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On December 10 2009 04:47 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2009 02:24 phyre112 wrote:
Question;
Since I've come to university, I've been working out with friends; they're a combination of PE majors, exercise science majors, and plain old hardcore gym rats. The majority of the exercises they do are for the upper body, and I'm cool with that - I can squeeze in legs on my own time, but it seems like no matter the exercise we're doing, I "feel it" mainly in my tricep and bicep, regardless of where the exercise is targetted (shoulder, chest, upper back, etc.)
Is this more likely to be a problem with my form, or just that my arms are THAT far behind where they should be? I'm 6'3, around 160 pounds and rather....long. I know I'm far from where I could/will be, but is this normal?
(I realize you probably can't tell me for sure, I'm just asking if this happens from time to time. And if you need any info, just ask.) yeah it's most likely because you actually use your arms too much in for example exercises like row, where you should pull with your back. You're probably benching heavily with triceps as well Learn proper form, connect with the muscle the the exercise is designed for and work out arms separately, there's really no reason not to unless you want to be an elitist stronlift bad-ass in front of your buddies on the internet.
I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. It may be the reason, but it also could be that your arms are just much weaker compared to the targeted muscles.
Push-ups for example: It is common for many people that the pain and soreness is located in the shoulders and triceps, while you do not feel your chest at all. That basically means that those muscles need to catch up first.
I always pay much attention to keep very good form, and especially after longer breaks from the gym, my arms are more sore than the targeted muscles for certain exercises (i.e. Lat-Pulldowns; Seated Cable Rows).
However, listen to Foucault, make sure that you do the exercises right. Let your arms do as little work as possible (unless you are training arms  ), check your form in the mirror etc. If you are doing everything right and still feel it more in your arms then anywhere else, you just have to push through.
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my g-parents are neatos. they bought me whey protein, a jump rope and a pullup/dip bar
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i am maxing out snatch and clean and jerk tomarrow! wish me luck 
i am hoping i dont fuck up my snatch. My form is so inconsistant. And hopefully i dont fuck up my jerk. 
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On December 10 2009 03:26 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2009 02:24 phyre112 wrote:
Question;
Since I've come to university, I've been working out with friends; they're a combination of PE majors, exercise science majors, and plain old hardcore gym rats. The majority of the exercises they do are for the upper body, and I'm cool with that - I can squeeze in legs on my own time, but it seems like no matter the exercise we're doing, I "feel it" mainly in my tricep and bicep, regardless of where the exercise is targetted (shoulder, chest, upper back, etc.)
Is this more likely to be a problem with my form, or just that my arms are THAT far behind where they should be? I'm 6'3, around 160 pounds and rather....long. I know I'm far from where I could/will be, but is this normal?
(I realize you probably can't tell me for sure, I'm just asking if this happens from time to time. And if you need any info, just ask.) More details on the workouts, like what lifts do you mostly do?
In particular I'm talking about bench press (and variations - incline, rarely decline, bench with dumbbells) for chest, general overhead/military press for shoulders, T-bar rows and compound rows for back. These are the most common things they've got me doing, and we mix in other exercises now and again. I've been lifting for maybe a month and a half now, and I know my form isn't the greatest, but after my second time to the gym I screwed up my lower back with the wrong form on a military press; had me barely able to walk for two days. So everytime I lift, I concentrate very specifically on mt form, and ask if I have the smallest question.
I'm really thinking it's my arms that are behind, because I notice the biggest increase in what I'm able to lift ~4 days after a particularly hard workout on my arms, but I'm just wondering if this is normal for someone just getting into lifting.
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On December 11 2009 12:54 AoN.DimSum wrote:i am hoping i dont fuck up my snatch..
It probably doesn't speak well for my maturity that i found this hilarious.
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On December 11 2009 13:24 phyre112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2009 03:26 decafchicken wrote:On December 10 2009 02:24 phyre112 wrote:
Question;
Since I've come to university, I've been working out with friends; they're a combination of PE majors, exercise science majors, and plain old hardcore gym rats. The majority of the exercises they do are for the upper body, and I'm cool with that - I can squeeze in legs on my own time, but it seems like no matter the exercise we're doing, I "feel it" mainly in my tricep and bicep, regardless of where the exercise is targetted (shoulder, chest, upper back, etc.)
Is this more likely to be a problem with my form, or just that my arms are THAT far behind where they should be? I'm 6'3, around 160 pounds and rather....long. I know I'm far from where I could/will be, but is this normal?
