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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 07:31:54
February 28 2022 07:31 GMT
#1841
On February 28 2022 16:05 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2022 05:18 Pandemona wrote:
On February 28 2022 05:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:48 Pandemona wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:30 sharkie wrote:
Another trophy for Klopp!

How to build a sustainable winning team in the biggest league in the world surrounded by billionaires and their spending sprees :D

Ahh right so Van Dijk, Allison and Keita are regular sums of money for players i see.

No idea how Lukaku was given offside. they gave it for his arm lol, feel a bit robbed there. Was great game though and kepa's pen was fkn awful lol.

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It was a fantastic game. And yeah, that decision is debatable.

100% for neutral that game must been very good, even for me i don't mind losing it really both teams played well, i thought we had the better chances and more of them but Liverpool had some good spells in that game too without creating as clear cut chances. Very good advert for the carabao cup for sure and a good final, for a 0-0 lol

On February 28 2022 04:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:53 Pandemona wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:50 sharkie wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:48 Pandemona wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:30 sharkie wrote:
Another trophy for Klopp!

How to build a sustainable winning team in the biggest league in the world surrounded by billionaires and their spending sprees :D

Ahh right so Van Dijk, Allison and Keita are regular sums of money for players i see.


If I earn money (aka sell players) I can buy stuff (aka buy players)

The net spending still out weights that though? That's complete fake news lol. Sold Coutinho for 120 million and Van Dijk cost 80, Allison 70 and Keita 60? Do the maths sir, let alone the Jota, Konate and Dias signings to boot etc. Spent £80 million two windows in a row. Not saying they are City levels or Yanited levels but to be naiave to say they do not spend money to win is wrong, they were a very good offensive side struggling for top 4 until they spent on van dijk and allison very well of course.


They have sold other players too.

You are just jelly Chelsea couldnt get Klopp :D

Oh i am not jealous of Klopp at all, he is nearly as bad as Arteta on the side of the pitch shouting at ref and linesman every 10 seconds.

He has net spent 169 million in 3 years lol


No international football matches will be played in Russia and the Russian flag and anthem will be banned from any of their matches abroad, governing body FIFA said this evening.

It said the national team would not compete as Russia but as the Football Union of Russia (RFU) and any games would be held with no fans on "neutral territory", as part of its sanctions following Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Poland has responded and still wont play vs them and want fifa to do more which i agree with to be fair.

wtf is this? how does changing the name of the national team make any difference? am i missing something

They just copied the Olympics. You saw how great this worked.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7427 Posts
February 28 2022 13:09 GMT
#1842
Poland and Sweden have said they don't care how many renames the Russian team does and where the games are played. They are not playing
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 14:26:16
February 28 2022 14:25 GMT
#1843
Meeting has been moved up to today at 5pm.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 28 2022 16:02 GMT
#1844
According to Tagesschau FIFA is banning Russia from the WC quals / WC.

This was probably unavoidable, as the looks of having them win by forfeit vs Czechia/Poland/Sweden would have been terrible. And other nations cancelling their WC participation in that case would have been an absolute PR desaster.

I still don't believe FIFA has any little bit of spine in their back, but those teams did really play their cards well, because even the most hardcore FIFA press speaker would not have found any way to defend this.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14215 Posts
February 28 2022 16:26 GMT
#1845
On February 28 2022 16:31 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2022 16:05 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On February 28 2022 05:18 Pandemona wrote:
On February 28 2022 05:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:48 Pandemona wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:30 sharkie wrote:
Another trophy for Klopp!

How to build a sustainable winning team in the biggest league in the world surrounded by billionaires and their spending sprees :D

Ahh right so Van Dijk, Allison and Keita are regular sums of money for players i see.

No idea how Lukaku was given offside. they gave it for his arm lol, feel a bit robbed there. Was great game though and kepa's pen was fkn awful lol.

[image loading]

It was a fantastic game. And yeah, that decision is debatable.

