James Harden is only top 3.14159% in "size and athleticism" though. Wiggins is top 1%. When Harden wears shoes with bigger insoles he gains 3mm in height and becomes top 2.7182818% in the NBA in "size and athleticism". I think he had the bigger insoles on for the Toronto game to keep his feet warm.

Looks like the Hawks are going to start fining Dunleavy if he does not show up. According to league rules he has 72 hours to report. Hawks won't rescind the trade.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

January 09 2017 19:44 GMT

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JimmyJRaynor

Canada17004 Posts

January 09 2017 19:50 GMT

#505

you'll need a tighter definition of what "athleticism" is to come up with this "size and athleticism" quotient or barometer or whatever u want to call it... to get down to the granularity of single percentage points. there is only 400-something NBA-ers. so each single percentage point is like 4.5 players. how much athleticism does it take to make up for 1 inch loss in "size" or for 5 lbs lost in "size". and what exactly IS athleticism? explosive 1st step? running speed? acceleration? endurance in the 4th quarter? a combination of all those things? if so how are they weighted?

just saying he is top 1% size and athleticism is just a way to white-wash over Wiggins flaws as a player.

any how, onto something more interesting...

some pretty good insight on reddit about the Raptors flaws. Derozan is actually way better than he was 5 years ago when it comes to passing out of double teams and traps. I think fans expect him to be as good a play maker as Lowry and Joseph.. which just ain't happening. Also in DDs defense its a lot easier to be a play maker 30 feet from the basket with action only in front of you than it is 18 feet from basket with action happening on all sides of you.

"1)JV IS OPEN SO MANY TIMES, there were so many instances where JV was wide open and in position but no one passed to him. I was wondering why he only had 4PTS at half time or so
2) Demar seemed to have a hard time at recognizing when the double team is coming and when he passed it was too late and led to a few turnovers"

at the end of the playoff series where JV was most important and Kyle couldn't put a ball in the ocean ( cant recall if it was the 1st or 2nd round) Lowry looked straight into the camera and said "we've got to start running more plays for JV".

what happened Kyle?

Jefferson v. Ross ( which no one cares about)
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Ross is a career 36% shooter in the playoffs while Jefferson is a career 47.5% shooter. Jefferson's defense is way better. Both the Raptors and Cavaliers have 0% chance of missing the playoffs so the playoffs are all that matters.

either spoiler tag ur replies or PM me. because this "discussion" is a waste of space.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

January 09 2017 20:36 GMT

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JimmyJRaynor

Canada17004 Posts

January 09 2017 23:40 GMT

#507

Hey, a happy ending after all! Dunleavy to report.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18438643/mike-dunleavy-decides-report-atlanta-hawks

RJ v. Ross
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last year's playoff #s have already been discussed RJ went 44 for 84 and Ross went 46 for 119.
its not close. RJ >> Ross in last years playoffs in every aspect of the game. RJ played great defense in the finals.
Ross has never come close to shooting 50% in any playoff year.
Ross will definitely be better than RJ after RJ retires though.
nice trolling by you though.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

January 10 2017 00:18 GMT

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JimmyJRaynor

Canada17004 Posts

January 10 2017 01:43 GMT

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ZZzzz....
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RJ also had twice as many rebounds in the playoffs with only 20% more playing time. RJ is a way better defender. Ross is in the prime of his career and he can't even get a start on an above average team in a lousy division. the Cavs don't care about the regular season which is why they only won 57 games last year.
because the raptors had those two 7 game series they played 20 games whereas the Cavs played 21 games.

back to reality. Justin Anderson with the clothesline... i'm surprised he didn't get ejected

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

January 10 2017 01:53 GMT

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JimmyJRaynor

Canada17004 Posts

January 10 2017 02:54 GMT

#511

dallas in the bonus with 9.5 minutes left in the game. no one can blow a lead like Minnie.

i can see why Wiggins has detractors. He just stood around motionless on offense. When a player is a potted plant on offense you'd expect some aggressiveness on defense. Nope, not of that from Wiggins. He stood around on defense as well. I'm not even sure he was even sweating in the 4th quarter. Wiggins linescore matches his night. no assists, no blocks, no steals, 3 TOs, 3 ORBs...

no wonder the guy never gets hurt.

ummm, Derrick Rose is missing? ouch.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18440024/new-york-knicks-derrick-rose-undisclosed-reason-sources-say-guard-unreachable-game

Anthony and O'Quinn got ejected in the game tonight; you have to wonder if Hornacek and Rose had a giant argument and the players are pissed about it. is the team imploding? or is it a family crisis for Rose.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

January 12 2017 03:25 GMT

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karazax

United States3737 Posts

January 12 2017 05:20 GMT

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Twolves played well and it was a bad game for Rockets. To be fair Rockets were also without their second best player in Gordon and Capela is still out. Playing in a back to back on the road, too many players had off nights to win.

MassHysteria

United States3678 Posts

January 12 2017 05:43 GMT

#514

On January 12 2017 14:20 karazax wrote:
Twolves played well and it was a bad game for Rockets. To be fair Rockets were also without their second best player in Gordon and Capela is still out. Playing in a back to back on the road, too many players had off nights to win.

Shocker.

JimmyJRaynor

Canada17004 Posts

January 12 2017 06:35 GMT

#515

I guess Wiggins was coasting against Dallas.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

January 12 2017 08:14 GMT

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JimmyJRaynor

Canada17004 Posts

January 12 2017 13:57 GMT

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i watched 90% of the Dallas game. my observations stand. he stood around all game. that's how u get 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 blocks etc. did you watch the game? i watched 1/2 the Houston game. did you watch the game or are you just copying and pasting linescores?

if Wiggins were a DH in the American League maybe regurgitating offense linescore stats would provide a comprehensive description of his contribution. He is not though. He is a basketball player. There is an entire other side to the game.

His defense in both games was pedestrian and his intensity was low. If he can become an effective defender playing at this "pace" of the last 2 games i've seen it'll be awesome because he'll rarely get hurt playing like this. Its little wonder he has only missed 1 out of 200+ pro games.

Wiggins doesn't play DH for the Timberwolves so telling me his OBPS won't cut it. And copying and posting his point totals only tells a fraction of the story.

Right now, Wiggins is a below average basketball player playing on a below average basketball team. As I've stated earlier, I suspect in 5 years he'll grow into an above average player and occasional all star. He'll never be a guy who year-in and year-out is part of the debate of who the best basketball player in the world is.