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On January 28 2017 08:08 Shellshock wrote:
would it even free up cap space? i'm a novice when it comes to all of that but arent 1st round rookie contracts all guaranteed money?
Teddy Bridgewater signed a 4 year, $6,849,502 contract with the Minnesota Vikings, including a $3,301,456 signing bonus, $5,495,479 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,712,376. In 2016, Bridgewater will earn a base salary of $1,042,682. Bridgewater has a cap hit of $1,868,046 while his dead money value is $2,693,410.
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what a shitty thing to happen tho to a decent franchise. don't know if teddy was the solution but it seemed like pieces were starting to fall in place
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On January 28 2017 08:07 DannyJ wrote:
Jesus christ what the hell did Bridgewater do to his knee? It's crazy to think you could come back at all if an injury is so bad it almost takes 2 years to come back from.
When the news came out, it was described as a full knee explosion. Normally, the media would described whether it was a sprain, tear, twist or whatever to the ACL, MCL, PCL or whatnot. With him, they just said knee went KABOOM! So you know it was really bad.
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Pay him 10 million right now and cut him lose. He won't complain. Or they'll need to restructure his contract to take away some of that money.
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If the cap hit is only 2 mill why the hell would you cut him before seeing what he looks like when he gets back? They honestly don't save much money. Removing AP's salary is much bigger deal.
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Zero has no idea how cap space works. If they cut him his entire contract becomes a single year cap hit. The way it is now is a small year to year investment. I doubt he'll go Culpepper no matter how bad it is.
His injury was a knee explosion. The more descriptive way of saying it is that it dislocated on both ends real fucking up the knee meat.
AP needs to go 16 or 18 million for an over the hill injury prone child beater is too much.
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On January 28 2017 11:59 Sermokala wrote:
Zero has no idea how cap space works. If they cut him his entire contract becomes a single year cap hit. The way it is now is a small year to year investment. I doubt he'll go Culpepper no matter how bad it is.
His injury was a knee explosion. The more descriptive way of saying it is that it dislocated on both ends real fucking up the knee meat.
AP needs to go 16 or 18 million for an over the hill injury prone child beater is too much.
First of all, child rearing and how he chooses to go about it has no place in this thread.
Second of all, an exploded knee means a complete knee replacement, not some staples and 19 months of rehab. He's done. There is no point in keeping him.
Third of all, AP can still produce. He has one more year and he's gone after next year.
Fourth of all, this is the Vikings. They have Bradford and no one else to back him up really. Getting rid of Bridgewater will clear up enough money to do some moving around. They can trade another player or two and get a better draft in the second round.
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On January 29 2017 03:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2017 11:59 Sermokala wrote:
Zero has no idea how cap space works. If they cut him his entire contract becomes a single year cap hit. The way it is now is a small year to year investment. I doubt he'll go Culpepper no matter how bad it is.
His injury was a knee explosion. The more descriptive way of saying it is that it dislocated on both ends real fucking up the knee meat.
AP needs to go 16 or 18 million for an over the hill injury prone child beater is too much. First of all, child rearing and how he chooses to go about it has no place in this thread. Second of all, an exploded knee means a complete knee replacement, not some staples and 19 months of rehab. He's done. There is no point in keeping him. Third of all, AP can still produce. He has one more year and he's gone after next year. Fourth of all, this is the Vikings. They have Bradford and no one else to back him up really. Getting rid of Bridgewater will clear up enough money to do some moving around. They can trade another player or two and get a better draft in the second round.
The public opinion of how he rears children does belong because it factors into the teams decision on keeping AP. His injuries and age are much greater concern, especially when compared to his pay. Yes, you may get another year of good production but at the cost of several other good players.