100% for neutral that game must been very good, even for me i don't mind losing it really both teams played well, i thought we had the better chances and more of them but Liverpool had some good spells in that game too without creating as clear cut chances. Very good advert for the carabao cup for sure and a good final, for a 0-0 lol

On February 28 2022 04:55 sharkie wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:53 Pandemona wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:50 sharkie wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:48 Pandemona wrote:
On February 28 2022 04:30 sharkie wrote:
Another trophy for Klopp!

How to build a sustainable winning team in the biggest league in the world surrounded by billionaires and their spending sprees :D

Ahh right so Van Dijk, Allison and Keita are regular sums of money for players i see.


If I earn money (aka sell players) I can buy stuff (aka buy players)

The net spending still out weights that though? That's complete fake news lol. Sold Coutinho for 120 million and Van Dijk cost 80, Allison 70 and Keita 60? Do the maths sir, let alone the Jota, Konate and Dias signings to boot etc. Spent £80 million two windows in a row. Not saying they are City levels or Yanited levels but to be naiave to say they do not spend money to win is wrong, they were a very good offensive side struggling for top 4 until they spent on van dijk and allison very well of course.


They have sold other players too.

You are just jelly Chelsea couldnt get Klopp :D

Oh i am not jealous of Klopp at all, he is nearly as bad as Arteta on the side of the pitch shouting at ref and linesman every 10 seconds.

He has net spent 169 million in 3 years lol


No international football matches will be played in Russia and the Russian flag and anthem will be banned from any of their matches abroad, governing body FIFA said this evening.

It said the national team would not compete as Russia but as the Football Union of Russia (RFU) and any games would be held with no fans on "neutral territory", as part of its sanctions following Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Poland has responded and still wont play vs them and want fifa to do more which i agree with to be fair.

wtf is this? how does changing the name of the national team make any difference? am i missing something

They just copied the Olympics. You saw how great this worked.

Due to their doping ban this would have had to happen anyway as well.

Hopefully we'll see Russia booted from WCQ and the women euros. Its just impossible to see them being held in a nation where none of them are allowed in. UEFA has sprung in a new team last minute before.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 17:41:01
February 28 2022 17:38 GMT
#1846
FIFA, world soccer’s global governing body, has decided to impose an indefinite ban on Russia and its teams, ejecting the country from qualifying for the 2022 World Cup only weeks before it was to play for one of Europe’s final places in the tournament.

FIFA’s decision, which will be announced on Monday evening, came a day after the organization was heavily criticized for not going far enough in punishing Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. On Sunday, FIFA had proposed a series of sanctions against Russia — including a temporary ban on its name, flag and national anthem, and a prohibition on its hosting international matches — amid demands from several national federations for stronger action.

The initial pressure to bar Russia came from Poland, Sweden and the Czech Republic, which faced the prospect of games against Russia in the World Cup playoff. Other countries and officials, including the federations in France, England and the United States, quickly said they would not play against Russia under any circumstances.

Officials from European soccer’s governing body, UEFA, will join FIFA in issuing and honoring the ban.

Ukraine’s team, which is set to play Scotland in its own World Cup playoff, will remain in the competition.

FIFA and UEFA decided to bar Russia only hours after the International Olympic Committee called for international sports federations to prohibit Russian athletes and teams from all global sporting events where possible. The Olympic officials said Russia had breached a commitment — known as the Olympic Truce, and signed before the start of the Beijing Winter Games and scheduled to run through the Paralympics that start this week — by invading Ukraine.

The immediate consequence of the ban on Russia is that it will have to forfeit its place in a four-team group for one of Europe’s final places for the World Cup. Poland, which was scheduled to play Russia in March, had said it would refuse to play the game, a stance it repeated after FIFA announced its initial slate of penalties on Sunday night. Sweden and the Czech Republic, the teams that could have met Russia in a final game if the Russians beat Poland, issued the same warning.

