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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 12 2016 17:16 GMT
#281
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 12 2016 21:01 GMT
#282
Trade Wiggins. Build around Towns/Rubio/Lavine.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 12 2016 21:32 GMT
#283
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
December 12 2016 21:48 GMT
#284
On December 13 2016 06:32 JimmiC wrote:
I wouldn't think trading there second best player would be a good move. I think keeping the 3 hyper athletic stars in lavine towns and wiggins would be key. Then fill around them with shooters to space the floor. Also, not rush and try to fix it, they are young let them grow. But with any "trade this guy" thing I guess it always matters what you get back.


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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 12 2016 23:24 GMT
#285
The Wolves had late leads against the Warriors, Spurs and Raptors before eventually losing. It may be nice to close out those teams next year, but they've also lost a lot of games to middling and crappy opponents.

They remind me of those Chicago Thibs teams that would beat Lebron's team every year but end up with mediocre records. You don't get extra wins for beating the good teams in the regular season.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-13 04:09:26
December 13 2016 03:34 GMT
#286
depends what you mean.by "late" the Raptors took the lead with 8.5 minutes left and had a 10+ point lead for the last 5 minutes. Minnesota needs a bench... Of course isn't the coach the president of basketball operations.. so the coach has no one to blame.

i wonder if the bench hardly played in the other games you brought up.

amazing display of athleticism here.. the steal.. cuts thru 2 players.. breaks away all alone.. and ..
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Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
December 14 2016 00:33 GMT
#287
now that JR Smith's knee is healed properly his shooting is back. Liggins did a nice job when Smith was injured. Memphis is in tough tonight.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 14 2016 03:52 GMT
#288
minny's shit defense reflects on towns current defensive ability as well as levine/wiggins. they dont have an ibaka to cover up pnrs
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
December 14 2016 15:19 GMT
#289
On December 14 2016 12:52 oneofthem wrote:
minny's shit defense reflects on towns current defensive ability as well as levine/wiggins. they dont have an ibaka to cover up pnrs

Gorgui Dieng, the Poor Man's Ibaka, doesn't cut it I guess.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 14 2016 18:49 GMT
#290
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 14 2016 19:34 GMT
#291
thibs apparently wants front court help. hoping he takes noah for free.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
December 15 2016 00:34 GMT
#292
new labour deal imminent... .YA!
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18280618/nba-players-union-verge-new-labor-deal-sources-say

like any NBA exec thibodeau will rarely be completely honest about what his top priorities are regarding player acquisitions. so what he says you can take with a grain of salt.

Minnesota needs are:

1. a ball distributor who is at least somewhat of a scoring threat

Rubio just ain't that good. its time for Minnesota to admit that drafting Rubio 5th in the 2009 draft was a mistake. Teams/Orgs have trouble admitting they drafted wrong and let guys like Rubio hang around far too long. I'm sure Rubio is a great human being and a solid citizen. That makes it all that much harder to lower his minutes. Its time to make Rubio their back up PG or have him leave the team entirely. As a back up PG Rubio is at least average.

b) A wholly owned D-League Affiliate

If they plan on moving up the standings they won't be drafting from the top and they'll need a place to develop the high ceiling raw players you find lower in the 1st round. Unless they plan on drafting low ceiling ready-made players which is prolly a bad idea.

iii.) a bench. playing several starters 40 minutes a game all year long is a bad idea. Putting Rubio on the bench helps this.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 00:43:16
December 15 2016 00:41 GMT
#293
Wiggins needs to stop hogging the ball after the 1st half and Rubio can't score for shit as usual. Dude is worse than Rondo. And the bench, Shabazz is hit or miss this season, beyond that there is no talent.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 05:10:22
December 15 2016 05:09 GMT
#294


even brooklyn's bench almost got up
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
December 15 2016 09:35 GMT
#295
On December 15 2016 09:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
new labour deal imminent... .YA!
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18280618/nba-players-union-verge-new-labor-deal-sources-say

like any NBA exec thibodeau will rarely be completely honest about what his top priorities are regarding player acquisitions. so what he says you can take with a grain of salt.

Minnesota needs are:

1. a ball distributor who is at least somewhat of a scoring threat

Rubio just ain't that good. its time for Minnesota to admit that drafting Rubio 5th in the 2009 draft was a mistake. Teams/Orgs have trouble admitting they drafted wrong and let guys like Rubio hang around far too long. I'm sure Rubio is a great human being and a solid citizen. That makes it all that much harder to lower his minutes. Its time to make Rubio their back up PG or have him leave the team entirely. As a back up PG Rubio is at least average.

b) A wholly owned D-League Affiliate

If they plan on moving up the standings they won't be drafting from the top and they'll need a place to develop the high ceiling raw players you find lower in the 1st round. Unless they plan on drafting low ceiling ready-made players which is prolly a bad idea.

iii.) a bench. playing several starters 40 minutes a game all year long is a bad idea. Putting Rubio on the bench helps this.

If they have a DL Affiliate, they can have both 1 and 3. Adreian Payne, Tyus Jones and Kris Dunn all have that ceiling. Shabazz too. Those 4 guys just need one step up in their game, each.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 11:45:22
December 15 2016 11:43 GMT
#296
On December 15 2016 09:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
new labour deal imminent... .YA!
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18280618/nba-players-union-verge-new-labor-deal-sources-say

like any NBA exec thibodeau will rarely be completely honest about what his top priorities are regarding player acquisitions. so what he says you can take with a grain of salt.

Minnesota needs are:

1. a ball distributor who is at least somewhat of a scoring threat

Rubio just ain't that good. its time for Minnesota to admit that drafting Rubio 5th in the 2009 draft was a mistake. Teams/Orgs have trouble admitting they drafted wrong and let guys like Rubio hang around far too long. I'm sure Rubio is a great human being and a solid citizen. That makes it all that much harder to lower his minutes. Its time to make Rubio their back up PG or have him leave the team entirely. As a back up PG Rubio is at least average.

b) A wholly owned D-League Affiliate

If they plan on moving up the standings they won't be drafting from the top and they'll need a place to develop the high ceiling raw players you find lower in the 1st round. Unless they plan on drafting low ceiling ready-made players which is prolly a bad idea.

iii.) a bench. playing several starters 40 minutes a game all year long is a bad idea. Putting Rubio on the bench helps this.

generally true but you also can't assume thibs knows what he actually needs. i agree that rubio is really limiting but they do need a rim protecting guy too.

wiggins, not sure what his problem is between lack of effort and just lack of awareness. his inconsistency within season and even within games points to the former.

he can play good for a few quarters but really disappear too.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 15 2016 16:02 GMT
#297
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-15 16:17:02
December 15 2016 16:16 GMT
#298
the new 7 year CBA deal shortens the pre-season and starts the regular season 1 week earlier. This is a way to space out games more. Hopefully, that means fewer games where teams like Cleveland leave 3 of their starters at home while they play a road game. Last night's game against Memphis was pretty bad. its amazing how bad Liggins looks when LBJ is not on the floor.

i don't think resting healthy players can be regulated. Teams will just become better at making up excuses. They'll be "dying" distant relatives... guys will intentionally flunk strength tests to prove they are in "pain" etc. So I think the only way to deal with it is to space out the games more and hope teams opt for resting players less often.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 15 2016 16:35 GMT
#299
Wiggins is trying to be an iso player in a league that is trying to minimize those kind of shots. He is also not efficient enough at it.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 15 2016 19:46 GMT
#300
their offense being archaic is really bad for wiggins' development, but his big problem right now is the lack of defense and general impact beyond scoring.

i dont really care about rebounding but his assists is troublingly low
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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