(I realize you probably can't tell me for sure, I'm just asking if this happens from time to time. And if you need any info, just ask.) More details on the workouts, like what lifts do you mostly do? In particular I'm talking about bench press (and variations - incline, rarely decline, bench with dumbbells) for chest, general overhead/military press for shoulders, T-bar rows and compound rows for back. These are the most common things they've got me doing, and we mix in other exercises now and again. I've been lifting for maybe a month and a half now, and I know my form isn't the greatest, but after my second time to the gym I screwed up my lower back with the wrong form on a military press; had me barely able to walk for two days. So everytime I lift, I concentrate very specifically on mt form, and ask if I have the smallest question. I'm really thinking it's my arms that are behind, because I notice the biggest increase in what I'm able to lift ~4 days after a particularly hard workout on my arms, but I'm just wondering if this is normal for someone just getting into lifting.
Yeah i would imagine its not too uncommon for you to have parts of your body that are stronger then the others when you first start lifting. Over time they should catch up/even out with good form. And don't forget to do your squats/deadlifts
Benched yesterday and was able to put up 5x5 at 205 225 225 225 205, so i'm pretty happy with my increase from 185 205 205 215 225 in just a week. Hopefully i'll be able to get up 225 for all five sets next week. Also hoping to squat 400, or close too it next week. Gona start trying to get my bent over rows as high as my bench and hopefully be able to do a more respectable number of pullups/dips
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On December 11 2009 13:31 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2009 12:54 AoN.DimSum wrote:i am hoping i dont fuck up my snatch.. It probably doesn't speak well for my maturity that i found this hilarious.
i did fuck up my snatch
Went for 85kg snatch and didnt punch out.....
at least i finally hit 100kg clean and jerk....
EDIT
american open is on right now!!!!
http://www.weightlifting.teamusa.org/live.html live stream
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On December 11 2009 13:24 phyre112 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2009 03:26 decafchicken wrote:On December 10 2009 02:24 phyre112 wrote:
Question;
Since I've come to university, I've been working out with friends; they're a combination of PE majors, exercise science majors, and plain old hardcore gym rats. The majority of the exercises they do are for the upper body, and I'm cool with that - I can squeeze in legs on my own time, but it seems like no matter the exercise we're doing, I "feel it" mainly in my tricep and bicep, regardless of where the exercise is targetted (shoulder, chest, upper back, etc.)
Is this more likely to be a problem with my form, or just that my arms are THAT far behind where they should be? I'm 6'3, around 160 pounds and rather....long. I know I'm far from where I could/will be, but is this normal?
(I realize you probably can't tell me for sure, I'm just asking if this happens from time to time. And if you need any info, just ask.) More details on the workouts, like what lifts do you mostly do? In particular I'm talking about bench press (and variations - incline, rarely decline, bench with dumbbells) for chest, general overhead/military press for shoulders, T-bar rows and compound rows for back. These are the most common things they've got me doing, and we mix in other exercises now and again. I've been lifting for maybe a month and a half now, and I know my form isn't the greatest, but after my second time to the gym I screwed up my lower back with the wrong form on a military press; had me barely able to walk for two days. So everytime I lift, I concentrate very specifically on mt form, and ask if I have the smallest question. I'm really thinking it's my arms that are behind, because I notice the biggest increase in what I'm able to lift ~4 days after a particularly hard workout on my arms, but I'm just wondering if this is normal for someone just getting into lifting.
I just started working out three months ago and I don't feel it in my chest or back while doing any exercises, but my chest and back do get sore, so I dunno.
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Bleh, exam period sucks hardcore, I had literally no time to work out. Now that it's (almost) over, I can finally resume
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Good man, get back into it!
making good shoulder progress, the weights are starting to be much lighter, and ill be going up on the weights next week
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On December 11 2009 13:31 ghermination wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2009 12:54 AoN.DimSum wrote:i am hoping i dont fuck up my snatch.. It probably doesn't speak well for my maturity that i found this hilarious.
lol dito! :D
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exam season does suck... i'm probably going to get really out of shape during winter season. i have to go back to singapore so i won't even get to ski/snowboard this year. QQ
i had another swim meet this weekend and i actually did decent this time. wohoo!
