EPT2018 - 2019 Football Thread - Page 99
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ortseam
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28738 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On January 09 2019 02:57 Liquid`Drone wrote: wolves has some very good players but they also have a pretty 'new' team. It's just the type of team that ends up being inconsistent but with a really high peak level, and one that often shines against top teams. And given the nature of their roster its no surprise because its somewhat characteristic of teams from the peninsula now that I think about. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Barella and Parades be good replacements though. Think Barkley has another level or two in him though. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18208 Posts
I don't think it's a clear and obvious error in either case (except maybe to biased Chelsea fans). | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
When in doubt, decisions like this should go to the attacking team, as it stands in the rulebook. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2015 Posts
On January 09 2019 19:14 Acrofales wrote: Tough call. You're translating a 3d situation into a 2d image, on which you draw a line. I'd say only Kane's hand/arm is over that line, and that makes him onside... I don't think it's a clear and obvious error in either case (except maybe to biased Chelsea fans). Here's another angle (at 50 seconds) that argues Kane being onside: . I don't think you can say for sure unless there's a camera right on the actual line. Or bird eye perspective or something. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
Meanwhile the FA doesn't explain what system they use and offers one grainy angle that is not conclusive at all and then Sarri comes in with another grainy picture that isn't a conclusive angle either. And considering that he did this in front of press and it is essentially the same thing as calling the ref a failure if he gets fined it is going to further feed into the annoying chelsea persecution complex. | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2015 Posts
On January 09 2019 21:56 sneirac wrote: Bundesliga uses an automated system that determines offside as a simple yes/no decision, this malfunctioned once during the first day usage (and was not used in any game because of the failure) and has worked without flaws since. Meanwhile the FA doesn't explain what system they use and offers one grainy angle that is not conclusive at all and then Sarri comes in with another grainy picture that isn't a conclusive angle either. And considering that he did this in front of press and it is essentially the same thing as calling the ref a failure if he gets fined it is going to further feed into the annoying chelsea persecution complex. As much as I respect the assistant referees, offisides are indeed supposed to be a binary and conclusive yes/no questions rather than something up to interpretation. In that sense automated system could do the job and do it up to perfection. Any idea how the automated system copes with stuff like the passive offside rules, weird bounces and all that? Is that still up for the ref to decide? | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On January 09 2019 22:15 Bacillus wrote: As much as I respect the assistant referees, offisides are indeed supposed to be a binary and conclusive yes/no questions rather than something up to interpretation. In that sense automated system could do the job and do it up to perfection. Any idea how the automated system copes with stuff like the passive offside rules, weird bounces and all that? Is that still up for the ref to decide? Yup those would still be judgment calls. If you have a passively offside player possibly interfering the system would be determined if there is an offside position in the first place and then the VAR and likely the referee himself would look at it to determine if it was enough for active offside or not. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Surely then the decision should be to stick with the onfield call as it is "to hard to tell" onside/offside which was in fact deemed offside by the official. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
There was no onfield call because it wasn't the NFL where that part matters. Also we saw 2 angles, one that looked like it was onside, sarri with the one that showed offside. Benefit of the doubt goes to the attacker = no offside was the correct call | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Why she was dumb enough to share this with Twitter and not an attorney. No idea. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On January 09 2019 23:23 Pandemona wrote: Ok with that being said on the decision, the linesman flag goes up and he calls it offside. Chelsea players STOP and point to the official and then Kane is brought down by the goalkeeper. Surely then the decision should be to stick with the onfield call as it is "to hard to tell" onside/offside which was in fact deemed offside by the official. You are kidding right ? What are players doing looking at the linesman in that situation ? Play to the whistle ? | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
On January 10 2019 00:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: More problems for Ronaldo: https://twitter.com/Jasminelennard/status/1082703664299630592 Why she was dumb enough to share this with Twitter and not an attorney. No idea. Woman plus social media...Nowadays we call it attention whore, most of them just surfing web for this reasons. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On January 10 2019 02:27 Dav1oN wrote: Woman plus social media...Nowadays we call it attention whore, most of them just surfing web for this reasons. I would respectfully suggest that we keep these sorts of conversations private before peoples sensibilities and opinions start getting out of hand. These conversations never end well and I dont know what Stealth was trying to achieve by sharing it. But nothing good will come of this discussion. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On January 10 2019 02:01 Rebs wrote: You are kidding right ? What are players doing looking at the linesman in that situation ? Play to the whistle ? Whistle is blown when referee notices flag which coincides with the foul that happens. The flag goes up, why would you continue to run knowing flag is up for offside? xD | ||
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