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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 07:58:08
December 09 2016 06:13 GMT
#261
On December 09 2016 14:30 Disregard wrote:
Why can't Minnesota finish games... Sigh


its hard to keep the game an all-out, run-and-gun track meet for 48 minutes.

when the game eventually slows down to 5-on-5 with set offense and defense Minnesota players don't have the experience to know how to react. in terms of pure athletic talent they are close to Toronto and maybe even more talented. Joseph, Lowry, and Derozan are not any more athletically gifted than Minnie's best guys but they made better decisions in the 5-on-5 set game. Its hard to make a game an all out track meet for 48 minutes. While it was an all-out end-to-end "track meet" Minnesota was outplaying Toronto. any how.. that's my theory as to why Minnie seemed to fade as the game wore on tonight.

Also, isn't the Minnesota coach one of these guys who loves slow plodding basketball and yet the team operates best when its a minimal amount of 5-on-5 set play?

and for other readers please note this message is in the indicative mood.

On December 08 2016 19:12 RowdierBob wrote:
I fear Chris Paul is not the best player in the NBA.

Chris Paul's shoulder has been fucked since November 16th
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10568 Posts
December 10 2016 06:38 GMT
#262
Harden and Westbrook are both putting up ridiculous numbers this season but also worth noting their high number of touches has put them both on pace to shatter the NBA record for turnovers in a season (a record set by Harden last year).
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 10 2016 06:46 GMT
#263
On December 10 2016 15:38 BlackJack wrote:
Harden and Westbrook are both putting up ridiculous numbers this season but also worth noting their high number of touches has put them both on pace to shatter the NBA record for turnovers in a season (a record set by Harden last year).


I know Westbrook is compensating for no KD this year, but this game felt like was one of the prime examples KD left. Why Westbrook continues to chuck contested 3's is still beyond me.
Forever Young
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
December 10 2016 09:02 GMT
#264
On December 10 2016 15:46 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 15:38 BlackJack wrote:
Harden and Westbrook are both putting up ridiculous numbers this season but also worth noting their high number of touches has put them both on pace to shatter the NBA record for turnovers in a season (a record set by Harden last year).


I know Westbrook is compensating for no KD this year, but this game felt like was one of the prime examples KD left. Why Westbrook continues to chuck contested 3's is still beyond me.


same reason as kobe, they both think that them taking a contested 3 has a better chance of going in than any one of the 4 other players shooting
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10568 Posts
December 10 2016 13:45 GMT
#265
Interesting fact I heard from Mark Cuban on Shark Tank... Mavericks haven't had a losing season since he bought the team in 2000. Only other team with a streak that long is the Spurs, who haven't had a losing season since they drafted Timmy in '97.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 16:29:00
December 10 2016 15:18 GMT
#266
Olynyk should be on the Vancouver Canucks.. he is a dirty hockey player. I wish Biyombo were still on the team.

On December 09 2016 12:07 JimmiC wrote:
If you had any credibility some of what you said might be true, but due to your posting history you don't. I have watched many Cleveland games this year and in the past. I mean 6 whole games? And you, YOU, think he was floating too much in some games, I mean you do bring up the great point of you think it so I guess its a fact.

Edit" I know stats "don't matter" but DWS and DPM Thompson is top 30 in the league.

the aggression is absurd given that you half read my posts.

On December 09 2016 12:07 JimmiC wrote:
I mean 6 whole games? And you, YOU, think he was floating too much in some games, I mean you do bring up the great point of you think it so I guess its a fact.

for the 3rd time: i never claimed he was "floating too much". you are half reading my stuff again. i'll repeat this again: i am not in the huddle. i don't know what sets are being called. my comment is, was, and continues to be this: when the Cavs defense is weak TT is seen wandering all over the floor. This may or may not be part of some kind of defensive scheme the team is calling for. So now you've read that for the 3rd time. When Thompson is wandering all over the floor ( which might be by the coach's request ...did u read that?) he reminds me of my favourite centre now playing in the Upper Boldovia Elite League. For all i know TT is doing zero floating and is merely executing a team defensive plan.
On December 09 2016 12:07 JimmiC wrote:
I mean 6 whole games?

the TT discussion arose from whether or not LBJ is coasting this year. They've played 20 games this year at the time of my comment. I've watched 6 full games and about 1/3rd of all Cavs playing time. If someone has watched a substantial amount of Cleveland's playing minutes this year i'd be interested to hear their theories and ideas about Thompson wandering all over the floor.
On December 09 2016 12:07 JimmiC wrote:
Edit" I know stats "don't matter" but DWS and DPM Thompson is top 30 in the league.

