive calves and quads!
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Flow.of.soul
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States210 Posts
December 30 2009 03:15 GMT
#2337
I'm going to start posting in this thread in the hopes that it will force me to start working out again.

Age: 17 Height 6' 0"
Current Weight: 179
Goal Weight 165
Starting Date: January 1st
Goal Date: April 1st

The idea being to loss 15 more pounds as fast as possible and start to bulk up so that I have some muscle before summer break starts. I started trying to get fit at the beginning of school (beginning of September) and I was at 195 then. I got to 180 in middle of November, but I haven't lost any weight since then because of a vacation to Montreal, then Thanksgiving, then really busy with school work, and now Christmas time.

What I did to lose my initial 15 pounds was to cut out desserts from my diet, only drink water or hot tea without creamer and real sugar, and to go to the gym three times a week doing the treadmill or elliptical machine for 45 minutes. Is there anything else I should be doing?

Right now my diet is pretty bad, I'm snacking all the time but I've been going to the gym 3 to 4 times a week now that I'm on break, so I have not been gaining weight. I tried to cut out snacks from my diet today, but I found I was really hungry throughout the day and could not make it. From my last time cutting out snacks I found the first 3 to 7 days are a real bitch, but after that its pretty easy. Are there any ways to make that process easier?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 30 2009 03:29 GMT
#2338
On December 28 2009 22:03 Stormer wrote:
Just have a question about eggs. I am currently on a low carb diet and I eat 3 eggs per day. Could I take it to 6 eggs or maybe even more? Does the good cholesterol in eggs have a limit of intake?


Saturated fat from natural sources like eggs is good for you.

Eat up. Eggs are awesome.

If you want some links just ask.

On December 29 2009 16:59 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 15:11 Energies wrote:
I started my diet and exercise routine again today. It is a modified ckd. Although it is low carb, it really has nothing to do with being or getting into ketosis, the only reason for the low carb is to stop the production and storage of muscle glycogen in order to be burning as much fat as possible from Tuesday night until Thursday afternoon. And to put the body straight back into an anabolic mode and utilise the massive carb intake on Friday and Saturday as muscle glycogen rather than being stored as fat.


Incase you didn't know, Ketosis is what you body goes into when it begins to starve to death. It helps to keep you from dying. You shouldn't try to put your body in Ketosis regardless of the benefits (unless you're a starving Ethopian boy?).


No, ketosis is the state your body goes into when you don't eat enough carbohydrates.

Since carbohydrates are not critical for life (there are essential proteins and fatty acids but no essential carbs), this is a fine state.

If you are eating adequate amounts of fat and protein, ketosis is not harmful at all.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 30 2009 03:30 GMT
#2339
On December 30 2009 12:15 Flow.of.soul wrote:
I'm going to start posting in this thread in the hopes that it will force me to start working out again.

Age: 17 Height 6' 0"
Current Weight: 179
Goal Weight 165
Starting Date: January 1st
Goal Date: April 1st

The idea being to loss 15 more pounds as fast as possible and start to bulk up so that I have some muscle before summer break starts. I started trying to get fit at the beginning of school (beginning of September) and I was at 195 then. I got to 180 in middle of November, but I haven't lost any weight since then because of a vacation to Montreal, then Thanksgiving, then really busy with school work, and now Christmas time.

What I did to lose my initial 15 pounds was to cut out desserts from my diet, only drink water or hot tea without creamer and real sugar, and to go to the gym three times a week doing the treadmill or elliptical machine for 45 minutes. Is there anything else I should be doing?

Right now my diet is pretty bad, I'm snacking all the time but I've been going to the gym 3 to 4 times a week now that I'm on break, so I have not been gaining weight. I tried to cut out snacks from my diet today, but I found I was really hungry throughout the day and could not make it. From my last time cutting out snacks I found the first 3 to 7 days are a real bitch, but after that its pretty easy. Are there any ways to make that process easier?


Post everything you eat in a day and/or week if your intake varies by weekday/weekend.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Flow.of.soul
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States210 Posts
December 30 2009 04:03 GMT
#2340
Breakfast:
Roughly 1.5 cups of plain Cheerios w/skim milk
Yoplait Light yogurt

Lunch:
Fried egg with egg whites (cooked with spray not butter) and cheese on a cinnamon raisin bagel with butter

Two slices of frozen delli pizza from walmart

1/6 pound cheeseburger on whole wheat bun with french fries cooked in the oven

Baked breaded chicken with letuce and shreaded Mexican cheese in a whole wheat tortilla shell

Peanut butter and jelly sandwich on whole wheat bread

Dinner:
Pizza, chicken, and hamburger meals mentioned above

Pasta with plain sauce, with one slice of whole wheat cheese bread

Those are my most common meals, of course it varies week to week with other meals.

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