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On December 11 2009 13:40 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2009 13:24 phyre112 wrote:On December 10 2009 03:26 decafchicken wrote:On December 10 2009 02:24 phyre112 wrote:
Question;
Since I've come to university, I've been working out with friends; they're a combination of PE majors, exercise science majors, and plain old hardcore gym rats. The majority of the exercises they do are for the upper body, and I'm cool with that - I can squeeze in legs on my own time, but it seems like no matter the exercise we're doing, I "feel it" mainly in my tricep and bicep, regardless of where the exercise is targetted (shoulder, chest, upper back, etc.)
Is this more likely to be a problem with my form, or just that my arms are THAT far behind where they should be? I'm 6'3, around 160 pounds and rather....long. I know I'm far from where I could/will be, but is this normal?
(I realize you probably can't tell me for sure, I'm just asking if this happens from time to time. And if you need any info, just ask.) More details on the workouts, like what lifts do you mostly do? In particular I'm talking about bench press (and variations - incline, rarely decline, bench with dumbbells) for chest, general overhead/military press for shoulders, T-bar rows and compound rows for back. These are the most common things they've got me doing, and we mix in other exercises now and again. I've been lifting for maybe a month and a half now, and I know my form isn't the greatest, but after my second time to the gym I screwed up my lower back with the wrong form on a military press; had me barely able to walk for two days. So everytime I lift, I concentrate very specifically on mt form, and ask if I have the smallest question. I'm really thinking it's my arms that are behind, because I notice the biggest increase in what I'm able to lift ~4 days after a particularly hard workout on my arms, but I'm just wondering if this is normal for someone just getting into lifting. Yeah i would imagine its not too uncommon for you to have parts of your body that are stronger then the others when you first start lifting. Over time they should catch up/even out with good form. And don't forget to do your squats/deadlifts Benched yesterday and was able to put up 5x5 at 205 225 225 225 205, so i'm pretty happy with my increase from 185 205 205 215 225 in just a week. Hopefully i'll be able to get up 225 for all five sets next week. Also hoping to squat 400, or close too it next week. Gona start trying to get my bent over rows as high as my bench and hopefully be able to do a more respectable number of pullups/dips
I did 5x5 at 225, pretty happy with my progress
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Christmas and my birthday are both coming up, so I have pretty much stopped caring. I am eating healthy enough and going to the gym enough so I gain no weight, but if I want to have some cake or 5 beers, I just go for it. No longer have a six pack but I seem to be happier.
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On December 13 2009 15:00 Energies wrote:
Christmas and my birthday are both coming up, so I have pretty much stopped caring. I am eating healthy enough and going to the gym enough so I gain no weight, but if I want to have some cake or 5 beers, I just go for it. No longer have a six pack but I seem to be happier.
Yeah i'm really gonna cut loose during winter break but I'll work hard afterwards because I want to break some school swimming records.
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Yeah I know what you mean, I have been eating out a lot recently...I guess I don't mind that much, it doesn't stop muscle gain.
Christmas chocolates, sweets and food in general is very nice! Hoping for final chest and shoulder gains for the year, before setting new goals in the new one.
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put down 5x5 at 315 for squats...i think i'm going to try to hit 400 squat and 300 bench this week. Lofty goals...ones i didn't expect to hit for several more weeks, but i'd like to see if i can hit them.
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On December 01 2009 13:31 jfazz wrote:Welcome back Energies, I hope you had a fantastic trip, you should do a blog entry about it for us SO, Dec 1 time, as promised...UPDATE! It has been 6months of self improvement, so what have I done, and going into next year, what needs to be done? Key Indicators; Starting: Chest- 90cm Stomach- 66cm Biceps- 24cm Weight- 61kg Max Bench Press- 55kg (lol) Current: Chest- 97cm Stomach- 71cm Biceps- 28cm Weight- 69kg Max Bench Press- 80kg Body Fat%- about 8% Goals for 2010! Chest- 100+cm! Biceps- 30+cm! Stomach- 68cm Weight- 70+kg Max Bench Press- 100kg (aww YEAH!) SO...what we have all been waiting for, PHOTOS: These were taken on October 5, when my stats were; Weight - 69kg Chest - 97cm Waist - 74cm Bicep - 27cm AND NOW, the big reveal, two months of progress: AND what I want to look like in the near future  It could happen. Im off to have a protein shake.
About time someone post a PICTURE instead of NUMBERS!!
respect
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Haha thanks mate
Good gains so far this week, I feel ready to move up on my bench press
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My Birthday is December 21st. I am going to get fully back into it by the 5th of January. I promise that by March 2010 I will be a disgustingly ripped baller nerd.
Edit: need to stay accountable
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