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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
December 19 2009 04:02 GMT
#2281
oh my god... i am so super sore from this tough workout i did. i have a fitness test on wednesday for the army so i'm going to take easy until then.
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
December 19 2009 13:14 GMT
#2282
googling that exercise eventually brought me to this clip:


I'm about to go to the gym so i don't have time to look into it, but his site looks pretty cool for everyone who is training at home on a budget: http://rosstraining.com/
Here are a lot of articles that show you how to make the stuff at home: http://www.rosstraining.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1056#p1056
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4755 Posts
December 19 2009 14:16 GMT
#2283
On December 19 2009 22:14 Liquid`Meat wrote:
googling that exercise eventually brought me to this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9hk9z1YVcE

I'm about to go to the gym so i don't have time to look into it, but his site looks pretty cool for everyone who is training at home on a budget: http://rosstraining.com/
Here are a lot of articles that show you how to make the stuff at home: http://www.rosstraining.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1056#p1056


Wow, that guy is fit as hell. And kind of creative. Sick video.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
December 19 2009 14:41 GMT
#2284
On December 19 2009 22:14 Liquid`Meat wrote:
googling that exercise eventually brought me to this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9hk9z1YVcE

I'm about to go to the gym so i don't have time to look into it, but his site looks pretty cool for everyone who is training at home on a budget: http://rosstraining.com/
Here are a lot of articles that show you how to make the stuff at home: http://www.rosstraining.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1056#p1056


wow, good find!

This is a how a MAN works out
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
December 19 2009 16:46 GMT
#2285
On August 28 2009 18:26 So no fek wrote:
Winning a CJ shirt that I didn't get signed (no way I'd wear it if it was signed), that I can't comfortably fit into has given me some motivation to lose weight. I've wanted to lose weight for quite some time, but I really have no motivation. Hopefully this will be enough to get me started.

Age: 19 Height: 5'10ish
Current Weight: 195-205lb, I think. Haven't weighed myself in a while, but I fluctuate around that. Probably on the heavier end recently.
Goal Weight - Whatever makes me look good in a CJ shirt, but probably around 160-170lb, with some muscles.
Starting Date: Now.
Goal Date: Next year's Blizzcon at the latest.


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Hard to believe it has been so long since I put my desire to lose weight in this thread. Amazing how easy it is to lose track of time when going to school. Anyhow, as a bit of an update, I'm unfortunately still around the same weight, I think. I don't think I've gained any weight, but I've managed to finally bust out a scale, and I'm at around 220 (T_T).

I didn't really put much effort into losing weight, but finally decided I was going to start eating right, and dieting. I had my last hurrah of junk, and haven't had anything horrendously bad the last few days (fried, fast food, processed foods, etc). I've also been trying to watch what I eat, as I know before I'd just eat whatever I put on my plate, and I've always been a fast eater, so I may eat more than really necessary. So I've been eating smaller portions, more often.

As far as exercise goes, the only exercise I was getting before was the walk from college until my sister picked me up (about 10-20 minutes of walking, at a pretty fast pace) and going up/down a few flights of stairs a few days out of the week. Just never had the time, or desire to do anything more.

Now that I'm on break, and haven't really left the house/done anything the last week or so, I realize how out of shape I am. Walked about 2.3 miles this morning (according to Google, from my house, around the entire block, and back), once again, at a pretty fast walking pace, but not really running too much. I know I'm out of shape, because after the first ten minutes or so, my calves started to burn, and during the last bit of the trek, my toes started tingling a bit.

So I know I'm really out of shape, and I plan to walk every morning, to start, until I can run, as well as fitting in whatever other exercise I can in. It's definitely a slow start (3 months late), but as long as I eat better, and continue to improve, it is A start.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
December 19 2009 17:01 GMT
#2286
Hey, So no fek weight loss is all about proper nutrition. So being conscious about what you eat will take you far! Good luck and ask if you need more help
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4755 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 00:14:32
December 20 2009 00:13 GMT
#2287
I guess now is a good time to join you guys hear. Basically, I've joined you 3 months ago, but did not write anything in here. Let's change that.

Today I just had my last Gym session of the year (since I'm heading to my parents for christmas and won't have access to a gym there. I started to work-out (again) at september 23th. So time to evaluate and set goals for 2010.