Bridgewater may not be able to run like he did, but at qb there are plenty who can't run. You save a little more than $1mill with cutting Bridgewater while having like $800g in dead money. It may come down to it if they need that extra money to get something big done, but next year they are $20mill under the cap and if they cut AP it goes to $38mill
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+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On January 29 2017 04:02 giftdgecko wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2017 03:27 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On January 28 2017 11:59 Sermokala wrote:
Zero has no idea how cap space works. If they cut him his entire contract becomes a single year cap hit. The way it is now is a small year to year investment. I doubt he'll go Culpepper no matter how bad it is.
His injury was a knee explosion. The more descriptive way of saying it is that it dislocated on both ends real fucking up the knee meat.
AP needs to go 16 or 18 million for an over the hill injury prone child beater is too much. First of all, child rearing and how he chooses to go about it has no place in this thread. Second of all, an exploded knee means a complete knee replacement, not some staples and 19 months of rehab. He's done. There is no point in keeping him. Third of all, AP can still produce. He has one more year and he's gone after next year. Fourth of all, this is the Vikings. They have Bradford and no one else to back him up really. Getting rid of Bridgewater will clear up enough money to do some moving around. They can trade another player or two and get a better draft in the second round. The public opinion of how he rears children does belong because it factors into the teams decision on keeping AP. His injuries and age are much greater concern, especially when compared to his pay. Yes, you may get another year of good production but at the cost of several other good players. Bridgewater may not be able to run like he did, but at qb there are plenty who can't run. You save a little more than $1mill with cutting Bridgewater while having like $800g in dead money. It may come down to it if they need that extra money to get something big done, but next year they are $20mill under the cap and if they cut AP it goes to $38mill
If AP had the line he used to, this wouldn't be a conversation at all. He's doing what he can with what he has. He's still one of the best backs in the league.
What I'm getting at, is that Bridgewater is dead-weight down the line. He was recruited for his semi-dual threat. You take one away, he's average and not worth it over the long haul. He'll have one year left by the time he comes back. Cut him, now and then build upon this draft coming up.
Again, if every parent had to answer for how they raised their children, there would be less children. I was raised the same way AP is raising his kids and I turned out fine (after 16, my mistakes are mine). Different cultures have different ways of raising their children. It shouldn't be public or even a factor for the team. (Let's move away from this topic since I feel it will derail the thread and get us nowhere)
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can't they just keep him on IR to free up the roster spot and not get a bigger single year cap hit?
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On January 29 2017 04:25 Shellshock wrote:
can't they just keep him on IR to free up the roster spot and not get a bigger single year cap hit?
Well yes but I was hideing that from zero to see just how little he knew about cap. For a guy to say that 0 dollars will help bradford off but then advocate paying AP 18 million for no reason is just hilarious.
Let Houston pay the hometown hero 80 million for no reason and laugh. The team needs to spend huge on O line that had TJ clemmings as a starter for more then one play. Theres a ton of cap space and theres no reason to spend it on a guy who beats his children with a stick.
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On January 29 2017 04:56 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2017 04:25 Shellshock wrote:
can't they just keep him on IR to free up the roster spot and not get a bigger single year cap hit? Well yes but I was hideing that from zero to see just how little he knew about cap. For a guy to say that 0 dollars will help bradford off but then advocate paying AP 18 million for no reason is just hilarious. Let Houston pay the hometown hero 80 million for no reason and laugh. The team needs to spend huge on O line that had TJ clemmings as a starter for more then one play. Theres a ton of cap space and theres no reason to spend it on a guy who beats his children with a stick.
AP is looking to trade. He has at least 1 more year. Bradford needs a line or a better OC/OLC. There are other problems that need to be fixed and sacking AP is not the way to go about it. You need to look at the other teams and their needs, and then reasonably see what they can get. Looking into the future, AP and Bradford are gone in 1-2 years. Bridgewater is gone, period. What should the Vikes do looking to the future?
