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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 10 2021 17:24 GMT
#1761
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-10 22:49:09
April 10 2021 22:48 GMT
#1762
Today clásico was the best one I've seen in several years. What a match.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 11 2021 02:02 GMT
#1763
Too bad nobody could effing watch it in the states.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2021 11:53 GMT
#1764
Same in England lol. La Liga rights were never given out in the end
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-11 12:33:21
April 11 2021 12:28 GMT
#1765
Related issue is the price of the football packages on tv. I think I can get three or four streaming services with for the same price as the channel that shows premier league here in Finlans. National team football is on the same package but champions league or europa league won't be so I'd have to get another package for those. Same for the domestic football. The tv broadcasts are pricing themselves out of the market it feels.

I did a quick check and it would be around 70€ per month a minimum for watching both premier league and champions league from tv here. It's a lot of money over 12months.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
April 11 2021 12:49 GMT
#1766
On April 11 2021 21:28 Oukka wrote:
Related issue is the price of the football packages on tv. I think I can get three or four streaming services with for the same price as the channel that shows premier league here in Finlans. National team football is on the same package but champions league or europa league won't be so I'd have to get another package for those. Same for the domestic football. The tv broadcasts are pricing themselves out of the market it feels.

It’s a tricky one in the UK , BT Sport’s foray and strategy into loss-leading and pulling people into the BT ecosystem have inflated things quite considerably.

For the consumer this isn’t exactly ideal, as per usual with bigger TV deals the clubs have spent accordingly to keep competitive and along with the effects of the pandemic, dropping down to a lower rate in the future could be horrendous.

These kind of bulk packages across multiple platforms aren’t ideal for one’s pockets, on the other hand an alternative where games are doled out individually and TV money goes to the clubs by a proportion of demand would quickly gut the competitiveness of the Premier League.

Hopefully smart heads can prevail, it does feel that the market has peaked as per traditional TV viewing, but a reversion to the market value along with Covid related economic issues would crush a lot of clubs. Giving clubs more freedom to sell their own games would give the bigger clubs an unassailable economic advantage as things stand.

I’m not sure about elsewhere but at least in the UK the viewing figures of the Champions League are pretty terrible until we hit the latter stages, and usually need an English presence there to really fill them up. This isn’t such a big deal for BT as it’s part of a strategy to get people onto other BT services, but certainly would be for other potential bidders in the future.

Makes me baffled by the proposed changes to the Champions League, the Champions League doesn’t have the novelty factor it did in the 90s, where it was the place to see these European teams strut their stuff. It doesn’t have the level of competitiveness it did either at the ro32 stage. Even Ferguson’s early United title winning teams had a difficult time back then.

Adding more games, dead rubbers and little sense of jeopardy to a competition that already has problems in this regard already makes little sense to me. Not just because it bores me but the viewing figures rather indicate it’s very much not me sitting alone in that camp.

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2021 13:07 GMT
#1767
I hate BT so much for this as well, they have the fucking worst pundits and commentators as well which annoys me more so. I am just hoping Amazon gets off its ass now and flexes its stupid billions and puts both Sky and BT in their place and takes everything.

At the moment you have to pay in the UK;
£30 for BT Sport for champions league/Europa league and some premier league games
£25 for Premier league on sky sports including international football
Amazon get some games now too which i already have prime but that is £70 a year i think too?

So all in all to watch the premier league you are paying £60 odd a month to have access to it all.
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
April 11 2021 13:15 GMT
#1768
On April 11 2021 22:07 Pandemona wrote:
I hate BT so much for this as well, they have the fucking worst pundits and commentators as well which annoys me more so. I am just hoping Amazon gets off its ass now and flexes its stupid billions and puts both Sky and BT in their place and takes everything.

At the moment you have to pay in the UK;
£30 for BT Sport for champions league/Europa league and some premier league games
£25 for Premier league on sky sports including international football
Amazon get some games now too which i already have prime but that is £70 a year i think too?

So all in all to watch the premier league you are paying £60 odd a month to have access to it all.


And in non-pandemic times they still wouldn't even include all matches. The Saturday 3pm broadcast limitation is such a stupid rule in my eyes. I don't think many clubs in the top flight would see more empty seats if all those games were broadcasted normally.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
April 11 2021 13:19 GMT
#1769
BT have great presenting talent I find, be it Football Italia legend James Richardson or the many football journalists and broadcasters they use, Sky go much more down the ex-pro route. Different approaches, which honestly I like because if you’re going to have two broadcasters showing the same product there may as well be some differences thrown in.