Age:26
heigth: 1.80m (5.11)
weight: no idea, too much for a normal scale: should be around 135-140kg (298-309lb) right now (worst was around 155kg (342lb)). So, basically I'm heavily overweight. I guess I will elaborate about that in the future. But I want to add that despite my heavy weight, I have always been a sportive person (4 years of footbal, 9 years of tabletennis, 2 years of american football (but not too seriously, one marathon (yes, really) and several phases of weight lifting and running)

Actual numbers:
Deadlift: 140kgx2 (309lb)
Back Squat: 150kgx5 (331lb)
Bench Press: 100kgx3 (220lb)
Overhead Press: 55kgx4 (121lb)

I actually do not have any real numbers where I startet three months ago. I had never done a Squat or a Deadlift in my life, and just started with those two months ago (and no "real" Overhead Press either). Although Bench Press should have been around 75-80kg (165-176lb) max back then.
Around one month ago, I decided to stop being a pussy and learn the Power Clean. Two days ago I had my first "real" set: 3x50/50/60kg (110/110/132lb). I am pretty sure I could already handle more weight, but my form is still far from perfect, and it would be too risky. I actually look like an alien towards the people in my gym (which is absolutely terrible btw, bad trainers, bad equipment, but its cheap and 2 minutes from my flat): Basically, a fat guy raising a barbell from the floor and jumping up to the air during the process. I'm pretty sure 98% there have never seen a Power Clean before.

If you want to learn the Clean, I found those videos very useful:
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Goals for 2010:
Deadlift: 200kg (440lb)
Squat: 200kg (440lb)
Bench Press: 130kg (287lb)
Overhead Press: 75kg (165lb)
Power Clean: perform with good form, then I will see what I can handle.
Being able to perform Chin-Ups/Pull-ups (too heavy/too weak to do only one right now)

I feel, that the Overhead Press is by far my weakest exercise. Partly I guess because I train it after the Bench-Press, and those two kind of overlap. Right now I am running a two-split program:

Routine 1: Back, Biceps, Forearms
Routine 2: Squat, Chest, Shoulders, Triceps

I recently added a few legs exercises (calf raises, Good mornings, high rep Front Squads) and I feel the workout sessions are getting far too long, concentration slips in the second half etc. Additionally, my Shoulders are under a lot of pressure in routine 2. Their recover quite fast, but I don't feel good during the workout.

So when I get back at the gym in 2010 I'm planning to do three different routines.

Routine 1: Back, Biceps
Routine 2: Chest, Triceps
Routine 3: Legs, Shoulders
(Forearms/grip basically when I have time left)

Each workout would consist of around 5-7 exercises, which is a number I'm really comfortable with.

I feel like routine 3 is kinda weird, but I'm actually feeling pretty good about the idea. I really want to take some stress off my shoulders, and I also think that it is best for improving in the Overhead Press to seperate it from chest-training. Any thoughts on this?

So after all this talk about myself, some advice for lurking overweight/out of shape guys around here (I'm pretty sure, there are some around here who do not feel like posting):
When I first started Deadlifts and Squats (and as has been mentioned around 250times here, you HAVE to do them, most awesome exercises ever), after each set I was at around 175bpm, totally wasted and felt like dying + Show Spoiler +
First time doing those exercises, I thought it was a good idea to do them back to back... so after like 4 sets of DL and 4 sets of Squats for 8-12 reps, still hovering around 150kg bodyweight, for the rest of the day I couldn't do ANYTHING. All my blood was in my quads and lower back... nothing left for my brain. It was crazy)
I then started doing cardio 2 times a week at 60-70% max-pulse for around 90 minutes (although you should be fine with 45-60 minutes). It helped tremendously. When you are really fat and really out of shape, even just lifting some weights is gonna kill you and you may have the attitude "sport is murder" we say so in germany ). Adding low intensity Cardio is making everything much more enjoyable.
If you don't know what 60-70percent of your max-pulse is: If you are around 20-25years old, you will be fine with ~130bpm.

So that's it for now. I have a lot more what I could talk about, like nutrition and why this time I choose strength-training for weight loss etc, but I guess this is enough for now

One last comment tho: I feel SO MUCH better than 3 months ago, it is not even funny. Standing up instead of rolling out of my bed is only one of the many things I could mention
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
December 20 2009 03:07 GMT
#2288
Malinor:

If I were you I'd go with an intermediate template such as Bill Starr's 5x5 intermediate or Texas method or something similar.

You're a bit beyond linear progression, but going to a weird split probably won't work as effectively as full body work still.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 20 2009 03:21 GMT
#2289
why do abs workouts have to hurt so much
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 20 2009 12:09 GMT
#2290
Meh... just took some body measurements.

Last time was 24th May.

Weight: 74kg (163lb)

Biceps: 12.75 inches (32.4cm)
Waist: 32 inches (81.3cm)
Hip: 32.5 inches (82.5cm)
Forearm: 10.5 inches (26.7cm)
Chest: 37 inches (94cm)
Neck: 14 inches (35.6cm)
Thighs: 21 inches (53.4cm)
Calves: 15 inches (38cm)

Currently: (20th December)

Weight: 70kg (154lb)

Biceps: 13.25 inches (33.65cm)
Waist: 32 inches (81.3cm)
Hip: 32.5 inches (82.5cm)
Forearm: 11 inches (28cm)
Chest: 39 inches (99cm)
Neck: 14.5 inches (36.8cm)
Thighs: 21.5 inches (54.6cm)
Calves: 15.5 inches (40cm)

--

I don't know what my figures should have been, but that doesn't seem that great to me. Then again I have no basis for comparison. I have more knowledge about exercise and nutrition this time around so I will check my progress again in 6 months time and see if I can do any better.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 20 2009 12:12 GMT
#2291
On December 20 2009 12:21 jfazz wrote:
why do abs workouts have to hurt so much


Because it's such a small muscle group. I love the delayed aches from ab workouts, it even hurts to laugh.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 12:39:21
December 20 2009 12:35 GMT
#2292
A progress photo, I might make a full collage of all my progress photos throughout the last 2 years, but for now.

