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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28830 Posts
15 hours ago
#2881
Also Brazil isn't actually that great of a team right now. They do have some world class players, of course, but they went 8-4-6 in their qualifier. Two draws to Venezuela, losing against Paraguay and Bolivia.. after qualifying, they've lost friendlies to Japan and France, drew Tunisia, beat Korea and Panama and senegal.. if you look at their results the past years, they're a team that should be happy to reach quarter finals
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18674 Posts
13 hours ago
#2882
It's so frustrating as a Japan fan... It's always these stupid crosses...
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2625 Posts
12 hours ago
#2883
Also what was the idea at the end of the game, crossing the ball against bigger brazilian defenders doesnt look good to me. Japan put a good fight though during the rest of the game.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4344 Posts
12 hours ago
#2884
On June 29 2026 19:42 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2026 06:32 KobraKay wrote:
On June 28 2026 23:13 sharkie wrote:
On June 28 2026 23:00 KobraKay wrote:
On June 28 2026 10:31 GTR wrote:
country of portugal are probably begging for ronaldo to do an acl or something because at this rate he's never going to get subbed off


half the country is absolutely blind and the rest are too scared to say anything different because they will be flamed and harassed.

Imagine a scenario where he scored 2 goals against a bunch of friends and family team (sorry Uzbek friends, im exagerating to make a point) and already people wrote "Ronaldo shutting up half the world!!!!"...."haters got a taste of what it feels like to doubt the goat"...ffs any ball that got to him yesterday was directly a wasted pass that resulted in a counter from colombia.

If i was gonçalo ramos right now i'd go to the beach as there is zero chance he will get a game this WC, specially as long as our NT coach is in negotiations to be the next manager in Ronaldo's saudi team.

Colombia is a good side, dont take me wrong and i think they will do some damage still this WC; but that is a team that we should beat 8/10 and not end the game with our GK and 2 CBs being our best players on the pitch.

I'd love to hear an argument in favour of ronaldo right now, because otherwise we are playing with 10 (actually 9.5 if we count the coach's fetish player, Neto).

On the bright side, i dont think i've been so "invested" in football discussion since Porto last won an Europa league and i stopped caring as much...but its painful seeing a good generation of players being wasted and this blind cronaldo fanboyism coming back.



Why do you think Portugal should beat Colombia 8/10? Colombia is one of the top sides. With or without Ronaldo Portugal - Colombia is 50-50 for me.

Also what does it mean to waste a good generation? Portugal haven't won anything pre-Ronaldo. It's impossible to say to if they are going to win something after him.Portugal has always been one of those close but no cigar sides


Yes we did. We had to injury Ronaldo to win an Euro.
We never had such a talented group of players in our history, much better than that 2016 team and a step above the 2004 one, and that is why this is wasteful.
The last couple of decades we always had most if not all of our best players in big teams but now we have them in the best teams and actually being decisive and not just a few of them.
Not even going to comment on that 50/50 as that is just lack of knowledge.
And yes the problem is not just Ronaldo that is the only part i agree with.

He was benched in Qatar for good reason but the coach was then fired after that WC (he was not great but still better than Martínez).


How far does Colombia have to go in this WC for you to apologise for saying that my 50-50 is lack of knowledge?


That is irrelevant to the point. Portugal won in 2016 being a terrible side on the pitch despite overall strenght, and we dont even need to go back to Greece right?

It was not meant to be offensive or anything like that, but Colombia is not the same as Portugal so that a 50/50 becomes an acceptable take. And to the below poster, France is for sure more than 70% favoured against colombia. Again, colombia is a very good side like i said earlier, but its not just slightly below top teams to be given those odds.

I wouldnt see France losing to Colombia ever, bar one of those freak of nature games, let alone 3 or 4 out of 10.

Btw claiming i have bias for Portugal is funny if you actually knew me or spent a little bit of time with me :D but given the context we are in this thread and my claim, I fully understand where you are coming from, its not the case at all, but i respect the notion. Just wanted to share that to keep us in good spirits

No point in bickering about this...Portugal will likely tie or fail against Croatia, we will get rid of Martinez, Neto and Cronaldo and life will go on.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28830 Posts
12 hours ago
#2885
You have to remember that knockout football means that drawing gets you extra time and drawing extra time gives you penalty shootout. Give me France against Colombia in a champions league format and France wins almost every time, but a single wc game? 70-30 is pretty close imo. Japan- Brazil was readily close to extra time. Paraguay is up vs Germany after the first half. South Africa was horrid, still almost extra time against a slightly better Canada.

I'll be shocked if Cape Verde knocks out Argentina. I think every single other match-up is less than 80-20, because at this level, every team can do a pretty good job at defending for 90 minutes and possibly pulling off a good counter attack or dead ball.
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mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4174 Posts
10 hours ago
#2886
Lol germany
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28830 Posts
10 hours ago
#2887
Lol was about to make the exact same post
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mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4174 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-29 23:56:34
9 hours ago
#2888
What I’ve observed in this World Cup is either a misplaced preconception or a shift in performance dynamics. Conventionally, you’d expect sides like Portugal or Germany to stand head and shoulders above most South American or African teams. Yet, the reality is that gap isn’t holding. Is it that European teams are genuinely underperforming, or have we simply overestimated them? The gap has clearly narrowed. As a Colombian, I’d normally assume Portugal should outperform us more often than not, but we comprehensively outplayed them in the last match. The question is: is the skill level converging, or have we just been overvaluing certain teams?

