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parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
December 15 2016 21:33 GMT
#301
is it just me or is GSW better last year compared to this year (with Durant)?

I know it sounds crazy but think about it, they lost Barnes and their bench. With Durant, sure they added more firepower to their offense but they were already a great shooting, great passing, great scoring team. The loss of a defensive anchor hurts them more imo, and their role players.

Don't get me wrong GSW is still great as ever.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 15 2016 21:40 GMT
#302
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 15 2016 23:10 GMT
#303
2016 isnt done yet. had to take craig sager away. rip
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 16 2016 02:17 GMT
#304
New CBA fixes nothing for the fans, the extra week won't stop resting, only all the major media people massively shifting their mentality will (herp derp Warriors with 30MPG max played too hard). The super max contact % of cap hasn't gone up nearly enough to actually differentiate between Lebron and CP3 vs. Melo and Conley, so player dictated super teams will continue to be in vogue. No change to the 1 year cooker time, draft unchanged, complex trade rules seem unchanged, midlevel exception appears to still exist, etc.
Freeeeeeedom
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 16 2016 04:59 GMT
#305
RIP Craig Sager. A sideline reporter who can get Gregg Popovich to smile is one of a kind.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-16 19:17:53
December 16 2016 19:10 GMT
#306
On December 16 2016 11:17 cLutZ wrote:
New CBA fixes nothing for the fans, the extra week won't stop resting, only all the major media people massively shifting their mentality will (herp derp Warriors with 30MPG max played too hard). The super max contact % of cap hasn't gone up nearly enough to actually differentiate between Lebron and CP3 vs. Melo and Conley, so player dictated super teams will continue to be in vogue. No change to the 1 year cooker time, draft unchanged, complex trade rules seem unchanged, midlevel exception appears to still exist, etc.

in your view which teams have been "player dictated super teams" over the last ~7 years?
the Miami "super team" won 2 titles in 4 years and 1 of them required an almost miracle level comeback in game 6.

the season goes from 25 weeks to 26 weeks long. so it'll help. i recall Kobe being adamant about playing a full 36 minutes in Toronto and putting on a good show because we only got to see him once a year. Some players do have a conscious (or are supremely vain. ) it still won't go away. there will still be resting. the NBA/NBPA did what little they could do to alleviate the problem.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 17 2016 01:16 GMT
#307
No excitement tonight? ESPN has Lakers vs Sixers on national tv...
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 17 2016 01:18 GMT
#308
On December 17 2016 04:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2016 11:17 cLutZ wrote:
New CBA fixes nothing for the fans, the extra week won't stop resting, only all the major media people massively shifting their mentality will (herp derp Warriors with 30MPG max played too hard). The super max contact % of cap hasn't gone up nearly enough to actually differentiate between Lebron and CP3 vs. Melo and Conley, so player dictated super teams will continue to be in vogue. No change to the 1 year cooker time, draft unchanged, complex trade rules seem unchanged, midlevel exception appears to still exist, etc.

in your view which teams have been "player dictated super teams" over the last ~7 years?
the Miami "super team" won 2 titles in 4 years and 1 of them required an almost miracle level comeback in game 6.

the season goes from 25 weeks to 26 weeks long. so it'll help. i recall Kobe being adamant about playing a full 36 minutes in Toronto and putting on a good show because we only got to see him once a year. Some players do have a conscious (or are supremely vain. ) it still won't go away. there will still be resting. the NBA/NBPA did what little they could do to alleviate the problem.


My point is with super teams is not that they win, its that they make the league worse. The Heat took talent that could have contributed to 3 fun teams, instead the East has had 1. West just went from 3 to 2 ( 4 to 3 if you dumbly like the Clippers).
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-17 02:08:59
December 17 2016 01:35 GMT
#309
On December 04 2016 11:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the Raptors with a 40 point lead have the entire Mississauga team on the floor playing like its a tie game in the 7th game of the NBA final.

