EPT2024 - 2026 Football Thread - Page 146
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DropBear
Australia4409 Posts
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r00ty
Germany1080 Posts
On June 30 2026 18:06 gTank wrote: Nagelsmann said he is there for the Euro as long as someone basically fires him ... Was he always that delulu (at bayern e.g.) or is this new? Also he blamed Undav after the game in the interviews?!?!?! XD He was like this since Hoffenheim. He's an arrogant know-it-all and blames everyone but himself, mostly the refs. I think the decision to take back the goal was questionable by the ref regarding how other situations in the goalie zone were handled over the tourney. It was a very strict interpretation of the rule. But with that team on paper you can't blame it on that decision. With 4-5 supposedly world class players it shouldn't go to overtime. Yeah they played deep and closed the center, who would have thought? On June 30 2026 17:14 Harris1st wrote: No emotions, no plan, no mentality. Not much more to add. | ||
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justanothertownie
16327 Posts
On June 30 2026 18:06 gTank wrote: Nagelsmann said he is there for the Euro as long as someone basically fires him ... Was he always that delulu (at bayern e.g.) or is this new? Also he blamed Undav after the game in the interviews?!?!?! XD He definitely hit new lows with the national squad. Still, as mentioned earlier, I think he was probably right about Undav/not starting him and instead using him as a super sub. Undav contributed next to nothing against Paraguay (of course he is not alone with that - Sane and Nmecha also had shockers, for example). But the Neuer farce was an unforced error. Nagelsmann is a good coach but his man management is not elite. Edit: Does not change that the decision to overturn the goal was a disgrace. Absolutely not in line with the way the game had been refereed up until it happened. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7277 Posts
On June 30 2026 20:58 justanothertownie wrote: He definitely hit new lows with the national squad. Still, as mentioned earlier, I think he was probably right about Undav/not starting him and instead using him as a super sub. Undav contributed next to nothing against Paraguay (of course he is not alone with that - Sane and Nmecha also had shockers, for example). But the Neuer farce was an unforced error. Nagelsmann is a good coach but his man management is not elite. Edit: Does not change that the decision to overturn the goal was a disgrace. Absolutely not in line with the way the game had been refereed up until it happened. I'm not sure if it was Henry or not, but someone basically said with this kind of referee, Arsenal would have been relegated xD Nagelsmann is not a good coach. Plan A was questionable, Plan B or C was non-existent. Undav did barely get any support. No pass at all and the crosses were horrible. All Germany did was play side to side in slow motion then proceed to lose the ball under no pressure whatsoever. That is NOT good coaching. And don't get me startet on his interviews and stuff. No wonder German media compared him to a stubborn toddler. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4752 Posts
On June 30 2026 12:41 Liquid`Drone wrote: I think there's truth to that the difference between the best and second best is smaller than it used to be, but I don't think we've seen an actual shift in the power balance, even though I've seen stuff like '9/10 teams from Africa advanced' cited as evidence. Morocco looks like a top team (they did four years ago as well), and Senegal and Ivory Coast look good - but no better than various African teams from different world cups since 1990. Basically, what we see is a combination of two different factors - one, that a lot of teams are good enough defensively to get a draw against a superior side. In a bo1 knockout tournament, this is enough to pose a danger to most sides. Secondly, the format means a lot more of those teams advanced - and it gives us one more round of bo1 knockout, meaning we get more chances for upsets. With only top 2 advancing, we'd have five African teams in this stage, not 9,and no Ecuador or Paraguay. Only Egypt, Morocco and Ivory Coast would have say real shot at going far. I've posted this before but - winning teams are almost always lucky. I've watched every wc since 1990 and I think Brazil in 2002 was clearly the best team in the tournament. France in 2018 managed to win without needing extra time or penalties (a rare occurrence), but easily could've lost in the ro16 against Argentina. Other than these two, there's always a game or two that could easily have flipped the other way. However, this means that the best teams need to win a sequence of weighted flips, where they have between 75% and 50% chance to win each flip, while the 'bad' teams need to win several 25%s in a row. It's entirely possible for Colombia to reach the semi (they also have a very beneficial draw), but they aren't going to face Paraguay when they get there. Maybe we're looking at a change in the sense that mid-tier teams have increased their win chance from 15-20% to 25-30%, but I'm still fairly confident our final top 4 will have at least three from the 'traditional contenders' - France, Spain, Argentina, Brazil, England, Portugal. Morocco (or nld, typing this right as penalties are about to start), Colombia or even US, or Norway (  ) have a fighter's chance. But most likely we're not getting a debutant finalist this year either.2002 I don't disagree with your assessment that Brazil was the best team. However, I want to add two things. First the disallowed goal from Belgium in their Ro16 match against Brazil. Most observers agreed back then that this was a clear goal and should have stood. It was 36th minute, so plenty of time to fight back. But based on your argument, their title also had a very lucky moment. Second comment regarding 2002 has nothing to do with your argument, but that World Cup sucked. The level of play was horrific. Brazil in my memory also wasn't very impressive that year. Germany was terrible that WC and had a 50:50 chance in the finals, up until the Kahn moment. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands4002 Posts
And fielding 11 strong, fast, powerful guys that have been drilled tactically gets you a long way. Countries like Bosnia and Switzerland have always been like this a bit, but nowadays African countries can do it too, since they no longer have guys that are trying to build their highlight reel in order to earn a transfer. Ecuador has shown in qualifiers how well it works too. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18675 Posts
On June 30 2026 18:06 gTank wrote: Nagelsmann said he is there for the Euro as long as someone basically fires him ... Was he always that delulu (at bayern e.g.) or is this new? Also he blamed Undav after the game in the interviews?!?!?! XD Yeah Nagelsmann singling out Undav after Germany was eliminated was another low point in this farce of a manager... | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10497 Posts
Also lol. Germany and Netherlands out in round one already. | ||
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Slydie
1959 Posts
Edit: and there was the goal. Should have been 3 in the first half alone. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28831 Posts
Also Norway is in a state of collective euphoria. If we beat Brazil, I'm guessing April 5th 2027 is gonna be a popular birthday. That Nusa goal.. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10497 Posts
On July 01 2026 06:56 Liquid`Drone wrote: France looks fantastic going forward. Not rock solid defensively but their attacking power is unrivaled. I hope they get to the finals at least- definitely the most entertaining team in the wc to me. Also Norway is in a state of collective euphoria. If we beat Brazil, I'm guessing April 5th 2027 is gonna be a popular birthday. That Nusa goal.. A starting 4 of Mbappe, Dembele, Doue/Barcola, and Olise is just absurd to have. Their firepower is simply unmatched. Then you have Doue/Barcola and Cherki off the bench as well. Even guys like Mateta and Thuram are serviceable. | ||
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