I've never said stats don't matter. i did say personal observation plus stats are a far more effective way of judging a team. Any one can google stats and regurgitate them on here.
On December 09 2016 12:07 JimmiC wrote:
If you had any credibility some of what you said might be true, but due to your posting history you don't.

you continually half read my stuff. if you think my posting history is a problem take it to website feedback.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 10 2016 16:34 GMT
#267
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 17:07:42
December 10 2016 16:56 GMT
#268
On December 11 2016 01:34 JimmiC wrote:
Your stuff comes with gems like "The T-wolves might be as athletically gifted as even the Raptors."

you claim i made this statement : "The T-wolves might be as athletically gifted as even the Raptors."

you are misquoting me. these are my exact quotes:
"in terms of pure athletic talent they are close to Toronto and maybe even more talented."
"While it was an all-out end-to-end `track meet` Minnesota was outplaying Toronto."

i have not watched enough Minnesota to firmly conclude whether or not they are more athletically gifted than Toronto. which is why i say "maybe" in my post. i require more observation time than 48 minutes of game time. they appeared more athletically gifted against Toronto in this one game as my post reflects.

Had Powell and Siakam played more Toronto would've been trying to challenge Minnesota on the level of pure athleticism and we would've seen a truer test. Toronto chose to slow the game down and leaned on far less athletic players. So with just 1 game and Powell and Siakam playing a combined 17 minutes i'm not going to make any firm conclusions. if you want to add more info to what i've posted about Minnesota there is no need to turn it into a confrontation.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 10 2016 20:01 GMT
#269
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 10 2016 20:09 GMT
#270
On December 11 2016 05:01 JimmiC wrote:
I think the fact that Min has 3 of the most Athletically gifted players in the league answers that question, but man if you wanna do more research you go right ahead.

But are they as gifted as our overlords the Raptors?
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 10 2016 20:19 GMT
#271
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 10 2016 21:25 GMT
#272
On December 11 2016 05:19 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 05:09 cLutZ wrote:
On December 11 2016 05:01 JimmiC wrote:
I think the fact that Min has 3 of the most Athletically gifted players in the league answers that question, but man if you wanna do more research you go right ahead.

But are they as gifted as our overlords the Raptors?


Good question. And do we have enough research to suggest that they can't shoot from outside as well the warriors. And are there shots missing long, short or side to side because apparently that also matters.

They miss to the left a lot, but we need more research to be sure if that is just the rotation of the earth.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#273
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 11 2016 01:55 GMT
#274
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Every week I try to highlight an interesting read or graphic or video that I find...

12/11/2016:
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source
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 05:42:00
December 11 2016 05:41 GMT
#275
Every year, are Grizzlies literally just 1 offensive Allstar from making deep playoff runs?

edit: That ZBo gif is so adorable.
Forever Young
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19349 Posts
December 11 2016 08:33 GMT
#276
20/20 from the point god, 0 turnovers
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 09:05:11
December 11 2016 09:04 GMT
#277
"Ball don't lie" - Lebron

Sheed be tearing shit up cuz Bron didn't fined $5000 for saying that.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 02:48:39
December 12 2016 01:34 GMT
#278
i'm impressed westbrook kept his mouth shut in what has got to be a very frustrating game. that was a pretty bad non-call. The more i watch Boston the more i think they're a dirty team.

in my post i discussed the athleticism of both teams in their entirety; not just 3 players. Speaking of 3 players ...caboclo , siakam, and powell are the most athletically gifted Raptors. They saw a combinted 17 minutes of playing time against Minnie. For any continued, productive, detailed discussion about evaluating a team's athleticism a definition is required. Without a clear definition detailed, productive discussion can not occur.

i highly suspect the discussion about a team's athleticism will end here though because i suspect productive discussion is not the goal of the other poster.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
December 12 2016 09:23 GMT
#279
Are T-Wolves the best team in the NBA for the first 3 quarters or some shit?
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 12 2016 16:23 GMT
#280
On December 12 2016 18:23 Djagulingu wrote:
Are T-Wolves the best team in the NBA for the first 3 quarters or some shit?

One of the best in the first half and one of the worst in the second half last I saw a couple of weeks ago.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
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