EPTOn August 11 2016 00:38 Mafe wrote:
New Zealand about to go out at the groupstage in rugyb? Seriously?
New Zealand about to go out at the groupstage in rugyb? Seriously?
Apparently. So Japan-France :|
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
Apparently. So Japan-France :| | ||
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sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
On August 10 2016 12:43 LegalLord wrote: Japan has an impressive collection of bronze medals. I can only hope at least a third of them will be gold in four years... | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
Silver for dutchman Dumoulin, but he doesn't look happy. He broke his wrist in the Tour de France just a few weeks ago so I think it's an amazing result for him considering, but he looks heartbroken  | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On August 11 2016 00:53 sharkie wrote: I can only hope at least a third of them will be gold in four years... I don't know what you're complaining about ? Japan was trending down in Judo but they still managed to win a medal in 7 out of 8 categories so far. That's their total from Beijing and London. They are performing very well, while the other big nations of Judo (France and Korea) are not doing well at all. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On August 10 2016 23:51 Zealously wrote: You do sound a little bit salty in general regarding France's performance, though. Case in point: + Show Spoiler + On August 08 2016 15:29 Otolia wrote: Fuck you Phelps ! This is going to be the worst Olympics ever. But anyway, I don't know that Phelps' performance is any more suspicious than his previous performances in similar settings. How do you figure? France being good at swimming made London olympics unwatchable for me, they would always skip good sports to show swimmers. I've had enough of this for the rest of my life 4 years ago. It's a blessing they fail this year. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
On August 11 2016 01:03 Otolia wrote: I don't know what you're complaining about ? Japan was trending down in Judo but they still managed to win a medal in 7 out of 8 categories so far. That's their total from Beijing and London. They are performing very well, while the other big nations of Judo (France and Korea) are not doing well at all. For us Japanese anything less than Gold in Judo is not satisfying enough... | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
And very sad to miss this | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On August 11 2016 03:34 amazingxkcd wrote: IOA shooter is in Gold medal match for double trap shooting right now Oh fuck he won it against the Italian! | ||
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sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
Woooohooooo | ||
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VHbb
692 Posts
New Zealand is not out, they are still going to the quarter final since the US lost 24-19 vs Fiji This are the RO8: Fiji v New Zealand Japan v France Great Britain v Argentina South Africa v Australia | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On August 10 2016 23:51 Zealously wrote: But anyway, I don't know that Phelps' performance is any more suspicious than his previous performances in similar settings. How do you figure? yeah, and his previous performances also were super suspicious, lel. no way this dude is clean. e:are the players of the new zealand 7 player rugby team the same of the 15 man rugby team? | ||
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VHbb
692 Posts
The two disciplines are quite different: of course the main principles are common, but the way you play is really not similar. If you notice the scrum in the rugby 7 is done with 3 players only (vs the 8 in rugby 15) and it's much quicker. The field is the same (same dimensions) so you have to cover much more space with less than half players. Also one of the main principles of rugby15 is to *always* advance and gain territory (a part from very rare cases), while in rugby 7 it's not uncommon to see the players play the ball back to keep possession while looking for an opening (it's still not ideal I'd say).. p.s. the NZ teams are not the same, but NZ is always one of the favorites when talking about rugby  They just lost vs Fiji (12-7) and I think it's a pretty big disappointment | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 11 2016 05:15 Paljas wrote: yeah, and his previous performances also were super suspicious, lel. no way this dude is clean. See, the thing with Phelps is that if you assume he is doping, the most reasonable conclusion is that he has been doping since the very beginning of his career - pretty much since age 14. He broke his first world record when he was 15, more than 16 years ago. You can reasonably assume that he has been tested somewhere in the vicinity of half a thousand times since then. "No way this dude is clean" seems somewhat a strong statement with that in mind. Besides, the most extraordinary thing about his career to me is his meteoric rise, not the fact that he has maintained his top level for so long. He is one of the most (actually, probably the most, period) rigorously tested athletes in the sport, and has been for at least eight years. With Lance Armstrong in mind I know that doesn't necessarily mean that much, but it strikes me as unlikely that he would be doping at such a young age, and there hasn't really been any point in his career where his performances "spiked" beyond the initial catapult-esque ascent to #1. I know it's "in" to think everyone is doping, and sure - there are grounds for the assumption, but the guy has all the physical and environmental prerequisites for being the best swimmer ever. And given that other swimmers match him (or nearly so) in most races, it begs the question if you think no one is clean. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