Cezary Kulesza, the president of Poland’s soccer federation, called FIFA’s initial decision not to eject Russia “totally unacceptable.” In a post on Twitter, he added: “We are not interested in participating in this game of appearances. Our stance remains intact: Polish National Team will NOT PLAY with Russia, no matter what the name of the team is.”

The indefinite ban on Russia also extends to its club teams, meaning that Spartak Moscow, its last remaining participant in a continental competition, will no longer be able to compete in its Europa League knockout out game against Germany’s RB Leipzig. That match was already in doubt before Monday’s decision, with officials unsure how the Russian team could travel after the European Union issued a blanket ban on Russian flights into the 27-member bloc.

It remains unclear if the decision to exclude Russia will face a challenge in the courts. Russia, as well as some of its athletes, have in recent years successfully fought exclusion from other events, including the Olympic Games, by getting punishments watered down through appeals to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 20:20:33
February 28 2022 20:20 GMT
#1847
what would happen if Kepa scored? bench players take penalties since all 22 field players have scored? coin flip?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 20:29:02
February 28 2022 20:27 GMT
#1848
On March 01 2022 05:20 Dingodile wrote:
what would happen if Kepa scored? bench players take penalties since all 22 field players have scored? coin flip?

It starts back at 1 as the song goes haha.

So it would restart at sudden death with all 11 players able to take pens again but you can change the order, so instead of Salah and Jorginho being 5th pen takers respectively in the original shootout they would get to comeback as the "1st" on the reset for pen 12.



Also thankfully FIFA and UEFA have confirmed the outright ban on all Russian clubs and national teams from world football, big move and much better than the crap they gave us yesterday. Also fair play to Czech, Sweden and Poland being extremely vocal in refusing to play them in their world cup qualifying knockout mini bracket tournament thing!
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 02 2022 16:48 GMT
#1849
Chelsea is up for sale.

LONDON — Roman Abramovich, the Russian oligarch whose vast fortune transformed Chelsea into a global soccer powerhouse, is actively seeking to sell the team, setting a deadline of Friday for interested parties to submit “indicative offers” for the club he has owned for almost two decades. He is seeking at least $2.5 billion for the club.

Only days ago, Abramovich, 55, had announced his intention to transfer the “stewardship and care” of Chelsea to members of its charitable foundation. The move — in which he notably did not suggest he would surrender ownership of Chelsea — was seemingly designed to distance the club from the impact of any possible sanctions levied by the British government against him as a result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Britain this week proposed new legislation targeting wealthy Russians like Abramovich, many of whom amassed their fortunes through cronyism or ties to Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin, and then shielded it overseas behind shell companies and opaque investment deals.

Though Abramovich suggested in a rare public statement that the Chelsea foundation trustees were best placed to “look after the interests of the club, players, staff and fans,” he has in recent days tasked the Raine Group, a New York advisory firm, with identifying a new owner for the team. Prospective investors have been informed they must have prepared an outline of their bid by the end of this week.

Their number includes Hansjörg Wyss, a Swiss billionaire noted for his support for progressive causes, who told the Swiss newspaper Blick that he was among a group of four people to have “received an offer to buy Chelsea” on Tuesday. Wyss insisted that he would not buy the club alone, and would prefer to be a part of a consortium of “six or seven investors.”

“Abramovich is trying to sell all his villas in England; he also wants to get rid of Chelsea quickly,” Wyss told Blick. “Abramovich is currently asking far too much. You know, Chelsea owe him £2 billion. But Chelsea has no money. As of today, we don’t know the exact selling price.”

Another contender, Todd Boehly, a billionaire investor and a part-owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers, reportedly offered Abramovich $2.9 billion for Chelsea in 2019. The current price is believed to be around $2.5 billion, though there is speculation that it will fall lower still if Abramovich’s urgency to part with the team grows.

Chelsea had been directing interested parties toward Raine whenever groups attracted by the glamour of owning the London team made contact. But until this week, Abramovich had shown little appetite for selling.