Because in the end, history and the weight of the jersey do matter. Colombia, after all, only claimed one relatively modest Copa América back in 2001, and that was without Argentina in the mix. We only recently finished as runners-up in the last Copa América. When it comes to World Cups, Brazil 2014 was arguably our finest squad. Honestly, I had no concrete expectations for this year’s team, because you never know—James underperforms at club level but excels for Colombia. Historically, our defenders haven’t been top-tier either, yet in this tournament, Lucumí and Dávinson Sánchez have delivered world-class performances. So, for us Colombians, this team’s level has been a very welcome surprise.

But I strongly believe france would crush us 9 out of 10 times
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9881 Posts
9 hours ago
#2889
On June 30 2026 08:51 mAKiTO wrote:
What I’ve observed in this World Cup is either a misplaced preconception or a shift in performance dynamics. Conventionally, you’d expect sides like Portugal or Germany to stand head and shoulders above most South American or African teams. Yet, the reality is that gap isn’t holding. Is it that European teams are genuinely underperforming, or have we simply overestimated them? The gap has clearly narrowed. As a Colombian, I’d normally assume Portugal should outperform us more often than not, but we comprehensively outplayed them in the last match. The question is: is the skill level converging, or have we just been overvaluing certain teams?

Because in the end, history and the weight of the jersey do matter. Colombia, after all, only claimed one relatively modest Copa América back in 2001, and that was without Argentina in the mix. We only recently finished as runners-up in the last Copa América. When it comes to World Cups, Brazil 2014 was arguably our finest squad. Honestly, I had no concrete expectations for this year’s team, because you never know—James underperforms at club level but excels for Colombia. Historically, our defenders haven’t been top-tier either, yet in this tournament, Lucumí and Dávinson Sánchez have delivered world-class performances. So, for us Colombians, this team’s level has been a very welcome surprise.

But I strongly believe france would crush us 9 out of 10 times

For me, we've seen it also in the last couple of years of the Premier League.
The effectiveness to which 'lesser' teams can employ the low block against a range of modern day tactical setups is absolutely absurd. It has equalized the game significantly at the top level.
I'm sure the big teams will figure out a way around it eventually.
RIP Meatloaf <3
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18674 Posts
6 hours ago
#2890
lol Germany
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28830 Posts
5 hours ago
#2891
I think there's truth to that the difference between the best and second best is smaller than it used to be, but I don't think we've seen an actual shift in the power balance, even though I've seen stuff like '9/10 teams from Africa advanced' cited as evidence. Morocco looks like a top team (they did four years ago as well), and Senegal and Ivory Coast look good - but no better than various African teams from different world cups since 1990.

Basically, what we see is a combination of two different factors - one, that a lot of teams are good enough defensively to get a draw against a superior side. In a bo1 knockout tournament, this is enough to pose a danger to most sides. Secondly, the format means a lot more of those teams advanced - and it gives us one more round of bo1 knockout, meaning we get more chances for upsets. With only top 2 advancing, we'd have five African teams in this stage, not 9,and no Ecuador or Paraguay. Only Egypt, Morocco and Ivory Coast would have say real shot at going far.

I've posted this before but - winning teams are almost always lucky. I've watched every wc since 1990 and I think Brazil in 2002 was clearly the best team in the tournament. France in 2018 managed to win without needing extra time or penalties (a rare occurrence), but easily could've lost in the ro16 against Argentina. Other than these two, there's always a game or two that could easily have flipped the other way.

However, this means that the best teams need to win a sequence of weighted flips, where they have between 75% and 50% chance to win each flip, while the 'bad' teams need to win several 25%s in a row. It's entirely possible for Colombia to reach the semi (they also have a very beneficial draw), but they aren't going to face Paraguay when they get there. Maybe we're looking at a change in the sense that mid-tier teams have increased their win chance from 15-20% to 25-30%, but I'm still fairly confident our final top 4 will have at least three from the 'traditional contenders' - France, Spain, Argentina, Brazil, England, Portugal. Morocco (or nld, typing this right as penalties are about to start), Colombia or even US, or Norway () have a fighter's chance. But most likely we're not getting a debutant finalist this year either.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28830 Posts
5 hours ago
#2892
What a shootout lol.

Feels like players are extra nervous this tournament.
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6288 Posts
5 hours ago
#2893
Koeman out. Haven't won against a good team for years with this trash coach.
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1079 Posts
4 hours ago
#2894
:D

Nagelsmann already said he's not going to resign. The right answer would have been "we have to question everything". He basically had promised the title after the Euros exit. I didn't expect much and got exacly that.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-30 06:10:24
4 hours ago
#2895
I think the "low block'" is one factor. Lesser themas have had success with the "compact defense-effective counterattacks" style for decades, but now, everyone has adopted it

I think the main reason is that the difference between top- and mid- level pro players and coaches is just not that big.

Add to that that European teams have to travel far and play in an unfamiliar country.

The grass has caused trouble for most of the teams. One weak pass where the grass stops the ball quicker than expected, and you get punished.

I love that all teams and players have to prove themselves! A team with 10x the club salaries can easily lose!
Buff the siegetank
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51629 Posts
1 hour ago
#2896
incredible that every match of the knockouts so far has either had a winner in injury time or has gone to pens.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7274 Posts
1 hour ago
#2897
Germany can be pretty happy with that showing:
Best WC result since 2014 while playing like absolut dogshit. No emotions, no plan, no mentality.
And we can even blame the ref which is great so we don't have to change anything for the next tournament...
Nagelsmann shoting himself in the foot every chance he gets. A shame really. He started out so strong but now he needs to admit defeat and GTFO.
Maybe bring Sandro Wagner back as headcoach. He has that Zlatan mentality at least
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2625 Posts
27 minutes ago
#2898
Nagelsmann said he is there for the Euro as long as someone basically fires him ...
Was he always that delulu (at bayern e.g.) or is this new? Also he blamed Undav after the game in the interviews?!?!?! XD
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
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