On August 11 2016 05:26 Zealously wrote: See, the thing with Phelps is that if you assume he is doping, the most reasonable conclusion is that he has been doping since the very beginning of his career - pretty much since age 14. He broke his first world record when he was 15, more than 16 years ago. You can reasonably assume that he has been tested somewhere in the vicinity of half a thousand times since then. What gives? Besides, the most extraordinary thing about his career to me is his meteoric rise, not the fact that he has maintained his top level for so long. He is one of the most (actually, probably the most, period) rigorously tested athletes in the sport, and has been for at least eight years. With Lance Armstrong in mind I know that doesn't necessarily mean that much, but it strikes me as unlikely that he would be doping at such a young age, and there hasn't really been any point in his career where his performances "spiked" beyond the initial catapult-esque ascent to #1. I know it's "in" to think everyone is doping, and sure - there are grounds for the assumption, but the guy has all the physical and environmental prerequisites for being the best swimmer ever. And given that other swimmers match him (or nearly so) in most races, it begs the question if you think no one is clean. Well, no one is clean. But that's beside the point. I just find it funny that he thinks that Phelps is the only shady guy haha | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On August 11 2016 05:24 VHbb wrote: No the two teams (rugby 7 and 15) are separate. Sometimes there are players that cross from one to the other - the most famous is Sonny Bill Williams who played the Rugby World Cup last year - rugby 15 - and was playing in this Olympics until he got injured - but it's quite rare. The two disciplines are quite different: of course the main principles are common, but the way you play is really not similar. If you notice the scrum in the rugby 7 is done with 3 players only (vs the 8 in rugby 15) and it's much quicker. The field is the same (same dimensions) so you have to cover much more space with less than half players. Also one of the main principles of rugby15 is to *always* advance and gain territory (a part from very rare cases), while in rugby 7 it's not uncommon to see the players play the ball back to keep possession while looking for an opening (it's still not ideal I'd say).. p.s. the NZ teams are not the same, but NZ is always one of the favorites when talking about rugby They just lost vs Fiji (12-7) and I think it's a pretty big disappointment yeah, i only somewhat follow 15 rugby and didnt know how good new zealand truly is in 7 rugby. thought that maybe some wing players could play in both. thanks for the info. e: @ above: i think that the majority of top swimmers are not clean. its just rather tiresome to see how people gang up on china and russia in terms of doping and then pretend that the west is the pinnacle of fair sport | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
When Armstrong climbed Alpe D'huez 2004 with 6.97 power to weight it was like clear as a day. | ||
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VHbb
692 Posts
On August 11 2016 05:29 Paljas wrote: yeah, i only somewhat follow 15 rugby and didnt know how good new zealand truly is in 7 rugby. thought that maybe some wing players could play in both. thanks for the info. I think Fiji - New Zealand (the 4final that just ended) could have been a likely final At this point I'd say the favorites could be the Springboks or Fiji, but let's see Personally I'm cheering for Japan! | ||
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sharkie
Austria18746 Posts
On August 11 2016 05:29 Paljas wrote: yeah, i only somewhat follow 15 rugby and didnt know how good new zealand truly is in 7 rugby. thought that maybe some wing players could play in both. thanks for the info. e: @ above: i think that the majority of top swimmers are not clean. its just rather tiresome to see how people gang up on china and russia in terms of doping and then pretend that the west is the pinnacle of fair sport Yeah, double standard is the worst thing. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 11 2016 05:29 Paljas wrote: yeah, i only somewhat follow 15 rugby and didnt know how good new zealand truly is in 7 rugby. thought that maybe some wing players could play in both. thanks for the info. e: @ above: i think that the majority of top swimmers are not clean. its just rather tiresome to see how people gang up on china and russia in terms of doping and then pretend that the west is the pinnacle of fair sport Sure. It's equally or more twisted, though, when people gang up on athletes that have given no indication of doping because they feel there is an unfair bias against (Russia or China, in this case). Of course the reality isn't as one-sided as it's made out to be. Of course the western sport will be dirtier than it's made out to be. But it makes no sense to harp on Phelps, for example, when Efimova is allowed to compete - just as it makes no sense to talk about how Usain Bolt is obviously doped up when Justin Gatlin is allowed to participate. It's a cesspool, to be sure, but I think it's fair to stick to bashing (if one must bash) the proven dopers for the time being. | ||
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