That has changed with notable speed. Abramovich has been named on several occasions as a suitable target for sanctions in Britain’s parliament since Putin commanded Russian forces to attack Ukraine last week.

Chris Bryant, a lawmaker for the opposition Labour party, this week claimed that Abramovich was hastily trying to sell off his British property portfolio in anticipation of his assets being frozen, and asked if he should be allowed to continue owning a soccer team. On Wednesday, Keir Starmer, the Labour party leader, directly asked the prime minister, Boris Johnson, why Abramovich had not yet been targeted.

Abramovich has always claimed, often with the support of lawyers, that he has no connection to Putin and nothing to do with politics. On Monday, his private representative was reported to have suggested — without evidence — that he had been asked to try to negotiate a peace settlement in Ukraine. The comments came only days after officials close to Abramovich suggested the billionaire had no role in politics or close ties to Putin.

Abramovich has owned Chelsea since 2003, having bought the team seemingly on a whim — negotiations, the story went, took place over a single weekend — and for reasons that have remained opaque. He had previously considered moves for Arsenal, Tottenham and Fulham, as well as examining the possibility of buying teams in Spain and Italy, but why he settled on soccer at all has never been adequately explained. Abramovich does not give interviews.

He arrived at Chelsea when it was at a comparatively low ebb, struggling to qualify for the Champions League and without a domestic championship in half a century. But the infusion of his personal fortune, amassed through his stake in the Russian oil giant Sibneft and his interests in the country’s aluminum industry, changed that almost immediately.

Abramovich bankrolled some of the most lavish spending in soccer history, attracting a rotating cast of stars to Stamford Bridge and kick-starting a decades-long inflationary spiral that only a handful of other clubs have been able to match. Under his ownership, Chelsea has won five Premier League titles, two Champions League crowns — most recently last May — and, only a few weeks ago, the Club World Cup.

Abramovich, who has rarely seen his team in England over the last few years after withdrawing his application for a British visa in 2018, joined his players on the field in Abu Dhabi to celebrate their most recent trophy, just as he had when it won the European title in Portugal last May.

The team’s most recent accounts provided a clear illustration of how Abramovich’s wealth has been able to subsidize huge losses in order to keep the team successful: Chelsea lost more than $200 million on its way to that second Champions League title last season. Abramovich is estimated to have invested something in the region of $2 billion in the club — interest-free loans worth about 10 times the price he paid for the team — since acquiring it in 2003.

His announcement on Saturday that he intended to hand the “care” of Chelsea to the trustees of its charitable arm, indicated that he was sufficiently worried by the prospect of the freezing of his assets in Britain to try to limit its impact on the club. The move was so surprising to those trustees that several are believed to have expressed their concerns to the Charity Commission, Britain’s charity regulator, which confirmed that it had opened a “serious incident report” in the aftermath of Abramovich’s unilateral announcement. Staff members are similarly bewildered at the pace of events.

The charity trustees, who were told of the plan only hours before it was made public on Saturday, held a meeting a day later with a specialist lawyer hired by Chelsea. It quickly emerged that moving responsibility for Chelsea into the charity would not be easy, or perhaps not even possible.

“We have contacted the charity seeking information and, in line with our guidance, the charity has also made a report to the commission,” the Charity Commission said in a brief statement.

A person with direct knowledge of the talks, though, said the concerns, and the obstacles, were clear. “Legally the objective of the charity is to provide community football, support young people and run some minor football facilities, that’s all it is,” the person said. “It can’t run a £1.5 billion football club with professional footballers and staff. It’s not equipped for that.”

Once it became clear that moving the club into the charity would be a protracted process that could eventually fail, and with suggestions that sanctions could be imminent, Abramovich and his advisers sought a new plan: a sale.


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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14215 Posts
March 02 2022 19:02 GMT
#1850
Hes getting far ahead of any sanctions on him and will cash out before anything falls down on him. He can weather any storm in Portugal and then Isreal if the EU decides to sanction him more directly.