November 2007 and November 2009.

[image loading]

"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
December 20 2009 13:22 GMT
#2293
thats amazing dude, you should be VERY proud. Well done, very inspirational...now just to hit print
Victory needs no explanation, defeat allows none
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20167 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-20 17:21:57
December 20 2009 17:21 GMT
#2294
On December 20 2009 21:35 Energies wrote:
A progress photo, I might make a full collage of all my progress photos throughout the last 2 years, but for now.

November 2007 and November 2009.
[spoiler]
[image loading]



I'd say nice job but you're wearing a ton of clothes so you don't even look remotely out of shape in any of the photos :-p
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
December 21 2009 00:20 GMT
#2295
lol, cool. But there is a difference of 55lb in those photos.
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20167 Posts
December 21 2009 00:25 GMT
#2296
On December 21 2009 09:20 Energies wrote:
lol, cool. But there is a difference of 55lb in those photos.


Lol yeah i know, but you did a good job of hiding it until the last one :-p
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4755 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 09:28:11
December 21 2009 09:22 GMT
#2297
On December 20 2009 12:07 eshlow wrote:
Malinor:

If I were you I'd go with an intermediate template such as Bill Starr's 5x5 intermediate or Texas method or something similar.

You're a bit beyond linear progression, but going to a weird split probably won't work as effectively as full body work still.


Texas Method looks quite enjoyable to me. spent a few hours yesterday researching various programs. I think I will order the book Practical Programming, sounds awesome. Don't think it is available in germany though, has to be shipped all the way I guess

And these programs definitly looks better than what I had planned. Just need to find a way to organize my support-exercises (which basically means get rid of most of them and focus on some good ones like Good Mornings). It's always hard for me to cut exercises out. Normally I just add an extra one every few eaks until I have workouts which last like 2 hours and aren't really productive, nor fun.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20167 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 09:31:36
December 21 2009 09:29 GMT
#2298
On December 21 2009 18:22 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2009 12:07 eshlow wrote:
Malinor:

If I were you I'd go with an intermediate template such as Bill Starr's 5x5 intermediate or Texas method or something similar.

You're a bit beyond linear progression, but going to a weird split probably won't work as effectively as full body work still.


Texas Method looks quite enjoyable to me. spent a few hours yesterday researching various programs. I think I will order the book Practical Programming, sounds awesome. Don't think it is available in germany though, has to be shipped all the way I guess

And these programs definitly looks better than what I had planned. Just need to find a way to organize my support-exercises (which basically means get rid of most of them and focus on some good ones like Good Mornings). It's always hard for me to cut exercises out. Normally I just add an extra one every few eaks until I have workouts which last like 2 hours and aren't really productive, nor fun.


Yeah i've been doing a 5x5 plan for the most part and its been working out quite well, i'd recommend you give it a shot. I'm not really following any routine per se, but i'm basically just doing either squat + RDL or deadlift + various leg work for my leg days (5x5 for squats/rdls/deadlifts) and then for upper body doing 5x5 of bench/standing push press/barbell row and then a few sets of dips and pull ups till failure. I usually add in core work on lower body days.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
December 21 2009 09:42 GMT
#2299
decided to change my goals. don't really have the resources for bulking atm, not to mention i don't have squats or deads in my routine so i might as well just try and lean out. going for something like losing 5lbs of fat within the next 1-2 months or so.
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 18:07:38
December 21 2009 18:05 GMT
#2300
So, im posting my current workout schedule. I would like advice on it (mainly from eshlow since he has experience with isometric progressions). My goals are

primary: planche and front lever progression. running faster and for longer.

secondary: getting fit as hell in any way possible


warmups before each strength workout. strength workouts in the morning, running in the afternoon.



Monday:

Planchex3, Front Lever x3, some kind of hard core exercise(today it was dragon flags x3), Pushupsx5(varying styles)

Afternoon 1.5m uphill run



Tuesday:

Front Leverx3, Planchex3, Legs(if not bodyweight squats then pistols, or jumping, or somethin), huge volume of pullups


Wednesday:

Legs, Some kind of core endurance routine, then yoga


Thursday:

repeat monday


Friday:

repeat tuesday


Saturday:

some kind of intense core workout, fast paced enough to also be an aerobic workout


Sunday:

yoga
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