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On January 04 2017 12:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i wonder if Andrew Wiggins can play as well as Richard Jefferson did during the peak of his career 
Richard Jefferson is strong 4 or light 5 on my scale. Comparing his peak during Nets years ('05-'08 respectively) and Wiggins in today Wolves is basically really lazy basketball analysis. I expected more from JJ, probably something that he backs up with his honestly enviable knowledge of injuries.
About the old coasting conversation - LBJ had some really nice performances during december. I hope he can keep the momentum going.
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what's a strong 4 or light 5? lol
im hoping youre not referring to positions
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I think JJ is just glad he's not the whipping boy for once.
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Richard Jefferson is shooting 29% outside of the restricted area. His jumpshot can't hit the side of a barn. Can someone please tell me why this forum hypes him so much?
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On January 05 2017 03:21 JimmiC wrote:
Outside of JimmyJraynor it is sarcasm. JJ called him "one of the most important free agents this offseason" People dared to question or disagree and it became like 10 pages of JJ falling deeper in love with him. Because of how insane it was the rest of us use it as a joke when others write stuff we consider insane or just to be funny.
But yeah most of us realize that as this point in his career RJ is lucky to have a job and found the right fit for himself with the cavs as a cheap piece off the bench after being cut by various teams before that.
Jokes on you, RJ's cheeky footwork tripped up and stifled Kevin Durant on the most important possession of the season so far.
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Giannis! The bucks are building to something this year. I reckon they make top 4 (maybe even third seed) in east by season's end.
And if Middleton does make it back this year, they could be a real handful.
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Middleton was amazing last year
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On January 04 2017 23:27 TropicalHaze wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2017 12:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:i wonder if Andrew Wiggins can play as well as Richard Jefferson did during the peak of his career Richard Jefferson is strong 4 or light 5 on my scale. Comparing his peak during Nets years ('05-'08 respectively) and Wiggins in today Wolves is basically really lazy basketball analysis.
I think Richard Jefferson was an above average starter during the peak of his career. this reality is also reflected in his contracts.
On January 05 2017 12:21 RowdierBob wrote:
Giannis! The bucks are building to something this year. I reckon they make top 4 (maybe even third seed) in east by season's end.
And if Middleton does make it back this year, they could be a real handful.
i'd like to see Atlanta keep their team together. in their wins over Cleveland and Toronto they looked awesome.
Toronto embarrassed Atlanta with a 35+ point lead early in the year. I would've preferred to see Howard knock out a couple of a 3rd stringer's teeth during that game. Atlanta came back 2 weeks later and beat Toronto. If Atlanta could ever play with the kind of focus they had in the game they beat Toronto....
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well .. there are lots of #s to go over and his usage in the playoffs during his peak years. i'm all for a lengthy debate about Richard Jefferson from age 25 to 30. we can go through the 100 or so starting small forwards during those years and compare. the guy was an above average starter.
of course to make this a worthy debate you must form a position.
no ninja editing .. i'm forming my thoughts.
On January 06 2017 01:32 JimmiC wrote:
Lowry projections? Was this where you claimed that is his shot was off cause it was missing side to side and not long or short? This is utter bullshit even you have to know that. People didn't respond because it was even more idiotic then your made up 1-10 scale. Or was it your projection that his shot would come back? That's a projection like the sun will come up tomorrow. Of course he was going to head back to his career averages.
my Lowry projections and the turning point in his season was nailed dead on by me without boxscore evidence. in fact, the boxscore evidence was contrary to my projection of this turning point. you half read my stuff and then misquote me.
i don't think any one in this thread watches the Raptors even half as closely as i do so its no surprise that no one else was able to pick up on this turning point in Lowry's season.
On January 06 2017 01:32 JimmiC wrote:
I like how in his new post he talks about the RJ contracts as proof. But some how his current contract is not proof to how he is a bit player. Go figure.
we can explore this issue more fully if you like but its material we've discussed in the past. Rather than a single line quick comment here is a more comprehensive explanation
warning : boring past discussion
+ Show Spoiler +players often get paid less than they are worth near the tail end of their careers. he is not as good as he was 10 years ago which is why he is paid less. the playoff minutes and the 5th most minutes in the playoffs granted by Lue indicate his quality as a player and a defender. Last year RJ got a 1 year minimum deal and barely caught on. he proved his worth to the players and coaching staff and was granted a 2 year deal and a raise. the guy is a valuable bench player and proved it in last year's playoffs by going 44 for 84. he defense throughout the playoffs and shooting efficiency proved his was a good bench player for the Cavs.
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On January 06 2017 01:32 JimmiC wrote:
You saying the cavs value delly more then RJ because RJ still with them and Delly is with bucks? Well there is the fact that delly got 34 million more then RJ almost 10x more. Pretty sure if delly had said I'll take a two year slightly above veterans minimum Cavs would jumped at it.
its tough to directly compare the 2 because they play different positions and are at different stages of their careers. we've gone over this material in the past.
addendum + Show Spoiler +my projection was correct. your projection was incorrect. just leave it at that
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there is 1 projection in your post above. it was his contract with Cleveland. you stated he'd be "lucky to catch on". He was signed right after the 1 week moratorium was lifted because the deal was made during the moratorium. it was a preplanned move by Cleveland and RJs agents. your projection was incorrect. my projection was correct. end of story.
other than this projection and the "wade is leaving miami" projection i think all my projections are Raptor related. and the Wiggins thing.. ya.. let's talk in 5 years.
for people wondering why Lowry gets hurt every year... here's why.
https://thecauldron.si.com/when-it-comes-to-kyle-lowry-dont-knock-the-hustle-985e4ec46bf7#.jrfxg0aun
basically, the stats that back up what i've been saying about Lowry for a while.
"Lowry also happens to be the only player in the league to place in the top 11 in all three of those stats. His tenacity and willingness to sacrifice his body is, quite literally, unmatched."
there is a probability of 0.1 that Lowry goes the rest of the season and playoffs without getting hurt. all that loose ball scrambling and deflections are hard on the hands. Guess how Lowry damaged his right bursa last year?
What Lowry should do is save his "hustle plays" for the playoffs and dial it down a notch like most other NBA players do in the regular season.
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Can you two please stop shitting up this thread? Take it to PMs if it's so important to be right.
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Oh shit, Korver's being traded to the Cavs. Great pick up.
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