I think ultimately football is doomed for relative neutrals if what most consumers want actually happens. A lot of fans if given the option would happily just pay for their team’s games, which would just see the current big teams with the big fan bases shit on the smaller teams from a rather great height.

The best halfway house measure is the existing model (at least for the Premier League), but spread out across less providers I guess.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4439 Posts
April 11 2021 13:23 GMT
#1770
Mike Dean is a donkey.

Australia it's $14.99 a month for entire EPL, Champions League and Europa League (about 8.3 pound) along with some Internationals and the World Cup when it's on.

Can get La Liga, Ligue 1, Bundesliga and Serie A on the other major sports streaming service which is $25 a month. (13.9 pound). Not too bad overall. Must be the only time something is cheaper in Australia.
Sucker for nostalgia
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2021 14:17 GMT
#1771
On April 11 2021 22:19 WombaT wrote:
BT have great presenting talent I find, be it Football Italia legend James Richardson or the many football journalists and broadcasters they use, Sky go much more down the ex-pro route. Different approaches, which honestly I like because if you’re going to have two broadcasters showing the same product there may as well be some differences thrown in.

I think ultimately football is doomed for relative neutrals if what most consumers want actually happens. A lot of fans if given the option would happily just pay for their team’s games, which would just see the current big teams with the big fan bases shit on the smaller teams from a rather great height.

The best halfway house measure is the existing model (at least for the Premier League), but spread out across less providers I guess.

Oh i was talking exclusively about the premier league / champs league coverage sorry in which BT shove, Mcmanaman and Owen down my throat all the time in which Mcmanan on commentary is awful and Owen just has no idea. Rio, Hoddle and Linekar are fine though i like their views but jesus. Oh and Scholes haha poor mans Keane as a punditry xd


Also wtf Leicester are going to THROW it away again, they are getting spanked by West Ham right now. West Ham aren't playing amazing but Leicester are just folding, a 50 yard long ball over the top against Leicester back 3 and its 2 on 2 tap in for 2-0 and then just 3 passes through the heart of Leicester and the holes in the back 3 are HUGE.

As it stands

3rd to 5th (Leicester to Chelsea) is 2 points different, with Chelsea having to play both West Ham and Leicester still. Leicester in a world of trouble throwing top 4 chances late again.
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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4439 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-11 16:02:49
April 11 2021 15:19 GMT
#1772
Tomas Soucek is surely in with a shout for EPL player of the year. He's an absolute gun. They'll give it to Gundogan or Fernandes probably but I think Soucek deserves it.

Lost count of the number of crosses Leicester put into the box only for him to win the header in dominant fashion, then before you know it he's halfway up the pitch pressing or passing.
Sucker for nostalgia
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28914 Posts
April 11 2021 16:31 GMT
#1773
Really don't agree with overturning that united goal over that 'foul' against Son.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2021 16:34 GMT
#1774
Having discussion with Sneirac and while it is the softest of fouls, we don't understand why VAR are intervening as it not a clear and obvious error.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
April 11 2021 16:34 GMT
#1775
that var decision was fking bullshit. we might as well make football a full non contact sport now fucks sake
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 11 2021 17:26 GMT
#1776
Well thankfully that VAR rubbish didn't influence the game too much.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
April 11 2021 17:30 GMT
#1777
LETS GOOOO
justice!!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 11 2021 17:47 GMT
#1778
That win for me cements Yanited top 4 finish, keeps a slight hope of a title push alive with City form as well. City still having to play Chelsea in the run in etc maybe some more possible dropped points on the horizon for them.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28914 Posts
April 11 2021 17:54 GMT
#1779
something like a 1% shot of city losing 3 of the remaining 6 and united winning all theirs, but it is in the realm of possibility!

United dropping out of top 4 is about as likely as them winning it all, imo.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-11 18:18:53
April 11 2021 18:17 GMT
#1780
True it is a bit of a long shot but City have a lot of games. Dortmund midweek, cup final vs Spurs weekend after next. Semi final vs Chelsea next weekend. Then semi final of the champs league u would expect 2 legs of that. Lots of games.

Speaking of which there was actually a good question put to Tuchel this week in his press conference, asking him if April and May are the months in which managers earn their wages, which is very true now for the likes of Pep who has 4 competitions to play for. Tuchel having a top 4 race, fa cup and champs league to battle in.
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