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On January 29 2017 05:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2017 04:56 Sermokala wrote:On January 29 2017 04:25 Shellshock wrote:
can't they just keep him on IR to free up the roster spot and not get a bigger single year cap hit? Well yes but I was hideing that from zero to see just how little he knew about cap. For a guy to say that 0 dollars will help bradford off but then advocate paying AP 18 million for no reason is just hilarious. Let Houston pay the hometown hero 80 million for no reason and laugh. The team needs to spend huge on O line that had TJ clemmings as a starter for more then one play. Theres a ton of cap space and theres no reason to spend it on a guy who beats his children with a stick. AP is looking to trade. He has at least 1 more year. Bradford needs a line or a better OC/OLC. There are other problems that need to be fixed and sacking AP is not the way to go about it. You need to look at the other teams and their needs, and then reasonably see what they can get. Looking into the future, AP and Bradford are gone in 1-2 years. Bridgewater is gone, period. What should the Vikes do looking to the future?
We don't know if bridgewater is done we have no idea how much time bradford has left and AP is a cap sink that doesn't provide anywhere near enough return to justify his salery. No one is going to trade for AP beacuse AP isn't going to take a trade where he makes half of what he makes now. Getting a better OC and OLC is going to be as hard as it is regardless of the cap situation. Everyone knows they need a better O line and without AP dragging on the cap they'll have a ton more cap to get better players in free agency.
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On January 29 2017 05:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2017 04:56 Sermokala wrote:On January 29 2017 04:25 Shellshock wrote:
can't they just keep him on IR to free up the roster spot and not get a bigger single year cap hit? Well yes but I was hideing that from zero to see just how little he knew about cap. For a guy to say that 0 dollars will help bradford off but then advocate paying AP 18 million for no reason is just hilarious. Let Houston pay the hometown hero 80 million for no reason and laugh. The team needs to spend huge on O line that had TJ clemmings as a starter for more then one play. Theres a ton of cap space and theres no reason to spend it on a guy who beats his children with a stick. AP is looking to trade. He has at least 1 more year. Bradford needs a line or a better OC/OLC. There are other problems that need to be fixed and sacking AP is not the way to go about it. You need to look at the other teams and their needs, and then reasonably see what they can get. Looking into the future, AP and Bradford are gone in 1-2 years. Bridgewater is gone, period. What should the Vikes do looking to the future?
Get rid of AP and spend that $18mill on a line that keeps their $14mill QB upright... Then you can find or draft a mid teir RB that at least has holes to run in. The two teams in the superbowl spent a combined $6 million on runningbacks this year. That's 7 players. 7. For 1/3 the cost of AP.
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The San Francisco 49ers are hiring Hall of Fame candidate John Lynch to be their new GM.
ESPN
Also:
The Indianapolis Colts have named Chris Ballard their new GM.
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What the fuck. Was Lynch even reportedly interviewed?
EDIT: This is from the ESPN article:
Lynch has no front-office experience but has been connected to front-office jobs in the past. Some in Denver thought he could have been a candidate to replace John Elway one day, though that day never materialized.
The idea to hire Lynch was his own. He personally called Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and volunteered for the job about a week ago.
Shanahan, considered the favorite to be named the Niners' next head coach, thought about Lynch, and the more he thought about it, the more he felt Lynch was a fit for the job. Lynch played for Shanahan's father, Mike, in Denver.
So Lynch decided that he wanted to be a GM, called Shanahan and offered to be Shanahan's front-office patsy, and the ever-increasingly desperate Jed York signed off on it and is apparently giving Lynch a six-year contract. Good lord. Lynch better surround himself with some damned good people. This is as about as big of a roll of the dice as the Niners could have made. And to say the least, I don't like the odds.
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On January 30 2017 11:31 JimmiC wrote:
Always a good move to hire a guy who has been a TV analyst to be your GM. Works every time! #mattmillen
Should have gone with Mel Kiper Jr!
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Trent Dilfer please.
Every year I do some stupid prop bet on the SB. Not sure what to do this year... Maybe how many times they show Giselle or if there will be a flea flicker.
Last year I think I won a bet on if Peyton would cry after they game if they won.
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United States97276 Posts
Kirk Cousins with a forced fumble in the pro bowl lol
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EPT