This is what you get when you embarrass your opponent by 40 points and play as hard as Toronto did at the end of the game with a 40 point lead. Atlanta has come to Toronto to play some ball tonight. Every Hawk looks 100% locked in. Howard has been fucking awesome.

On December 17 2016 10:18 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2016 04:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On December 16 2016 11:17 cLutZ wrote:
New CBA fixes nothing for the fans, the extra week won't stop resting, only all the major media people massively shifting their mentality will (herp derp Warriors with 30MPG max played too hard). The super max contact % of cap hasn't gone up nearly enough to actually differentiate between Lebron and CP3 vs. Melo and Conley, so player dictated super teams will continue to be in vogue. No change to the 1 year cooker time, draft unchanged, complex trade rules seem unchanged, midlevel exception appears to still exist, etc.

in your view which teams have been "player dictated super teams" over the last ~7 years?
the Miami "super team" won 2 titles in 4 years and 1 of them required an almost miracle level comeback in game 6.

the season goes from 25 weeks to 26 weeks long. so it'll help. i recall Kobe being adamant about playing a full 36 minutes in Toronto and putting on a good show because we only got to see him once a year. Some players do have a conscious (or are supremely vain. ) it still won't go away. there will still be resting. the NBA/NBPA did what little they could do to alleviate the problem.


My point is with super teams is not that they win, its that they make the league worse. The Heat took talent that could have contributed to 3 fun teams, instead the East has had 1. West just went from 3 to 2 ( 4 to 3 if you dumbly like the Clippers).

parity bores me. i like the balance the NBA has struck between team's rights to retain players and players having free agent rights. i'm liking the league the last 10 years. its been fun to watch. do u have a proposed rule change to stop Durant going to GSW?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 17 2016 02:14 GMT
#310
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 17 2016 03:38 GMT
#311
Well, if a player resigns for $150 million dollars and an extra year and gets injured, you know some fans are going to be whining that the contract should be renegotiated. There are two sides to every contract.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-17 03:46:03
December 17 2016 03:45 GMT
#312
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 17 2016 04:24 GMT
#313
Personally, I'm hoping it doesn't work. The more you incentivize players to stick with the team that drafts them, the more you incentivize teams to tank multiple years to get those players in the draft.

The Warriors were built on the same plan as the Hawks, Jazz and maybe even the current Celtics. Build a good team using middle lottery picks and below and then hope to land a superstar. None of these teams were so terrible for so long that they were able to stock so many high draft picks. The plan was to build a perennial playoff team that is a superstar away from contention then use that to entice a superstar to join. It just so happened that the Warriors won one without said superstar free agent.

The Thunder and Cavs were built on Sam Hinkie level tank jobs to get multiple high draft picks.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-17 20:22:44
December 17 2016 20:12 GMT
#314
i kinda like that internal player development is becoming more important. its nothing like baseball , but it'd be really cool if it got to the point where every NBA team had 3+ minor league affiliates; i'd love to see the NCAA have the same limited stature in basketball that it does in baseball.

it was cool watching the zero resources Tampa Bay Rays compete against the unlimited resources NY Yankees during the Friedman era. It'd be cool to see something like that in basketball.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 17 2016 23:05 GMT
#315
The NBA is too talent - heavy for player development to ever work like that. The D-league, at best, gives us a few bench players a season.
Freeeeeeedom
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
December 18 2016 08:30 GMT
#316
What in the world was that T-Wolves vs Rockets shit.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 18 2016 10:04 GMT
#317
Wasn't there a plan back then to make the draft basically a round-robin instead of some kind of lottery? Each team gets a year at the top 10 or something.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 18 2016 17:57 GMT
#318
It got nixed, led by the Thunder. The Thunder has one of the worst ownership in the league.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 18 2016 20:24 GMT
#319
On December 19 2016 02:57 andrewlt wrote:
It got nixed, led by the Thunder. The Thunder has one of the worst ownership in the league.

Its not even a good idea. If you do that it defeats the purpose of a draft. If you want to prevent tanking, just switch to an incoming free agent system
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 18 2016 22:02 GMT
#320
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