Tieing any profit he gets past the few billion dollars he's owed in loans from the team to a ukranian charity is a clever move to avoid anyone trying to lowball him on the price.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-02 19:03:40
March 02 2022 19:03 GMT
#1851
What an awful day, the best owner a supporter could wish for is ousted due to the decision of his president, in which he hasn't residing in for over 20 years lol. Thanks for everything Roman you are amazing!

His Farewell

Moreover, I have instructed my team to set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated. The foundation will be for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
March 02 2022 20:07 GMT
#1852
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
March 02 2022 22:00 GMT
#1853
On March 03 2022 04:03 Pandemona wrote:
What an awful day, the best owner a supporter could wish for is ousted due to the decision of his president, in which he hasn't residing in for over 20 years lol. Thanks for everything Roman you are amazing!

His Farewell

Show nested quote +
Moreover, I have instructed my team to set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated. The foundation will be for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery.


I am pretty sure he could just leave Russia forever and denounce Putin publicly? I think he chose his president over the club tbh
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
March 02 2022 22:52 GMT
#1854
On March 03 2022 07:00 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2022 04:03 Pandemona wrote:
What an awful day, the best owner a supporter could wish for is ousted due to the decision of his president, in which he hasn't residing in for over 20 years lol. Thanks for everything Roman you are amazing!

His Farewell

Moreover, I have instructed my team to set up a charitable foundation where all net proceeds from the sale will be donated. The foundation will be for the benefit of all victims of the war in Ukraine. This includes providing critical funds towards the urgent and immediate needs of victims, as well as supporting the long-term work of recovery.


I am pretty sure he could just leave Russia forever and denounce Putin publicly? I think he chose his president over the club tbh

I don’t think oligarchs with reputed links to Putin are going to get off by publicly about-turning at this stage.

Abramovich is both mysterious and extremely, extremely litigious on the topic of any connection to Putin, how he made his money etc. To the degree I’ve heard journalists say there’s rather a lot that editors have sat on rather than publish.

My guess is various intelligence agencies have all the actual dirt, and have had it for quite some time on what the oligarchs have done and are up to.

They would have happily sat on this, the likes of London would have continued to be Moscow 2.0 for the oligarch class in perpetuity. There’s never really been the political will to do anything on this issue.

Except Putin fucked the pooch to the degree that forced various sanctions. Against Russia and against those ex pats associated with him, probably many who aren’t are going to be hit, and they’re going to be hit hard.

If even half of what I’ve read about Abramovich is remotely true, oh no boo hoo it’s the consequences of one’s actions.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2117 Posts
March 03 2022 08:57 GMT
#1855
One curious detail is that the Abramovich statement actually describes the conflict as a war. I guess they may have decided it's no use trying to sugarcoat it as something else in an international statement mostly read outside Russia, but it may also be indication of some distancing from Putin.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
March 03 2022 09:19 GMT
#1856
On March 03 2022 17:57 Bacillus wrote:
One curious detail is that the Abramovich statement actually describes the conflict as a war. I guess they may have decided it's no use trying to sugarcoat it as something else in an international statement mostly read outside Russia, but it may also be indication of some distancing from Putin.

It is worth noting for those that aren’t aware that Abramovich’s mother (I think, certainly a close relative) is Ukrainian.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18762 Posts
March 03 2022 09:29 GMT
#1857
Anyway let's talk about how good Takumi Minamino (a Japanese) has been for Liverpool this season!!
Hes finally showing what he can do. Vital player in both cup competitions!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 03 2022 21:48 GMT
#1858
Rumours are we getting Dodgers stakeholder and the Swiss man as a group purchase, hmmm. At least Dodgers man wants to win at least so maybe he will give us what we require!
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Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
March 04 2022 08:24 GMT
#1859
Careful not to get Glazers 2.0
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
March 05 2022 06:31 GMT
#1860
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