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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18051 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 15:38:42
July 06 2017 15:32 GMT
#581
i watched Kobe predominantly do the left leg only landing later in his career.
no big surprise here:when you injure your right leg you favour your left leg...

compensating for an injured joint is why starting pitchers are instantly pulled... and when they are not the manager is in hell if the pitcher gets any other kind of injury later in the year. the slightest change in mechanics leads to injuries.

For completeness,

aging is always factor. as you age your tissues lose some degree of flexibility. add all these factors together and you get a torn achilles tendon and a totally messed up left leg.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
July 06 2017 15:37 GMT
#582
On July 07 2017 00:22 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2017 00:17 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
bad landing mechanics cause leg injuries. we've been over it before.

Bryant had right knee surgeries in 2003, 2006 and 2010. He started landing more and more on his left leg as the right knee surgeries piled up.


Yes you have posted videos where they show highlights of people landing poorly. There could be some truth to it. But Kobe is the worst example in the world since he was durable as hell. It is also not something you came up with and is unrelated to what was posted above where you posted it. It's just one of the go too stupid things you post when you feel the need to "contribute"

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On July 07 2017 00:17 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Your general trolly style aside, there is truth to this.

As a Lebron fan, I admit his greatness lies elsewhere. I realized something while I was watching the finals with friends. In sure-to-win games, or in the first three quarters, Lebron will produce monster numbers. But when the game is on the line, Lebron is not deadly at all. He is a great player, but he does not command the same fear and respect other killers do, like MJ, Kobe, and Durant. Coaches and players have long known Kobe as a deadly clutch player, hence the automatic double and triple teams. We are lucky that Kobe has the ego to shoot and make difficult shots over double and triple teams, the classic Kobe shot. It's good for "spectatorship". The great JVG said it best, "The GOAT argument is controversial, the most skillful player argument is debatable, but there is no doubt that Kobe is the greatest difficult shotmaker of all time." Mike Breen and Mark J could barely contain their awe and laughter after hearing that.

Although the thing that surprises me from your post is the assist-to ratio. I think this has to do with Kobe being wiser and having better handles. Lebron's playmaking is different from traditional playmaking of say Stockton and CP3 in the sense that they manipulate, bend, and unravel the defense on the dribble while actively forcing and allowing the play to develop and make the best pass. In Lebron's case, no one is threatened of being crossed or shimmied by him so most perimeter coverage is single. Lebron makes his plays by pounding hard into the paint and attracting the double and from there, it is simply a matter of finding the open man.


I always find it funny when people say LBJ sucks because Kobe/MJ did this or vice versa. None of them suck they are all stratospheres above your average player. But yes others did somethings better then the other ones, it makes the GOAT discussion both interesting and impossible.

I agree with the first comment. That conclusion is completely not scholarly. I'm sure someone diligent enough could compile footage of players with bad landing mechanics but do not suffer injury late in their careers. And conversely, players with good mechanics who have significant foot injuries.

I agree wholeheartedly to your second comment. GOAT argument is never objective. It is silly to compare players who never played against each other, as it is even difficult to compare players who are contemporaries. It is a fun discussion though.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 15:43:31
July 06 2017 15:38 GMT
#583
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18051 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 15:42:48
July 06 2017 15:42 GMT
#584
On July 07 2017 00:37 Twinkle Toes wrote:
conclusion is completely not scholarly. I'm sure someone diligent enough could compile footage of players with bad landing mechanics but do not suffer injury late in their careers. And conversely, players with good mechanics who have significant foot injuries.

it doesn't need to be scholarly. i'm just a kobe fan who watched him compensate for his oft injured right leg for years... and surprise surprise.. his left leg broke down.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
July 06 2017 15:43 GMT
#585
This guy is a walking logical fallacy encyclopedia.
If it's not false data that he does not understand, it's anecdotes, rumors, and blatant lies. Just ignore him.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 15:50:02
July 06 2017 15:47 GMT
#586
Lol JimmyC. I was planning on doing something like that, glad you did it better than I would have.
Could you believe it, HE HAS BEEN WATCHING KOBE LAND ON HIS LEFT LEG WAY BEFORE THAT VIDEO.
Damn liar. I'd rather a loud mouth offensive troll than an ignorant know-it-all.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18051 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 15:50:24
July 06 2017 15:47 GMT
#587
no real rebuttal eh?
i watched kobe play a lot because i'm a big kobe fan.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 06 2017 15:49 GMT
#588
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
July 06 2017 15:49 GMT
#589
By the way, thanks for that video JimmyC. I'm woke. I've known it since before today, just that it confirmed my knowledge.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18051 Posts
July 06 2017 15:53 GMT
#590
if you want to claim i didn't watch Bryant closely during his career you're just speculating. he was a big star; polarizing and fascinating to watch. so i watched him intently. very entertaining player.

or is it compensating for injured joints that has u riled up this badly?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
July 06 2017 15:54 GMT
#591
Your lies and ignorance are rebuttal enough.
Why do you embarrass yourself like this man?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18051 Posts
July 06 2017 15:58 GMT
#592
1. no idea what you think i'm lying about.
2. most adults are liars which is why match-fixing in sports and esports happens so much and so even if i'm lying its not that big a deal

i'd rather talk about the NBA than me though.
so i prefer this go to PM.
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Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
July 06 2017 16:02 GMT
#593
On July 07 2017 00:54 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Your lies and ignorance are rebuttal enough.
Why do you embarrass yourself like this man?

Because he is a shameless lying troll. all he wants is attention. his posts here are cringeworthy and straight dumb.

kobe played 20 fruitful years of competitive basketball. that is the reason for his injuries, and not some whack 2-bit shit you found on the internet
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 16:04:07
July 06 2017 16:03 GMT
#594
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18051 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-06 16:04:41
July 06 2017 16:04 GMT
#595
On July 07 2017 01:02 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
kobe played 20 fruitful years of competitive basketball. that is the reason for his injuries, and not some whack 2-bit shit you found on the internet

do not pull my comments out of context. aging is always a factor as i've stated. and to play that long.. you of course get older.
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Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
July 06 2017 16:07 GMT
#596
Going back, 4th quarter, 15 seconds left, opponents up by 1, who would you rather have the ball, kobe or lebron?
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
July 06 2017 16:10 GMT
#597
Make a poll
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18051 Posts
July 06 2017 16:11 GMT
#598
On July 07 2017 01:07 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
Going back, 4th quarter, 15 seconds left, opponents up by 1, who would you rather have the ball, kobe or lebron?

nice change of subject LOL.

pre34Kobe > LBJ > 34+Kobe
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
July 06 2017 16:14 GMT
#599
OKC is looking decent, btw. nice FA moves after all
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
July 06 2017 16:15 GMT
#600
Kobe all day, everyday
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